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Topic: Your opinion on Pawn Hearts
Posted By: windycrawford
Subject: Your opinion on Pawn Hearts
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:29
I've noticed, there are a lot of controversial points about this album. While some see it as the artistic peak of VDGG, others think of it as excessive and unlistenable. Who do you think?



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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:32
Best VDGG album (alongside with Godbluff & Still Life), one of the finest creations of prog-rock

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This night wounds time.


Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:35
One of my all-time favs. Best Vdgg album for me.

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"Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl."


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 17:37
I would go for a fourth option: not perfect, but definitely worthy to be mentioned among the highlights of progressive rock. "Lemmings" is one of the strongest opening tracks in prog, and the slower, moodier pace of "Man-Erg" provides a nice contrast. On the other hand, "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" starts out great, but the chaotic middle section loses the plot somewhat, and is not one of the band's finest moments (in my opinion, of course).


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 18:18
Mighty.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 18:52
One of the best Prog rock has to offer.


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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:36
While I personally prefer Still Life, this is a great album - one of the finest ever created by a prog band - and absolutely essential to any prog collection. 


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:48
The epitome of prog rock. 

Always an enjoyable listen. 

Somehow always makes me grin listening to it. Something that a lot of classic albums stopped doing a while ago.

Props to the boys. 


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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:50
How does everyone think Lighthouse Keepers holds when compared to other classic-era epics?

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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 19:55
Theeeee Gem Heart


Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 21:20
Really good album, but really overrated.

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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 21:37
I would offer my negative opinion, but Barbu would get mad at me. LOL

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 21:57
When it is good, it is really wonderful, but it's got some moments I don't really care much about, so I don't really think any of this options sound right for me. Man-Erg is a really wonderful songs, and half of Lighthouse Keepers too... but the other half is just too noisy, and then the new melodies just aren't as great as the first ones. Lemmings I don't really care about.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 22:30
My mother always said that if I didn't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
 
Smile
 
 


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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin


Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: May 05 2015 at 22:38
Imma go with the second option. The best for me is definetly H to He and it gets a little boring towards the middle of APOLK. But a really great listen in general.

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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...


Posted By: Altairius
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 00:22
One of the best albums, but not VdGG's best. That would be Godbluff.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 00:41
Option #1. Probably in my top 10. Brimming with creativity.

Graphomaniac ... I gotta laugh. Who does that?
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

How does everyone think Lighthouse Keepers holds when compared to other classic-era epics?
Thoroughly engaging after multiple listens.
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

My mother always said that if I didn't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
 
Smile
Words of the wise.


Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 00:45
Option 2. I prefer Godbluff, Still Life & World Record.


Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 02:16
One of the finest creations of prog rock, but not the best VDGG album (IMO that is Least We Can Do is Wave)
 
Therefore no vote, as none of the options apply.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 03:08
Option #2 fits this album very well. Man-erg is one of my favourite VdGG songs, Lemmings is quite good (I prefer the excellent Metropolis Studios version), A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers just average and their first proof that long epics are not their strongest side.

Still Life > Godbluff > H to He > A Grounding in Numbers > Pawn Hearts


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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 05:04
For me, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers is probably the most coherent and most entertaining 20+minutes long epic I've ever heard.


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This night wounds time.


Posted By: friso
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 06:15
It might have been even better with a bit less avant-garde, but overall a highlight of the progressive era.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 06:52
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:


I would offer my negative opinion, but Barbu would get mad at me. LOL



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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 11:31
A worthy album that's among the best by the band, so the choices didn't apply for me.


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 13:15
One of the top 3 prog albums of all time for me...an absolute masterpiece Wink

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Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 15:26
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

The epitome of prog rock. 

Yes, one of the best art rock albums. Mayby the best.


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om mani padme hum


Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 15:37

 better than sex



Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 15:47
Second best, after Godbluff, and this is after I squeezed in the "W" and "Theme One" bonus tracks into the main album. I dunno, I think Godbluff resonates more with me emotionally, especially with the lyrics.

Nonetheless, it's a fine album.




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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!


Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 16:00
Some of the proggiest prog from 1971. I'd say it's their best, though H to He is close. It's not as accessible as H to He or Godbluff. "Plague" definitely took a while to grow on me, but once I understood, it really blew my mind. 


Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 17:11
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

 better than sex

I applaud you, good sir Clap

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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 06 2015 at 17:35
A big dose of quirkiness that works really well; VDGG's finest, a great record.


Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: May 07 2015 at 17:17
Option 1.


Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: May 08 2015 at 15:11
Definitely my favourite VDGG album.

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Haiku

Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
Is very diffic....


Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: May 09 2015 at 05:49
VdGG's best and one of the greatest prog album ever.


Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: May 17 2015 at 03:28
My all time favourite (with Red and Thick as a Brick)

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Would you catch my words???


Posted By: progrockdeepcuts
Date Posted: May 17 2015 at 09:02
Checks all three boxes quite nicely, actually. Smile

EDIT: But Godbluff is better.


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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: May 17 2015 at 12:21
My favourite of theirs - pure genius!


Posted By: progrockdeepcuts
Date Posted: May 17 2015 at 12:26
In all honesty, when I first got it, it was my favorite album ever for about 2 years. Nowadays, I don't enjoy it as much (much prefer GodBluff). Maybe I just overplayed it?

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 18 2015 at 09:41
Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

 better than sex

I applaud you, good sir Clap
 
Hmm....there's two people that either haven't had sex recently or are doing it wrong.
 
 
 
Wink


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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 18 2015 at 09:57
Originally posted by Varon Varon wrote:

My all time favourite (with Red and Thick as a Brick)

You obviously THE MAN!!


Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: May 18 2015 at 13:52
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

 better than sex

I applaud you, good sir Clap
 
Hmm....there's two people that either haven't had sex recently or are doing it wrong.
 
 
 
Wink
It's kissing while you're naked right?


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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 18 2015 at 14:26
Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

 better than sex

I applaud you, good sir Clap
 
Hmm....there's two people that either haven't had sex recently or are doing it wrong.
 
 
 
Wink
It's kissing while you're naked right?
 
Something like that.
 
btw....if you want to ruin the mood for sex definitely play some VDGG.
Wink
 


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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin


Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: May 18 2015 at 15:09
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

 better than sex

I applaud you, good sir Clap
 
Hmm....there's two people that either haven't had sex recently or are doing it wrong.
 
 
 
Wink
It's kissing while you're naked right?
 
Something like that.
 
btw....if you want to ruin the mood for sex definitely play some VDGG.
Wink
 
Knots by GG would work too


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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 20 2015 at 03:25
The compositions aren't that strong really. I rate is behind all their other albums between 1970 and 1978

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: June 21 2015 at 14:47
I clicked at "Best VDGG album, one of the finest creations of prog-rock".



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