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Topic: 2nd Round Classics: Darwin v. Unorthodox Behavior
Posted By: micky
Subject: 2nd Round Classics: Darwin v. Unorthodox Behavior
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 08:24
next up... 


From Italy.. the incomparable Banco!! ClapClap

reviewed by the equally incomparible Jim! ClapClap

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1801" rel="nofollow">Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin! CD (album) cover

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1801" rel="nofollow - DARWIN!

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=36" rel="nofollow - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso

 

Rock Progressivo Italiano

4.37 | 829 ratings

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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=12042" rel="nofollow"> http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=12042" rel="nofollow - Finnforest
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5 stars A second Banco masterpiece, an RPI monster

One of the most important RPI bands of all time managed to follow their incredible self-titled debut with another masterpiece. And of their ridiculously strong opening trilogy of albums, "Darwin" in my book is their most challenging, and perhaps their strongest, most rewarding title. "Darwin" is a true "masterpiece of progressive rock" as far as I'm concerned, a concept album which given its birthdate of 1972 proved the Italian scene was every bit as dynamic and adventurous as what the English heavy hitters were offering in the period. Banco is perhaps their most challenging on "Darwin", pushing limits more than they did on the debut. Here things feel more complex, baroque, intense, perhaps losing a bit of the warmth and sentimental aspects I noted in the melodies of the debut. But the consistency and excitment for the listener are at least equal if not a bit ramped up here. "Darwin" offers beginning to end chills, with a slightly darker feel, and a heavy dose of what I would call the "spirit of RPI."

They waste no time, the 14-opener "L'Evoluzione" is a stunner in the RPI arsenal, perhaps one of the greatest tracks of the subgenre. Again I mention the creeping baroque feel here presented with dramatic, bold vocals, thunderous keyboard crashes, and a very unique electric lead guitar style. Marcello Todaro plays without obvious influence, completely original in the way he bathes the compositions in an expressive, nimble, "flittering" note picking style. Sometimes he reminds me of the punchy leads Howe gave us in the wilder sections of Topographic Oceans and Relayer. The band is fantastically energetic, brash, and tight---this band features superb playing with little sloppiness that I can detect. The tracks consistently deliver a high level of composition with grand keyboard experimentation and thick gutsy bass playing. There are wandering, playful meditations on piano that veer into the jazzy realms. Later in the album another standout track is "750,000 Anni Fa....L'Amore." This track features a truly legendary vocal by Francesco Di Giacomo that is full of life, passion, and sad longing. He can literally break your heart singing about an unfulfilled love. The piano melodies behind him are just drop-dead gorgeous, the epitome of a beautiful Italian musical vibe, and likely the album's calmest, most directly emotional moment. I wouldn't call the album instantly accessible for every progger, it has depths to it that require several listens to fully appreciate---but the rewards are there for the willing.

"Darwin" is as essential to an RPI collection as Relayer or Selling England are to your English prog collection. It rounds out my personal "suggested sampler" of the Italian "big 3" along with "Felona e Sorona" and "Storia di un Minuto." There are so many lesser-known RPI titles that occupy the special shelf in my prog collection, and I generally prefer some of these lesser-known groups for some reason. But if you wish to start with the more widely known bands, you can't go wrong with Banco's masterpiece "Darwin."


and in the opposite corner... yet another fusion album.  Great review btw. Almost enough to get me to revisit it. I might just do that in fact.

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3473" rel="nofollow">Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour CD (album) cover

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3473" rel="nofollow - UNORTHODOX BEHAVIOUR

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=660" rel="nofollow - Brand X

 

Jazz Rock/Fusion

4.12 | 260 ratings

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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=8096" rel="nofollow"> http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=8096" rel="nofollow - Tarcisio Moura
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4 stars I bought this album solely because I´m a Genesis freak and decided I had to listen to everything their members were involved in, musically speaking. But I should warn anyone reading this review that I´m not a jazz rock/fusion fan. To really grab my atention it has to be something special, like Bill Brufford´s frist solo work, for exemple. In my opinion jazz rock always meant too much technique and little feeling. Or, as we say in Brazil, it is music for musicians.

