Hand. Cannot. Erase. Poll.
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Topic: Hand. Cannot. Erase. Poll.
Posted By: Svetonio
Subject: Hand. Cannot. Erase. Poll.
Date Posted: February 24 2015 at 12:20
 An initial vote goes to Routine |
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Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: February 24 2015 at 13:01
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Ancestral, but this whole album was brilliance and had nice metal influences, which I thought were lacking in The Raven ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: February 24 2015 at 13:13
| Ancestral for me too, love that Wilson's bringing back the metal. I hear a bit of Mastodon influence in there. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 24 2015 at 14:39
Still waiting for my copy (checks to make sure there isn't a track by this name )
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Posted By: infernalfrog
Date Posted: February 24 2015 at 14:48
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I still think The Raven was his best effort (even better than porcupine tree), but this is one amazing album, the second best of his solo stuff, imo. 3 Years Older is my favourite at the moment. But there's great tracks, Routine, Ancestral, Home Invasion, even the pop-ish Hand Cannot Erase is a great track, just like Trains was on In Absentia. I think it's a 5 star album, need more listenings to be sure. ------------- Please, forgive my spelling and concordance mistakes. English noob here. |
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: February 24 2015 at 14:49
| Ugh, a grooveshark link. Can we at least wait until the album is officially released? |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: February 25 2015 at 14:38
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Ancestral so far but that may change. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 25 2015 at 17:56
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tboyd1802 wrote:Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: February 25 2015 at 19:15
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People, I will try to explain the how the first 3 tracks made me feel on first hearing: track 1. i smiled at the warped tape sounding of this. track 2. i laughed at how much this sounded like rush's Hemispheres track 3. i cried because i KNOW this is too good for a grammy. ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 25 2015 at 19:16
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Too good for Grammy :(? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: February 25 2015 at 19:26
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Have you heard the tripe that passes for a grammy award? This is too good. Grammys aren't given out for good MUSIC... They are awarded for PERFORMANCES. I know POP music fanatics that would agree with this statement, but they find this way of thinking acceptable. I think there should be another REAL MUSICIANSHIP award. This album would definitely get multiple awards. ... haha... and you certainly wont find any of it on a juke box..
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 25 2015 at 19:38
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So I guess The Mars Volta suck because they got a Grammy? Seeing whoever gets a Grammy doesn't make real music. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: February 28 2015 at 12:19
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The album has been released, so I reopened the poll but I removed the stream link in the main post because that is still an illegal leak. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 28 2015 at 15:35
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I guess this album will be hailed by an army of devotees. Nevertheless I can foretell with a high level of probability that this album will not make it to my top 10 at the end of the year. But still it's good and quite enjoyable with a number of good songs: #1 and #5-#8 being the best imho. I voted for First Regret. ------------- 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 00:41
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The opener over Regret #9 ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 01:01
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Still not received my copy yet so no vote....... -------------   
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Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 02:58
| Imho, Routine is the best one. |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 11:56
No one in my town sells this CD.  Guess I'll have to order it on Amazon. ------------- Want to play mafia? Visit http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com" rel="nofollow - here . |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 13:20
Correct.....prog anything is non-existent in the PNW. Screamo-thrash metal and pop-metal is big tho -------------
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 13:27
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It's a Steven Wilson album so it automatically gets five stars no matter how good or bad it sounds, and is guaranteed to bring bliss to all prog fans. Just like The Endless River. End of review.
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 13:53
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The album's decent. No better. In fact, you know something's up when SWilson's foray into electronic rock isn't as up to snuff as Archive's release this year, Restriction. Opener's the best track. -------------  
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 14:07
| Well I absolutely love it but then that's on the first listen. Raven as much as I like it is weirdly 'ordinary' or perhaps 'trite' could be a better description despite its ambition. This on the other hand goes in so many directions that I would have a much harder time describing some of the tracks. Also this grabs me emotionally while at times I felt a bit detached with Raven. Almost had me thinking this could have been Deadwing Part 2 , that being the album that drew me into his music in the first place. Picking a track is hard but my first instinct is to go for Regret #9 for the great synth solo , the best I've heard for a long time. Shades of Rick Wright-Wish You Were Here era for certain. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 15:34
Well....I am a fan of all the PT albums especially the earlier ones but the Wilson ones never appealed to me as much. I have yet to buy Raven and I have listened to this new one on you tube and it's not knocking my socks off. I would like to see him get back with the PT members and do another album like Signify, In Absentia, or Stupid Dream. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 21:28
Well, I guess I am lucky that there's usually at least a bit of prog on the store that I usually visit. They usually have at least the latest Steven Wilson/PT albums (right now they have cover versions and the Drive Home EP). Of course they have a bit of Pink Floyd, Yes, Dream Theater and Rush too, and from time to time they have some things from Genesis, King Crimson, ELP, Jethro Tull, and if they were to release something new, they would surely stock it. They also usually have the latest from Transatlantic, Riverside, Opeth, Marillion. However, they have been diminishing the amount they have. Before, they had some of the back discography from many of this bands, but lately they have gotten more wary about it. They used to have the whole discography of Pink Floyd, Yes, Dream Theater, PT, Rush, I think even Frank Zappa (whom I have not seen there anymore). They used to have some back discography from Rick Wakeman, Gentle Giant, Camel too, now I think they have nothing from them. I even got one or two RPI albums there. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 21:35
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 21:39
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 01 2015 at 22:01
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I like this album better than his previous 3. Can't pick a fave track yet though. ------------- |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 02 2015 at 06:19
Yes, it is a bit rich coming from me but you're clearly ------------- 
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 02 2015 at 11:26
"People have to believe you care before they care what you believe."
