Detroit Reg. Semi Final 2 - Gong v. Rush
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Topic: Detroit Reg. Semi Final 2 - Gong v. Rush
Posted By: micky
Subject: Detroit Reg. Semi Final 2 - Gong v. Rush
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 08:21
From Planet Gong... we have... Gong!  From planet Geek... we have.. Rush!! Vegas has Rush as a 10 vote favorite. Can Gong pull the upset. It is possible if the anti-Rush forces mobilize and the pro-Rush forces are distracted by the upcoming holiday. We shall see! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 08:23
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Rush once more!! ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 08:25
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Gong, first vote registered! ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 08:28
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Gongeg ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 08:30
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Getting my Gong vote in before all the Rush voters arrive. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 08:35
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Gong. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 08:43
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Commander Micky, head of the Gong army reporting for duty. Splitting time and duty with taking on the PFM-f**king Tull death match starting tomorow. Gong all the way!!! Though I do enjoy the hell out of some Rush. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:06
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I'll give it to Gong for You being such a good album. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:08
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Rush by a small but decisive margin ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:11
| RUSH in this time but I don't know about my vote in another time!!! |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:24
| Gong |
Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:50
| The tibetan tea company for me! |
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:58
| Gong for me. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 09:59
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Picking Rush over Gong was an easy choice for me. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 10:03
| The radio gnomes. |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 10:04
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Please, if there is any justice or sanity in the world it has to be Gong over Rush! |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 10:35
Is it legal to use Gong and sanity in the same sentence?  ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Flight123 wrote:Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 10:37
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GonG ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 10:39
Exactly  I went with Gong, quite easily to, but they're no match for Rush in the end. I'm merely speculating here, but I foresee at least a 10-15 gap between them in the end. One shouldn't underestimate the power of Rush on PA. Whenever you see a Gong fan you will have seen 10 of Rush'. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 10:48
| Rush is no doubt a great band with very impressive discography under its belt, but I do find Gong a lot more .. how should I put it - interesting? |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 11:06
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Another vote for Gong! ------------- 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 12:18
| Allen and Allan (Gong in different incarnations) |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 12:22
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That's actually Allen and Allan (same incarnation) and then Allan! |
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 12:32
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Like some of each, but no crazy over either one....coin toss....Rush ------------- 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 12:41
Erm... yes, I suppose you're right.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 13:24
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Come on. This is Detroit people!! If Rush doesn't start getting more votes the Canadians will start marching over the bridge. There is already a crowd beginning to mass in Windsor. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 13:35
I've got a mass of people gathered at the Buffalo border, we're all carrying our weapons of choice...hockey sticks. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 13:38
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I'm sure someone said that this poll was over...so GonG win.....move along.......nothing to see here..... ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 14:07
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Gong easily for me.
------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 14:17
Be careful of taking on 'Murica! I am giving more boost for take-off to planet Gong. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 14:25
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someone needs to dig up that great quote from the 1st round when Rush was in trouble haha it was the post of the tournament. Almost but not quite topped by the youtube clip of Homer digging ELP  Come on you geeks.. who taught you the real lessons of geek life... NEIL!! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 14:29
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Rush. ------------- 
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 14:40
Tell the Canadians their beer is nothing more than a pee!  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:01
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Gong are beating Rush? Blige. Time for a Rushed vote. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:04
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Gong. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:34
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I hope this doesnt turn out like the Le Orme poll. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 17:09
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This one is easy....I have 1 Gong album with little play time. -------------   
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 17:30
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Rush ------------- |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 17:38
It likely will. You've seen the mean age of the forumites here. Most haven't even likely had their first piece of ass yet or even been divorced yet Who do you think makes up the Rush army.. the Geddy is God.. or Peart is God kiddies ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 17:51
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GonG ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 18:15
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Been in a Rush mood the last couple of days, so Rush it is! -------------  
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 18:25
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I see the Rush fans have bagan to wake up.. Thought this was going to be too easy! However, if you have yet to vote then vote for the international influencial caterburyan psychadelical jazzy genii that make up the fantastical teapotflying tea supping Gong ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 18:33
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yeah man. Vote for Gong. If you haven't listened to them... vote for them. Trust us, they are far better than Rush. If you only have one album... order 2 more albums and call Doctor Micky in the morning ...after you have voted for Gong. If you are from Detroit...or from Canada.. you have my sympathies.. vote for Rush then ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 18:43
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 18:49
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oh yeah. Final bit of advice from Doctor Micky. If you are 18... stuck asking your Neil Peart poster over your bed why the hot blond won't give you the time of day .. even when decked out in your cool denim jacket with the 2112 patch on the back... do yourself a favor. Start right now on the road to getting hot chicks.. see that little button up there that says GONG.. hit it and vote for Gong... start dressing like a hippy and digging Gong albums and lose the Rush gear and especially the Neil Peart poster.. no self respecting chick is letting you take her with Neil Peart looking over you two. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 18:53
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Hare Hare Supermarket Hare Hare London Bus ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 18:56
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Going with Gong, although I'm not very keen on either band. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 19:00
Hare Hare Ladies Lavatory Hare Hare Hare...
