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Topic: 2nd Round Moderns: Mirrord v. U Totem s/tPosted By: micky
Subject: 2nd Round Moderns: Mirrord v. U Totem s/t
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 12:42
From NYC baby!!
the King Crimson of today's modern prog...
Battles.
yes.. you have seen it all.. an Avant prog supergroup.. and here they are..
and their name is U Totem
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Replies: Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 13:33
Battles just isn't my thing but I love U Totem, what an adventerous album.
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 13:46
giving it to the Battles album.. as some freethnkers have noted.. an album 40 years from now that will likely be looked upon as we all do ITCotCK. An opening shot in a completely new direction of rock/progressive rock.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 13:46
Another toughie but Mirrored by a pubic hair.
------------- Magma America Great Make Again
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 14:55
Battles.
------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 17:28
micky wrote:
giving it to the Battles album.. as some freethnkers have noted.. an album 40 years from now that will likely be looked upon as we all do ITCotCK. An opening shot in a completely new direction of rock/progressive rock.
Spits out coffee
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 17:40
Quite enjoyed Battles but UTotem is outstanding
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 18:33
Mellotron Storm wrote:
micky wrote:
giving it to the Battles album.. as some freethnkers have noted.. an album 40 years from now that will likely be looked upon as we all do ITCotCK. An opening shot in a completely new direction of rock/progressive rock.
Spits out coffee
groundbreaking and genre-altering it has been... and so it will be seen. Hard to see when the fans are thinking 40 years backwards.. not forwards...
from various albums reviews over the years...
'Mirrored (Warp, 2007) single-handedly reinvented post-rock for the
21st century.
It appropriated dance rhythms,
jazz improvisation and digital editing
to craft erudite and intricate compositions
that harked back to the Canterbury school of progressive-rock of the 1970s.
'
'This is not just an album that can be appreciated by fans of the
avant-garde, pop and rock alike but a genuine f**k you to the people
claiming modern music has nowhere left to go.
'
'It's official: in 2007, it's all come full circle. Prog rock has made its way into the indie scene..... constructed an album that combines the best of http://www.allmusic.com/artist/van-der-graaf-generator-mn0000257544" rel="nofollow - Van Der Graaf Generator , http://www.allmusic.com/artist/magma-mn0000191376" rel="nofollow - Magma ,
Krautrock, and math rock, while coming up with something that stands so
far out on the fringe that it is in a league of its own'
'Battles may be the first band to really play
with the way that 21st century software can extend and distend the sound of a
rock band in real time........Battles may not be the world's first bionic rock group, but they've done
more to extend the idea of a flesh-and-blood band enhanced by computer
technology than anyone since the late, lamented Disco Inferno. Mirrored
is a breathtaking aesthetic left-turn that sounds less like rock circa
2007 than rock circa 2097, a world where Marshall stacks and
micro-processing go hand in hand.'
'Mirrored’ is the sort of album that the sharp rock kids will be citing as an inspiration.It’s a glimpse through a prism into a myriad of rock futures, and all of them look like a blast. '
'Battles' early work was distinctively math rock which is apparently
something they decided they would shake off with "Mirrored", which shows
the band drawing from basically everything. Prog, rock, pop, polka; if
it exists I'm sure one of the members of Battles consumes it and adds it
in some subtle way to the band's music.......one aspect of Mirrored that can't be disputed is that it is a unique album with little to no similar peers.'
'After a slew of EPs, their debut is a chugging beast, turning
avant-garde noise on its head, throwing tribal rhythms, heavy metal
riffs, indie-pop licks, and non-sensical vocals into a refreshing aural
masterpiece.'
've been trying to write this review for weeks, rolling around on the
floor of my house in a mindless fog, and the only purpose I can discern
for writing WORDS about SOUNDS is that one or two unsuspecting
music-lovers may discover THE BEST BAND ON EARTH TODAY.
Battles are an idea of a band, a bizzare dream that http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artist/9dxm/" rel="nofollow - Steve Reich had one night after munching a bit too much Roquefort while watching http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artist/rg9x/" rel="nofollow - Yes : Live From The House Of Blues.
They are an unsolicited gift; a weird rupture in the fabric of
everything. Music this experimental shouldn't be fun. Music this cool
shouldn't be joyful. Music this weird should not be danceable. Music as
unclassifiable, bafflingly complex and structural as this should not be
so popular and inclusive.'
