Surely Go should be included, it has some of the best musicians from the 70's in there. Winwood, Schulze, Shreeve, DiMeola, absolutely stonking artists and 3 brilliant albums. They must be included

tangerine62 wrote: Jon and f**kin Vangelis get added, but Go still wait paitiently to be added....are you guys in the real world.

hey,hey,hey: take it easy on vangelis!

greenback wrote: tangerine62 wrote: Jon and f**kin Vangelis get added, but Go still wait paitiently to be added....are you guys in the real world. hey,hey,hey: take it easy on vangelis!

I'd says f***kin Jon and Vangelis, but well...

It's fair to admit that Yamashta produced very different works over his active period. Some of which are definitely Prog, others are - well, different. Still on this site some bands with the odd Prog-ish tune seem to receive undue attention (and support) at the expense of others that would qualify more readily. It's becoming of a sore point to me.

Short of having a credible suggestion for a name change for ProgArchives, I am kind of expecting that one day I'll see Genesis (with Gabriel) listed as Prog, whereas with Collins it may appear in the NeoProg?

From memory, Yamashta's "Freedom is frightening" is an album that I wouldn't trade for all of Vangelis's works, whereas Go had a lesser impact on me, although it did have some very good parts, too. I suspect that some personality issues, coupled with ego and self-importance may be responsible for non-support of some genuine articles here.

Well Snow Dog, I do hope that you are right in your comment, that is I am wrong. I'd be very happy to be wrong in this matter.... , but I am yet to find a convincing argument for that.

Frankly, my involvement with the site goes back a few months only, but in recent times I've been observing a degree of degeneration here - and some appauling attitudes on display. I love Prog and until I am muzzled, or perhaps totally put off, I'll stand up for the MUSIC first.

By the way Snow Dog. I am yet to hear a word from you on the subject - that is Yamashta - as opposed to responding to a person/contributor. Anything to offer?

I've never heard is music although I am aware of him and always suspected him to be a prog like artist. He's a percussionist isn't he? Anyway I have no objections to him being put here, and I feel that he will be in time.

There are many bands also not here yet, but as I said, it takes time. This site is no ones full time job after all.

Until very recently, you could have added him tyo the site yourself, but this option has been suspended and is, I believe , under review.

Meanwhile discussion is the best option!

That's right, Yamashta is a percussionist and his releases vary in style, but rather centered on Prog in general. Don't get me wrong, I am not a mad devotee of his music, I just feel that much of his music represents a valid inclusion here. My recent post "Yamashta again" was more of a querry for information as well as for raising awareness. I am still surprised as why that Topic is shifted into Non-Prog? (Isn't the Forum meant to afford discussion and exchange of information?) Also, the "Hot Topic", or the like symbol preceding the shifted post? I haven't a clue as what that means. Reds under the bed, or what? Non Comprendo....

I say it again, I am still learning the ropes of this site and perhaps I post the odd message in the wrong post? I have no intention in contributing to Non-Prog, hence my frustration. Maybe I should have consulted with Maani, but I saw no need for bothering him for something that seems so obvious to me, hence I had another go recently.

Dick Heath, however had no difficulty with offering valuable info and as such he dampened my frustration a bit. I'd stop well short of recommending all of Yamashta's albums, Go is a reasonable project, although somewhat light for my taste, whereas the one I wanted to know more about "Freedom is frightening" is where I'd start. Sadly, few remember that out of print piece. "Red Buddha" is interesting too, but perhaps would receive the sticker "Hot Topic"?

Suspending the inclusions is somewhat of a controversial issue, but I definitely feel that the site could do with a bit of a facelift as it is now, so the temporary removal of liberty may offer some breathing space - I hope.

I'll say it again. The thread was moved because Yamashta is not in the Archives. The Prog Lounge is for discussion of music that is included in the Archives.

Guests wrote: I'm not asking for all Yamashta stuff to be added....just Go...which is far more prog than pop synth duo squeaky Anderson and Greek keyboard mesmeriser Vangelis.

i always found yamashta to be the Pat Moraz of Asia!

greenback

Retrovertigo wrote: Stomu Yamash'ta's Go first off, is Jazz, secondly, is not Jazz-Rock/Fusion, but rather World Fusion.

Not how the Complete Go Sessions double CD set is  being packaged and publicised by Raven Records at the moment: jazz fusion, electronica,  rock, R'n'B and space rock. And I think they are right.

Retrovertigo I seriously believe your description is well off target.

How can you add one album from Yamashta's discography without the rest - and these albums always were Stomu Yamashta's projects, pulling in others who ended up with equal billing?

World fusion.....? Still thinking about that. Go : no, Red Buddah Theatre: yes, Freedom Is Frightening: probably not. BTW how do you rate the great Japanese jazz guitarist, Kazumi Watanbe, as world fusion or jazz rock fusion? Shakti is world jazz fusion, Jonas Hellborg's Icon is world jazz fusion, but Go brings little of traditional Japanese music to make it "World" music

World fusion.....? Still thinking about that. Go : no, Red Buddah Theatre: yes, Freedom Is Frightening: probably not. BTW how do you rate the great Japanese jazz guitarist, Kazumi Watanbe, as world fusion or jazz rock fusion? Shakti is world jazz fusion, Jonas Hellborg's Icon is world jazz fusion, but Go brings little of traditional Japanese music to make it "World" music

Agreed.