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Topic: prog-related/prog songs by bands not on PA
Posted By: The Great Duck
Subject: prog-related/prog songs by bands not on PA
Date Posted: February 16 2015 at 03:56
So, even though there's a prog-related category on PA for bands that aren't strictly prog but have made proggy music at times, there's a lot of bands who also had prog influence, but not sufficiently enough to be included here. So I thought it might be interesting to talk about such bands here.

A few examples:
Scorpions had some proggy stuff on their first few albums before Mathias Jabs joined, especially on the debut.
Judas Priest's first four contained some songs which are somewhat proggy IMO (Deceiver/Dreamer Deceiver, Victim of Changes, Beyond the Realms of Death).
Boston's music is mostly hard rock & AOR, but Foreplay/Long Time off their debut is longer than their other songs and has got a proggy feel to it.
Foreigner's Star Rider could also qualify.
Toto had some prog influences on their early albums, even though they were mostly hard rock/AOR/pop-rock. Just listen to title track from Hydra.
Any others that come to mind?



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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: February 16 2015 at 14:48
Well, I've always seen Incubus as a prog band, especially on albums like 'A Crow Left of the Murder' but not many people seem to agree. There is no denying though that this is a prog song:




Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 16 2015 at 15:29
Interestingly, most of the bands mentioned in the OP have been suggested for addition at one time or the other. Judas Priest's first three or four albums do have their share of prog-influenced (I hate the word "proggy"Wink) tracks, though the prog flavour was never as strong in their music as in Iron Maiden's. As to AOR bands, their connections to prog are well documented: indeed, the likes of Kansas and Styx have often straddled the line between the two genres.

Personally, though, I hear progressiveness in a lot of bands active in genres not traditionally considered tangential to prog - such as new wave and trip-hop. The Stranglers, Wire, Ultravox, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Cure, Portishead... In my opinion, most of them would deserve a spot in Prog-Related (though it is very unlikely to happen) - as would Faith No More, who have often been suggested without success.


Posted By: Littlecarrots
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 00:42
Jambands usually have some prog-infused songs, at least some of them.

I've always considered this live-only song by The String Cheese Incident to be a lovely fusion of a prog epic with the typical happy jam sound of theirs. But then, SCI have lots of "proggy" moments on almost all their albums.

Also related with SCI is their keyboard player, Kyle Hollingsworth, whose debut album is full of proggy moments, in a jazz-fusion vein, with some funk and electronic touches. I specially love how this three songs flow together. 


I even thought of suggesting him before the release of his last album last year (though I loved it, it's more of a funk, disco, electronic dance and afrobeat fusion album, and not really a proggy or even jazzy album).

And then there's this Bee Gees' song. Really lovely opener from a great and overlooked album.



Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 01:49
Crazy Eyes (1973) is a great prog song by Poco.








Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 05:27
"Eagle" by ABBA. From their fifth album, The Album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEieLT0QfLo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEieLT0QfLo
 
 
"Levity Ball" by Alice Cooper. From his debut album, Pretties For You, 1969

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL8cZgvlxAQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL8cZgvlxAQ


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 05:37
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 06:10
Originally posted by Komandant Shamal Komandant Shamal wrote:


 
"Levity Ball" by Alice Cooper. From his debut album, Pretties For You, 1969

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL8cZgvlxAQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL8cZgvlxAQ


Good song, more people should hear the first two Alice Cooper albums, some very weird stuff there.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 09:26
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Crazy Eyes (1973) is a great prog song by Poco.



 
If you are going to cite that one you might as well include Hotel California by the Eagles...
Wink
 
 


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 09:31
I have always thought that many XTC songs have strong prog elements .....not to mention the Beatles and Beach Boys also. 
 


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 09:33
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Crazy Eyes (1973) is a great prog song by Poco.
 
If you are going to cite that one you might as well include Hotel California by the Eagles...
Wink
 
 
Hotel California must be prog, after all, they stole it from Tull. LOL
 
I'm on an old Alice Cooper kick lately (reliving my disaffected teen years, obviously). This is proggier than a lot of alleged prog (complete with hints of Spanish and Arabic themes):
 
 


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 14:31
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Crazy Eyes (1973) is a great prog song by Poco.
 
If you are going to cite that one you might as well include Hotel California by the Eagles...
Wink
 
 
Hotel California must be prog, after all, they stole it from Tull. LOL
 
I'm on an old Alice Cooper kick lately (reliving my disaffected teen years, obviously). This is proggier than a lot of alleged prog (complete with hints of Spanish and Arabic themes):
 
 
 
Great old track by Cooper......Thumbs Up
I saw them once just after I'm Eighteen came out.


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 14:34
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Crazy Eyes (1973) is a great prog song by Poco.
 
If you are going to cite that one you might as well include Hotel California by the Eagles...
Wink
 
 
Hotel California must be prog, after all, they stole it from Tull. LOL
 
I'm on an old Alice Cooper kick lately (reliving my disaffected teen years, obviously). This is proggier than a lot of alleged prog (complete with hints of Spanish and Arabic themes):
 
 
 
Great old track by Cooper......Thumbs Up
I saw them once just after I'm Eighteen came out.
I saw them the first time just before the School's Out album was released.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 17 2015 at 15:09
Ozzy does progParty




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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: February 19 2015 at 04:52
I think that kraut lovers will like this song :
 
 
It's a song by former Belgrade's kraut band called http://petrol.bandcamp.com/album/80-prole-a" rel="nofollow - Petrol . They dismissed two years ago; this is a band who recorded all the songs at their two full-lenght albums with analog equipment only and who has a "cult" fan base here. Sadly rejected for PA.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 19 2015 at 10:03
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

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David, you sly devil  Evil Smile, are you coyly trying to imply that this is an old  and oft repeated topic? Wink 

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: February 19 2015 at 17:09
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

The search function is your friendBig smile

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David, you sly devil  Evil Smile, are you coyly trying to imply that this is an old  and oft repeated topic? Wink 
There needs to be a sticky topic at Proto Prog/Prog Related sub-forum (or at General Musiic Discussions sub-forum) which will be a summary topic for all "prog songs by non-prog bands". 
And then the forum moderator to put all of that in this one thread; that's actually the only way to avoid multiplied threads with the same subject.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 24 2015 at 14:58
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: February 27 2015 at 18:14
Put on any of the upteen versions of "Dark Star" from the good ol' Grateful Dead and link into the embryonic stages of a half a dozen genres of progressive rock.  The omission of the Dead from PA is the single biggest problem with the site.  Seriously, how can the Airplane, Phish, and Todd Rundgren be on the site and not the Dead?  I mean, Tori Amos?!?  C'mon!  

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Posted By: SquonkHunter
Date Posted: February 27 2015 at 20:11
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Crazy Eyes (1973) is a great prog song by Poco.





A great prog-ish song by one of my favorite country-rock bands. Clap


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