'Remember “shock and awe”? On their debut album, Battles bring that
brutal, futuristic precision to the art-rock avant-garde. Featuring
keyboardist/guitarist Ian Williams of math rockers Don Caballero and
drummer John Stanier of post-hardcore virtuosos Helmet, this New
York-based group layers sound manipulator Tyondai Braxton’s alien vocals
over muscular, off-kilter grooves. Think Captain Beefheart, if he’d
been a fan of kraut rock and Animal Collective — or, on the deep,
martial drums of single “Atlas,” Marilyn Manson. For rock that’s both
fist-pumping and forward-looking, this album suggests that Battles have
few peers.'
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 18 2015 at 18:48
Two good albums, voted for U Totem.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 19 2015 at 02:06
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 19 2015 at 19:27
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Altairius wrote:
The prog one
I'm not sure which one you mean
Yeah, I'm confused. I thought neither were prog because they don't sound anything like Neil Morse.
------------- Magma America Great Make Again
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 19 2015 at 19:33
zravkapt wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Altairius wrote:
The prog one
I'm not sure which one you mean
Yeah, I'm confused. I thought neither were prog because they don't sound anything like Neal Morse.
(Ha, I spelt it Neil at first, prolly cuz I was listening to Young at the time)
------------- Magma America Great Make Again
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 19 2015 at 19:33
Ha, I quoted myself.
------------- Magma America Great Make Again
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 20 2015 at 06:34
Mirrored
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: July 20 2015 at 10:35
love Battles
need to listen to U Totem
no vote yet
------------- Prog On!
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 20 2015 at 10:48
zravkapt wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Altairius wrote:
The prog one
I'm not sure which one you mean
Yeah, I'm confused. I thought neither were prog because they don't sound anything like Neil Morse.
Transatlantic best band 1974.
Voted Battles because awesome.
------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 04:30
Battles
Posted By: Altairius
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 14:35
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Altairius wrote:
The prog one
I'm not sure which one you mean
If you had to guess, which would you say
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 15:08
Well, don't ever say prog is not adventurous. Prog seems to be redefined these days. Voting for U-Totem, but Battles sound interesting enough (even when they drove my family out of the living room )
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 15:48
now that is PROG..
then again... whenever my mother was yelling at me to do this or do that.. I ran her out of the house by blasting Janis at full volume. Prog? yeah baby.. let's proto-prog her sweet ass...
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 15:55
I was a good boy as a kid. Never caused any trouble with my family. Only at age 50 I chase my family away Is that what they call a midlife crisis? Well, not dressing up in leather, riding a red car, or asking my wife to dye her hair blond
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:01
Moogtron III wrote:
I was a good boy as a kid. Never caused any trouble with my family. Only at age 50 I chase my family away Is that what they call a midlife crisis? Well, not dressing up in leather, riding a red car, or asking my wife to dye her hair blond
oh god. I was hell on my mother... I was a wild child.
Mid-life crisis. I have 50 coming up on me quickly and Raff will discover just what a mid-life crisis is. No young women.. no motorcycle.. and I've already done the long hair thing (which she does NOT like)
I have mine already planned actually.
on July 26th 2019... I come to work in this baby... it is mine. A black 1969 Pontiac Firebird.. my dream car.
I (will) RULE!!!
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:13
I bought a car last year which looks suspiciously like a senior citizen's car It's because it's my wife doesn't like to drive a car without automatic transmission, and in The Netherlands / Belgium (maybe all of Europe) it's mostly the older people who have cars with automatic transmission.
My midlife-crisis will probably only be audible in the prog I listen to.
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:22
that is a fate I will never allow myself to endure. Just like driving a damned mini-van. Urggg... nothing says emasculated male like a mini-van hahaha
yeah...I had a chance to buy one of those when in high school and passed on it.
A good thing I suppose since my college roomate and I later discovered the joys of drag-racing instead of studying... and within 6 months I crashed 3 cars.. the last HIS '78 Transam.. took a 15mph curve at 85 and .well... there was a tree in my way as I obviously didn't hold the turn and completely totaled it. bye bye Trans-Am... bye bye friend and roommate Good times...
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: twalsh
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:38
U-Totem sounds pretty cool!
------------- More heavy prog, please!
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:42
Totem
------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl."
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:49
U Totem....though I can't say either one did that much for me.
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 17:08
micky wrote:
Man, that's really cool!
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 17:19
micky wrote:
that is a fate I will never allow myself to endure. Just like driving a damned mini-van. Urggg... nothing says emasculated male like a mini-van hahaha
yeah...I had a chance to buy one of those when in high school and passed on it.
A good thing I suppose since my college roomate and I later discovered the joys of drag-racing instead of studying... and within 6 months I crashed 3 cars.. the last HIS '78 Transam.. took a 15mph curve at 85 and .well... there was a tree in my way as I obviously didn't hold the turn and completely totaled it. bye bye Trans-Am... bye bye friend and roommate Good times...
