System of The Down
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Topic: System of The Down
Posted By: Proglover
Subject: System of The Down
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 11:33
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Hello, people.....Proglover here, your resident trouble maker on the site.....Now, I know I "got my way" with the whole Queen thing....and just on a side note, I'd like to thank the creators for making the RIGHT decision. Well, I figure you can guess by the title of this thread what band I'm thinking of. As of late, I have been extremely impressed by System of The Down....I think they are perhaps the best thing that popular music today has going for it...even more, I would say than Coldplay. I am RARELY impressed with today's music, even though I am 23 years of age.....and I rarely rave and rant about anyone popular today..HOWEVER, this System of The Down is a phenomenal BAND!!!!!!!..... I was reading Rolling Stone magazine....now I would like to state that for the record...I HATE Rolling Stone Magazine, but I just so happened to be glancing through it, and there was an article on System of The Down.....and Rolling Stone called them Prog-metal.....which shocked me, because I never viewed them as such although I could definitely tell that this band was something different.....TRULY DIFFERENT!!..... Once again, I am not screaming or advocating their inclusion as I did with Queen.....hahaha, I learned my lesson so to speak....HOWEVER I'm writing this post cause I think this band is truly worth while, and certainly worth keeping an eye on.....and after all....any band influenced by Frank Zappa, is a friend of mine. Oh also, as another sidenote.....is anyone familiar with Bela Fleck and the Flecktones??????........If not, PLEASE GET TO KNOW THEM......wow, talk about an amazing band!!!!!!!.......Now I do realize that the Flecktones are MORE Jazz than anything else, but I figure since we have Weather Report on the site (I love weather report by the way)......the flecktones might not be that much of a stretch. |
............However in any event....I'd like to put forth another band if I may.....Now before I continue, I want it to be understood that I am in NO WAY advocating for the inclusion of the band that I am about to mention (although I feel that their inclusion would be appropriate), BUT....I think it's worth while mentioning any way. 
.....(let me know what you guys think)
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 11:46
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Well, I do view SoaD as prog metal... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: robertplantowns
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 11:48
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bela fleck and the flecktones are bluegrass, funk, jazz instrumental and
have nothing to do with prog rock whatsoever even though victor wooten
is a progressive bassist and fleck a progressive banjo player.
they could be considered progressive bluegrass but not progressive rock. I don't think System of a Down are very prog although they're a decent band. I think when looking at the popular music being produced now it's easy to label a creative or different band as prog, but remember what it's being contrasted against, utter crap. They're progressive compared to mainstream rock nowadays but that doesn't qualify them as being true progressive rock . |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 11:50
| I assume you mean System Of A Down. I'm not that familiar with their work so I'll leave it to others to decide. |
Posted By: Gloryscene
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:09
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SOAD ------------- "The Beautiful Ally Of Your Own Gravediggers" www.gloryscene.co.uk |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:18
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Mezmerize is progressive metal for sure. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:26
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I haven't heard Mesmerize yet ... but their previous albums aren't prog. They're innovative, and I like them very much, but I think that they lack the ambition as musicians to create outstanding music. They're more interested in getting their message across and having fun on stage than in the music as a work of art. At least that's the consensus of several interviews that I read recently. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Sigurd455
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:37
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Mesmerize is not long i dont like this album the music are poor this is not a good group of prog metal 2/5 this is my note for this album |
Posted By: el_Sethro
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:41
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1. it's system of A down; stop saying "the down" 2. I think this is in the wrong forum; isn't there a forum (or maybe just thread) specifically for requesting a band to be added to the site? 3. I definately do not think they're prog 4. ...and neither are Béla Fleck and the Flecktones (although they are extremely amazing) ------------- Who you gonna call? |
Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:45
| SOAD aren't Metal, actually. They're some form of zanny hard rock. I don't hear much Black Sabbath, or any of Metal's roots in SOAD. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 12:48
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SOAD aren't really Metal - They're a Crossover band which intelligently combines Rock and Metal (and various other styles), but their songwriting is not very Metal.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:06
They aren't prog.They are a decent hard rock/metal band.I am seeing them live Aug 22 with The Mars Volta opening for them -------------  |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:09
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I say it's Hair Metal...