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Posted By: progrockdeepcuts
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 19:39
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Loved Rush as a kid, but not as much as I used to. I'm going with Gong. ------------- Listen to older shows here: mixcloud.com/progrockdeepcuts/ |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 20:29
| Gong ... surprisingly. |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 20:46
But Rush are from Toronto; the only Canadians who like Toronto are people who live in Toronto. Canadians and the Bordurikans should vote for Gong...at least their songs don't get played on the radio all the f**king time! ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 20:52
| I am, you are, we are CRAZY !!! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 20:52
ahhh ..sorry Canadians..I stand corrected... you still have my sympathies.. for being lumped in as Rush fanatics out of some perverse patriotism.....show your independence then... VOTE GONG!!!! When I lived in Michigan.. at least we got off great and easy. We got a steady diet of Bob Segar and Ted Nugent. Seeming every other song I ever seem hear on the radio was from either of those two. God help you if you have Rush playing all the damn time ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 21:58
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I voted for Rush. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 22:36
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i AM CANADIAN BUT I GONGED ! I AM , YOU ARE, WE ARE CRAZY! ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 06:54
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What?!?!? Gong...in the lead? Holy sauce! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:09
some points to take from the tournament so far 1) ELP going a long way to re-establishing some respect and love on this forum 2) the Gong Army being a force to be reckoned with. Quite the fanbase 3) the Italians have quite a fanbase here, with only one disappointing result... SOON TO BE AVENGED  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:11
Yeah what happened to AREA ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:17
it was a little much to expect them to win against Gentle Giant (the only one that will knock them out will be a 'big heavy'... it was Osanna that didn't show well.. against a group that only did ONE thing better than Osanna. Speak better English and have a larger fanbase. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:31
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Ahhh you were thinking of Osanna Regarding your last comment: Some things never change. 'If you don't understand the lingo, ditch the music'. Such a shame... Although to be fair, we're quite a few on here who couldn't give a rat's rectum about the lingo ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:38
well we shall see how this best example of English paternalism of 2nd rate prog, whose best albums were done PRE-PROG.. does against the greatest and perhaps most respected of all 'foreign' prog groups. I expect a war, but hope to have a close match. ELP-Camel sort of reaffirmed my faith in the forum to judge fairly and loss the bullsh*t they've had tossed in their ears by critics and haters.. we shall see if 2nd rate English music will trump 1st rate non-English music. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:46
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I don't think we have as many anti-anything members as we used to have, although there still is a healthy population of folks who run screaming for the hills whenever DT gets mentioned, but just before their hike they take out the time to enlighten the rest of us on how awful the music is. That goes for ELP as well, but we can't change the world all at once. Like I said, it's not nearly as bad as it was a few years ago, and that pleases me immensely Still, a little poke here and a little stab there don't hurt anybody and adds a little hoho to what otherwise might turn into a librarians' convention. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:56
yes, along with some obvious changes in the general forum atmosphere here since the old wild-west days, I have most certainly seen that. Another reason why I thought ELP might well really give Camel a run for their money. The anti-factions are definitely not as strong as they once were here. oh and I do live for a little poking and stabbing.. it was easier back when the general forum knew me and my style well... I have had to be a bit more careful with all the new folks around perhaps not recognizing it isn't anything mean-spirited ...just all in fun. Nothing sucks more than a dull forum. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 08:30
Yes, I've noticed that the contingent of those who won't touch anything in a language other than English with the proverbial ten-foot pole seems to have dwindled to almost nothing. Like you, I am not a native speaker of English, and I teach my own native language for a living, therefore that attitude really got on my nerves big time. A few years ago I even wrote an essay for my blog, which you (or others) might be interested in reading - triggered by an extremely stupid remark found in a Prog mag review: http://progmistress.com/2011/07/27/speak-english-or-die-prog-in-other-languages/" rel="nofollow - http://progmistress.com/2011/07/27/speak-english-or-die-prog-in-other-languages/ |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 08:42
Wow, I certainly missed that essay, Raffa, but I liked the part (response box): "Brazilian friends are always welcome here."  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 08:45
Gong are winning!  Can't hardly believe it.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 08:48
I see Rush - Le Orme all over this one. Down to the wire me thinks this one is going.. which we need.. we haven't been blessed with enough really tight ones. The ones we had though.. have made it all worthwhile! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 12:20
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Gong ------------- "Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal" Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 13:10
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Gong of course. I even like their dull albums. ------------- 
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Posted By: qwiksand
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 13:21
| Gong by a mile! |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 14:07
Wouldn't even faze those polite people. Probably just say, "Well, more for me then eh." ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 14:26
If Gong wins, I lose a lot of respect for users on this site ------------- |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 14:38