Whoa, so you were really wild I was the quiet boy at school, turning coasters around and around at Kindergarten. The teacher thought I was autistic. She said: What are you doing?? I said something like: that's vinyl records turning around on a record player. That's what we're doing at home. And so we were...
During my student days I had some wild moments, yeah... But apart from that... Oh well, we're all different, aren't we?
Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 19:30
Oh lordy ... American autos. Jaysus. Must admit I loved them when I was a youngster. We went through a bunch of them in the 50s and early 60s. All of them old, bought cheap and well past their use by dates but oh sigh I did love them. Mid 30s Ford Coupes were pretty cool and one glorious V12 Lincoln Zepyhr that unbeknownst to us at the time was used by Gen Douglas McCarthur as his staff car when based in Oz during WWII. Always wanted a mid 60s Mustang ..... till I drove one. Bloody horrible things. Look good though.
U-Totem without much enthusiasm.
------------- Andrew B
“Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” ― Julius Henry Marx
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 21:40
Moogtron III wrote:
Whoa, so you were really wild
enough so that when I dropped out of college to enlist to go serve in the first Gulf War my mother was actually relieved....
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 21:43
t d wombat wrote:
Oh lordy ... American autos. Jaysus. Must admit I loved them when I was a youngster. We went through a bunch of them in the 50s and early 60s. All of them old, bought cheap and well past their use by dates but oh sigh I did love them. Mid 30s Ford Coupes were pretty cool and one glorious V12 Lincoln Zepyhr that unbeknownst to us at the time was used by Gen Douglas McCarthur as his staff car when based in Oz during WWII. Always wanted a mid 60s Mustang ..... till I drove one. Bloody horrible things. Look good though.
U-Totem without much enthusiasm.
no way!
I had bought a '67 fastback some years later and I loved that thing... I didn't crash that one though. The spawn of Satan made me trade it in for ...yes... a mini van.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 22 2015 at 03:08
micky wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Whoa, so you were really wild
enough so that when I dropped out of college to enlist to go serve in the first Gulf War my mother was actually relieved....
You served in the Gulf War? Wow Mother relieved, well, that says something.
Posted By: Skalla-Grim
Date Posted: July 22 2015 at 14:00
I don't know if it's OK to vote based on the youtube samples only.
But U Totem sounds really great, while I must admit I got bored by the repetitions in the Battles song. Maybe they have better material.
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: July 22 2015 at 16:55
Moogtron III wrote:
micky wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Whoa, so you were really wild
enough so that when I dropped out of college to enlist to go serve in the first Gulf War my mother was actually relieved....
You served in the Gulf War? Wow
My reaction as well.
Anyway, I like both of these. Went with Mirrored, for familiarity reasons.
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Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: July 22 2015 at 16:59
micky wrote:
t d wombat wrote:
Oh lordy ... American autos. Jaysus. Must admit I loved them when I was a youngster. We went through a bunch of them in the 50s and early 60s. All of them old, bought cheap and well past their use by dates but oh sigh I did love them. Mid 30s Ford Coupes were pretty cool and one glorious V12 Lincoln Zepyhr that unbeknownst to us at the time was used by Gen Douglas McCarthur as his staff car when based in Oz during WWII. Always wanted a mid 60s Mustang ..... till I drove one. Bloody horrible things. Look good though. U-Totem without much enthusiasm.
no way!
I had bought a '67 fastback some years later and I loved that thing... I didn't crash that one though. The spawn of Satan made me trade it in for ...yes... a mini van.
As I said we had no idea about the Lincoln until a few years back I saw an identical one in a MacArthur doco pulling up outside Sydney Town Hall. That set me off on a search re that model in Australia and found out that there were only ever two of them imported into Australia, both for MacArthur's use. The second one went to Queensland so the one in Sydney had to be ours. It was actually the second one we owned. The other was an earlier model (36 I think) but at some stage it had been fitted with a V8 instead of the original V12.
I simply found the 'stang hideously uncomfortable even when compared to the (oh lawd, the shame the shame) Volvo that I had at the time. All my post mid 70s cars have been European. Very hard to go anywhere else after that. Currently a Lexus. Yeah umm, kind of maybe OK. At least it's a V8. Australian roads are not American highways. We have these things called 'corners'. They leap out and entrap you when you least expect it. To cope with these devious bustards Australian cars are fitted with something known as 'brakes'.
------------- Andrew B
“Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” ― Julius Henry Marx
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 22 2015 at 20:54
U Totem
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 20:38
U Totem.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.