So I approached this CD with caution, since it is labeled under that banner. And a fusion outfit they are, for sure, but that said, I also should point out that those guys are outstanding instrumentalists. Phil Collins is really a brilliant drummer. And a lot of the songs here are well above what you hear from jazz rock bands in general. As a whole I think this band, like Mahavishnu Orchestra and a few others, went beyond that genre´s boundaries and truly deserve to be in the under the progressive umbrella. Tracks like Born Ugly are quite prog rock and it successfully avoids most fusion cliches. Most of the stuff here is quite pleasant and has some really interesting, rich arrangements and the playing is nothing less than superb. Those guys really cook. the title track is quite experimental and one of the best prog-jazz works I´ve seen in years.

I was glad to find this band after all this time. They´ve surpassed my expectations and I´m looking forward to hear Unorthodox Behaviour´s follow up. Very strong debut indeed. If you´re interested in knowing a good, progressive jazz rock band and is not a real fan of the style, try this album. It might surprises you like it did to me. Four stars.








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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 08:29
Both great albums, but I went with Brand X high water mark.

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 09:06
Darwin! but only by a bit.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 09:49
Man this is a close one for me, I think i'll give it to Brand X.

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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 09:55
Pl count my vote for Darwin.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 10:21
That was a frickin great Brand X review.. and since I only gave the album the slightest chance to catch with me before letting my general distain for fusion get the better of me...  I'll give it a refresher listen. Normally it wouldn't make a difference.  However this Banco album is actually my least favorite of all their classic albums.  Plus Banco was always my least favorite of the big 6 of Italian prog.  It would have to really be better than I remember to take the vote.. but it is open which says enough considering my love for RPI in general and generally antipathy to fusion.


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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 10:22
Banco, always.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 10:35
Darwin!

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 10:37
Darwin!

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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 10:39
Banco

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 13:19
Thanks to the polls I tried out Brand X again, some weeks ago, and I actually liked it. Good stuff!
But to be honest... Banco's Darwin is really something special.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 13:24
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Thanks to the polls I tried out Brand X again, some weeks ago, and I actually liked it. Good stuff!
But to be honest... Banco's Darwin is really something special.


I am going to try it again myself. It has been a number of years since I've listened to them.  It really isn't my kind of thing.


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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 14:56
Banco. But I rate Brand X very high.


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 16:10
^^^
Seconded


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 16:55
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Both great albums, but I went with Brand X high water mark.

DITTO Clap


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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 17:11

Banco's first three albums blow me away from the first listen. So, Darwin, +1.



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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 18:53
Brand X.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 25 2015 at 20:13
Darwin!
I return to my BDMS albums more often than my Brand X ones.


Posted By: Skalla-Grim
Date Posted: July 26 2015 at 07:22
Clearly Darwin ... Brand X have never totally convinced me.


Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: July 26 2015 at 09:34
Two good bands but I'm leaning toward jazz/rock/fusion.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 27 2015 at 05:07
Darwin

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 27 2015 at 05:08
Where's Harmonium, dude?

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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 27 2015 at 05:55
My favourite Brand X but it is no match for Banco, not even close.


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: July 27 2015 at 17:08
Banco! I prefer the next Brand X album(Moroccan Roll) to Unorthodox Behaviour. Banco would have still won though.


Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: July 28 2015 at 18:50
Got the Brand X on vinyl but havn't listened to it in many a year. Maybe I should give UB another listen but I'm afraid it's Darwin for me in this poll.


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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: July 28 2015 at 21:44
Unorthodox Behavior


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 29 2015 at 19:59
Darwin

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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: July 29 2015 at 21:23

Brand X, Unorthodox Behaviour.



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When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 30 2015 at 20:28
Brand X


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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 02 2015 at 02:55
Unorthodox Behavior (1976) - Brand X



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