The language of music is universal. AFAIC, the less chatter (in what ever tongue), the better What I would not touch even with a barge pole is English language lyrics that were written and/or sung by someone who did it for commercial purposes only, without a compelling emotional reason for doing so. My favorite (and very negative) example would be Garota D' Ipanema "translated", or rather re-written into English for facilitating the US sales. As the result, The Girl From Ipanema words in English sounds corny and stale. I looked up the original lyrics, picked up a few dozen Portuguese words, learned how to pronounce them, and guess what - I am glad I did. Stimulation and learning new things is what keeps your brain alive. Besides, I felt like I had a unique chance to peek into the long gone Carioca world of the early 1960s. I would encourage all songwriters outside of the Anglosphere to consider writing poetry in the language they are most comfortable with, to keep it genuine and eloquent. As for the listeners .. online translators are free to use and they are getting better, so no-one is going to die if a band sings in Norwegian or Italian.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 14:42
Very well said . You would make an ideal language student - which is not always the case with your fellow Americans. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:01
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:32
Once I have worked through my post-divorce financial misery (tentatively expected by mid-2015  ), I would be interested in learning Italian .. I love the fact that it's phonetic and feels unisex, and doesn't involve making unpleasant sounds .. unless I am deluding myself . Do they also teach the art of Italian gesticulation ibidem?
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:37
I generally do .... |
Posted By: qwiksand
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:40
Hmm, having posted this I notice that I am unable to vote in this poll (or any others!). Is this a function of my 'newbiness' and/or small number of posts? As I couldn't see it in the FAQ, can someone inform me of the criteria for being allowed to vote?
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 17:42
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ˆI think you need to post 50 times first -------------
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 17:51
| Gong |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 18:29
pffff do you really think people here care about respect of our fellow membersyou are talking about the same forum in which Camel, a 2nd rate generic prog group, has beaten ELP. TWICE!! A forum that is, has, and likely always will vote for 2nd class English language prog over 1st rate foreign language prog. Seriously man... what respect is there left TO lose. A source of entertainment this place is, but definitely not the fountain of good solid objective thought. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: December 21 2014 at 21:28
Rush.------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: qwiksand
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:31
Ah, ok, thanks for the info.
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:34
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^ 25 posts to go ..
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: December 22 2014 at 07:07
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love Gong but RUSH ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 05:23
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Unlike Rush, Gong has given us a musical family: Steve Hillage/System 7, Didier Malherbe, Mother Gong, New York Gong, Tim Blake, etc. etc. to name but a few, not to mention the wonderful jazz fusion that the band evolved into under Pierre Moerlen's leadership which drew in Mike Oldfield among other leading musicians. Rush, on the other hand, from the early 80s continued to produce albums of increasing mediocrity. There is simply no contest (especially on a prog forum). |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 06:11
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WTF!?!?!! Gong still in the lead? I did not expect that Pretty chuffed about it though ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 06:35
| ^ Yep, the PA-pulation in general treats Rush as a top tier prog band, which it, quite frankly, is not. Despite all the good work they have done throughout the past 40 years. |
Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 09:52
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 10:02
Well judging by the amount of fanboys, polls and assorted threads having to do with Rush I've seen over the years, then they should be winning by a landslide. Maybe they're all on holiday somewhere faaaaaaar away from Santa mania and all those mad people (mostly mothers I guess) who go absolutely ape-feces over important issues such as gravy thickness, ornamentations, gift wrapping paper, sweets and how the family will react to the cleanliness of the windows  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 11:58
Of course Rush is a top tier prog band. Sales, longevity, influence - they qualify on all counts as top flight. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 12:10
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Go-Gong! -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 12:14
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There are no true "prog" bands anymore....but Rush comes as close as any band right now. Most are crossover bands that are heavy into electronic, indie, alternative, rock........ -------------
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 14:55
They only disguise themselves as a second rate generic prog group. Once you've classified them as that, then suddenly... BANG! you find out that you like them as much as the best prog groups, like ELP. It may happen to you too, so be warned!
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 15:24
I'd agree with that. To slightly re-phrase: the present day definition of prog is as vast as it's vague. Sometimes I feel it may be easier to define what's not prog
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 15:35
OK, OK, a top tier it is. Sales and Longevity: These are tell-tale hallmarks of prog since when? (Hint: since Michael Jackson, Bee Gees, Rolling Stones, Frank Sinatra and James Last orchestra )Influence: I am not educated in this matter. Care to elucidate? |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 16:27
I'm discussing whether they are top tier, not whether they are prog. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 22:01
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 23 2014 at 23:31
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Only Eric Clapton is god.....Peart is the Professor. -------------
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 24 2014 at 03:24
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