------------- And above all, is punk  
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Posted By: The Minstrel
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:15
| I like System of a Down alot. They remind me of Zappa and Mr.Bungle although the quality of their musicians is alot lower. They are definetly the best thing going for popular music right now. |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:15
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They are a fabulous band, but probably not prog rock. They are
progressive when compared to most of the mainstream, but even I
wouldn't say they belong here for sure. What makes them different
is their zany, constantly changing music, which kind of reminds me of a
bunch of (musically talented) 10 year olds with ADD who were fed some
sugar and set about making music. I mean that in a good way of
course. Their songs are short, and they lack much of the spirit
of most prog bands, so I would say that they don't belong here. They are, however, awesome, and Mesmerize is one of the best albums so far this year. Cant wait for Hypnotize to come out.... ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: lp013
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:20
SOAD 
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Gloryscene wrote:Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:28
| Compared to every other mainstream band, they're not too bad. I like the Mr. Bungle influence too, although they don't quite reach that level. However, I'm not in a hurry to buy any of their albums. |
Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:31
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I've listened to "Mesmerize" a lot, and it's very close to prog metal. Constant stops and starts, random changes of time signature, and "Question" is in 5/4 time. But then again, the Gorillaz also had a song in 5/4...I'm hoping that Soad will decide on metal or prog metal on their next album...but as of yet, we just need to wait and see... |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:43
Not a long wait. Their next album will be released in a few months. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 13:55
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for one reason or another, they do not strike me as any kind of prog band. and i do agree, Mike: they're not really metal. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:03
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I Think they'll fit in well enough. i hope they are added |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:06
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I think that they won't be accepted. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 14:23
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System of a Down? Definately not prog... Every one of their songs follows the same pattern, fast, slow, fast, slow, it's never different. The musicians in System of a Down are far from virtuistic, I don't think there has even been a solo in a single SOAD song. They have no "epic" songs nor completely progressive albums. Just because they feature silly lyrics does not make them comparable to Frank Zappa. I do not see them as prog at all, I see them as grossly overrated popular metal. And that's my two cents. ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: Proglover
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:34
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See......see how dumb I am.....System of A Down.....NOT System of The Down......So sorry guys...like a said I hardly keep close tabs with todays music.....But that I should have known!!!!!!!! |
...(me being angry with myself)Posted By: Proglover
Date Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:36
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How would you describe Weather Report?? |
Posted By: EnragedLobster
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 01:36
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I'd say System are very much progressive. Progressive does not mean crazy time signatures, long songs, and random solos. Progressive means, simply, progressive, which SoaD are without a doubt. Mezmerize is easily a prog album. |
Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 02:29
| Have you guys heard their latest offering? Prog? They aren't even accomplished musicians! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 03:46
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Yes they are. But that's not even a criteria for prog (although I think that it should be). ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 03:52
| So you would have trouble working out/playing any of the licks they have written Mike? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 04:02
What does that have to do with prog/non-prog? I could play most of Pink Floyd's music if I wanted to, that doesn't make them non-prog. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 04:31
| Sorry Mike- I was just trying to point out that their songs (I was gonna say compositions, but they are not) are not that complicated, even extremely simplistic |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 04:35
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I know ... and you're even right. I just think that complexity is not a must for something to be considered prog. But it certainly helps. BTW: I'm not for including SOAD - read my first post in this thread:
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Posted By: 1One1
Date Posted: August 21 2005 at 08:05
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Listen to "Old School Hollywood" and tell me it's not Prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:00
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Add them to a Middle-Eastern inspired Metal fan page.
Oogly moogly your cranium |