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 11:46
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^You responded to my post, so you obviously care. Sometimes silence is a better response. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 11:49
Trolling or just the plain truth? There was once a commonly told fable called the Emperor's new clothes. Does it ring a bell? ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 11:50
| I agree, you should have been quiet. Now back to the POLL. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 11:52
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^oh, I forgot that the truth hurts sometimes. My apologies. Carry on then. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 12:32
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I haven't heard the album (though I eventually will, even if just for curiosity's sake), but I tend to side with Steve regarding the widespread SW worship. Personally, I think there are a lot of bands/artists currently active on the prog scene that are as talented as he is, and a lot of albums released in the past five years or so that are more interesting than any of SW's (or Porcupine Tree's, for that matter) albums. However, I am smart enough to realize I am in the minority on this particular issue. |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 12:37
| This thread is a poll for his latest album's contents. It is not a thread to bash his popularity or music. I am sure there are threads already existing for that discussion. These are the kind of posts which derail threads. Negative. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 13:25
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^I thought this poll was a place to comment on Wilson's current work. If member's perspectives are involved in determining the quality of that current work, then those perspectives are relevant to the criticism. I'll go a bit further and emphasize that I still purchase all the music I comment on. Once that purchase is enacted, I have the right to truthfully voice my like or dislike for said artist's work, regardless if people want to hear it or not. Furthermore, those that feel intimidated to voice displeasure at an artist's work, for fear of the going against a majority opinion, fail in their responsibility to critique such art. In case I didn't make myself clear, there are no songs on this album that are worth voting for. A poll was proposed and I answered it truthfully. Believe it or not, truthful criticism is a sign that someone cares. |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 13:39
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Voted for Routine. This album is way better than Raven. Can't say if it's better than Grace for Drowning or Insurgentes, but it's definitely a great work and one of his best albums. And lyrically, the concept itself is surely his best work. Never understood moanings from people who want porcupine Tree to reunite, Wilson's solo work is a clear continuation of Porcupine Tree in every possible way. And a major improvement since then as well. And I'm rather surprised by all the hatred towards electronic sound. Men, it' progressive rock, not the repeating of what's been created back in 1969. Have you ever heard of Avant-Prog, Progressive Electronic, Krautrock etc? ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 13:49
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This could well overtake The Sky Moves Sideways and Voyage 34 as my favourite Wilson album. I enjoyed Raven but I think that has more variety. Voted for Ancestral - but plenty of competition from a number of the tracks.
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 13:49
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Overall I'm happy that Wilson returned to more modern sound instead of trying to repeat Genesis (which are not just unrepeatable, but doesn't need any repeat). The Raven was terribly overrated here. Even although the songwriting was on pretty high level there, it wasn't Wilson's best work, methinks. It had virtually nothing new to say. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 18:25
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Deluxe edition? Worth the extra cake? How's the documentary? ------------- |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 03 2015 at 18:32
 The best track on the album. Imo. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 04 2015 at 01:42
feeling quite smug that I got the Blu Ray edition. Great sound , images ( a series of 'mocked up' photos that appear very real) and an excellent documentary that is 30 minutes long. You can also have an instrumental version of the album if you want. Wasn't that expensive either ( less than a tenner)
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: March 08 2015 at 12:46
| I voted Happy Returns. For me it's the most emotionally provocative. Its the least proggy track, and yet the most surprising one to me. |
Posted By: aliano
Date Posted: March 08 2015 at 12:53
+1 |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 08 2015 at 17:07
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Listened to it again via you tube......good solid songs - Wilson doesn't write bad music-, but to me they all sound like re-workings or variations of earlier material with PT and things he's done before. That's not a bad thing nor a criticism per se but I have trouble getting excited about any of his solo albums ( I did like several tracks on Raven since I like that retro sound...) and I like the melodies and tracks better on the older albums with PT. I simply don't see any major changes nor that he's writing better material than he did in the past. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: March 08 2015 at 19:35
That's one of the more frustrating things about Wilson, album to album there doesn't sound like there's much evolution, but go back five or six reeases it seems like he's progressed a bunch. He'd really benefit from slowing down his output, maybe put out material once every five years or so as opposed to something every single year.
