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Topic: Pawn Hearts Vs Trespass
Posted By: Svetonio
Subject: Pawn Hearts Vs Trespass
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 16:43
I love both albums but slightly more Trespass. And consenquently an initial vote goes to that great Genesis' masterpiece of English Symphonic rock.
Please vote.

Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 16:51
Pawn Hearts.

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 16:53
Trespass, although none of its tracks keeps par with Man-erg.


Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 16:55


"Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl."

Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 16:57
VDGG, by light years.

Trespass is a wonderful album, and holds an important position in Genesis (and hence Progressive Rock) history. But Pawn Hearts was a monumental, more uncompromising achievement, sounding just as weird and difficult today as it did over 40 years ago...

"we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini

Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 17:03

Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 18:56
VdGG, even without APOLK

There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...

Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 18:56
Pawn Hearts


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 19:22

Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.

Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 20:10
If they offer a release that strips Hammill's voice from the recording, I would say VdGG; unfortunately, that is not the case, so Trespass.

...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...

Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 20:52

Welcome to the middle of the film.

Posted By: ramses
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 22:31
Both awesome releases, I will go with trespass because of the influence it had on me at the time.

Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: April 05 2015 at 23:09
Trespass... but I'm not familiar with Van Der Graff Generator so much.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 02:46
Neither are particular favourites but Pawn Hearts has a bit more grit that one.

Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 03:38
Pawn Hearts is much more powerful and devastatingly emotional, but obviously I'll have to go for Trespass. It just suits my taste perfectly. Also, I was surprised how intricate and well-written Trespass was, but really the opposite for Pawn Hearts. There are so few interesting chord progressions, but they manage to pull it off. Anyway, love em both but Genesis + Anthony Phillips > all other music Smile

Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 03:53
Perfection of total chaos vs. a mostly peaceful, pastoral record that has some gaps in it, as much as I love the pastoral peace on Trespass. Voted for the former.

I don't want to be one wave in the wat-te-e-e-er!!!

Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 07:21
Pawn Hearts is an easy choice for me...

Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 07:56
I'm not a big VdGG fan

Trespass easily for me

Prog On!

Posted By: O666
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 10:05
Trespass absolutely. One the "Progressive Rock Roots" albums IMO.

Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 10:36
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

If they offer a release that strips Hammill's voice from the recording, I would say VdGG; unfortunately, that is not the case, so Trespass.

My view except that they'd have to strip the sax out as well.

A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life.

Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 13:33
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Trespass absolutely. One the "Progressive Rock Roots" albums IMO.

If Tresspass is prog roots, then Pawn Hearts are fully grown prog leaves & flowers.

This night wounds time.

Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 13:40
Pawn Hearts but Trespass is amazing as well.


Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 17:56

Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 06 2015 at 19:29
I like Trespass, it's great- but Pawn Hearts is on a whole other level. 

The atmosphere on it is just so brilliantly put together. Plus Hammill's singing is just a knife in the heart. 

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 09:56
I hold 'Hearts close to my heart. Fully realized while Trespass meanders here and there.

Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 10:05
Trespass for much as I like VDGG music I could never really warm up to Hammill's voice.

One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.

Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 10:14
Horn Parts

Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: April 16 2015 at 04:10

Genesis, Trespass.

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.

Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: April 16 2015 at 12:49
Trespass is a lovely album showing how much potential the band had. Pawn Hearts is an album that shows a band reaching its potential,

Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 16 2015 at 14:18

Pawn Hearts, but it's not a fair comparison. Pawn Hearts is VdGG fully realized (at least at that juncture) and that album is an acknowledged classic (even this month it made the cut in Classic Rock Magazine's article on the 250 albums "you need to own" (along with a nice separate 6 page article on Hammill/VdGG), and habitually makes the cut in similar lists, etc. Trespass is Genesis just starting to find its feet. A fairer poll would have been Pawn Hearts vs Foxtrot, or Trespass vs The Least.

On the other hand, if you just like one band and not the other, it probably doesn't matter. (There is no Genesis album I'd rather hear over any VdGG album, so I get it if the reverse is true for someone else)


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 17 2015 at 07:14
Overall about equal for me, although there is nothing on Trespass that's on a par with Man ERG imo. That is a mindblowing track and one of their best.

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: April 19 2015 at 18:12
There are not many albums who beat Pawn Hearts and Trespass is not one of the few!

Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: May 21 2015 at 18:32

Genesis, Trespass.

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.

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