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: March 24 2015 at 17:25
| Ancestral. |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 24 2015 at 17:36
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Ancestral but Regret #9 is right behind. ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: March 24 2015 at 17:39
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1. Routine 2. Routine 3. Routine ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 24 2015 at 17:44
^That's three more than I could pick.  ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Littlecarrots
Date Posted: March 24 2015 at 18:14
| 3 Years Older, the chorus is just amazing, I really dig the acoustic guitar that gives it an almost folk vibe on some parts. But I'm really hooked with this album. Happy Returns/Ascendant Here On..., Perfect Life and Routine hit me really hard on an emotional level, Home Invasion/Regret #9 and Ancestral are simply mindblowing. The whole album is marvelous! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 24 2015 at 22:42
| At last I got this album... but I don't think I can pick a song yet. So far the one I have been coming back most is Perfect Life... but I guess that's mainly because it's the most recognizable, I really don't think it will be my favourite from the album. I guess it will end up being one of the songs that come after that one (Routine, Home Invasion, or Ancestral). There's one which has a keyboard part that really reminds me of ELP (bordering on rip-off)... I guess it's Ancestral... that one might just as well end up being the one. |
Posted By: POTA
Date Posted: August 30 2015 at 20:28
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Regret #9 is easily the highlight of the album in my opinion. It blows me away every time I hear it. |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: August 30 2015 at 22:09
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Adam Holzman's Moog solo followed by Guthrie Govan's guitar solo is just perfect. Regret#9 it is. This is the only SW solo album that my wife enjoys & regularly talks about ! ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: WrytXander
Date Posted: August 31 2015 at 03:51
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Ancestral, though I'm surprised at the lack of votes for Home Invasion. Very solid piece as well. ------------- 20+ prog bands discovered and explored in 3 years, still going strong... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 31 2015 at 04:40
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Yeah man, from the very first listen - Ancestral. Not that I dislike any of the tracks on this album. Still, I prefer Raven overall. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 31 2015 at 07:59
| A half year after, I'd like to say that Hand.Cannot.Erease is a decent album with a few really great prog songs. I still do like to see Porcupine Tree reunited where Mr Wilson will get some new energy and then the band perhaps will release a really masterpiece of contemporary prog. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 31 2015 at 09:45
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Definitely.Over.Rated ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 31 2015 at 09:58
I actually laughed. Well played. I sampled this album a bit very soon after it got released. For some reason i just felt unmoved by what i heard. Musically it sounded pretty unadventurous, which has been the case with recent Swilson albums. I used to go out and buy blind any Swilson album, did it with the last 3 PT albums and his solo albums until Raven. Since then he has kind of lost me a bit. Raven was amazing in some parts, but the lengthier tracks just sounded formulaic. Somehow Swilson sounds a lot more progressive and unexpected when he sticks to his more alt-rock influences. Grace by Drowning and Insurgentes is some of the best things he has ever touched, but since then i've been disappointed with his sound. I'll be giving this a proper listen soon, because it still is Swilson - but it'll have to work hard to sway how i already feel. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: August 31 2015 at 10:21
The shops here have tons of the older prog material. I can find Amon Duul, anything by Zappa, Yes, Genesis, Can, Camel, younameit from the 70's, it's probably here. Unfortunately, they don't have much of the newer variety. They do have Tool, but no PT/Steven Wilson, no Spock's Beard, no Anglagard, no Beardfish. Some of this is to be expected I guess, but they didn't even have the new Muse album that came out. ------------- Want to play mafia? Visit http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com" rel="nofollow - here . |
Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: September 01 2015 at 08:08
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i voted for "Ancestral". |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 01 2015 at 14:48
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Couple of new reviews on the LP on the main page......I still don't see what all the fuss is about. I just listened again to the album and to my ears it's basically the same stuff Wilson's been writing for the last few years. I still will take the best PT albums over any of his solo albums. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: September 01 2015 at 16:19
| Voted for Regret #9, mainly for that spectacular guitar solo. Home Invasion is great as well. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 04 2015 at 10:05
| Ancestral |
Posted By: twalsh
Date Posted: September 04 2015 at 21:12
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I like everything on Hand Cannot Erase, except the title track and Perfect Life. The first is too poppy and the second was only interesting for a half dozen plays. Voted for Ancestral but overall, this is a strong album. ------------- More heavy prog, please! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 05 2015 at 00:18
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Note, it's the longer pieces that get the votes (duh). Wilson and his band of merry men have a way to develop outstanding epics which never fail to please the MAJORITY of Progheads. I am truly baffled that naysayers exist in regards to SW....... To me, he is the main torchbearer for modern Prog. There are many keeping Prog alive for sure, but none more successful and widely known as SW. I adore 70's Prog, and most things these days get compared to those amazing things, but SW really capitalises on melding up-to-date music stylings with regard to the classics, without sounding 'neo'. Hats off to him. |