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Topic: Vola for Heavy Prog
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Subject: Vola for Heavy Prog
Date Posted: July 28 2015 at 17:06
Has there been any motion to include Denmark's band VOLA for their amazing new release Inmazes? They sound very much as if MEW, TEARS FOR FEARS or DEPECHE MODE had gone djent/metal. Awesome music, awesome vocals, awesome composition, awesome production. Odd blend of styles but IT WORKS!

Check them out at bandcamp:  https://volaband.bandcamp.com/album/inmazes

And get them on PA fast! I want to post my review!



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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: July 31 2015 at 14:41
More metallic so added to PM charts

We will get them on PA if you agree to do the bio and addition if cleared Wink


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 19:49
Are you talkin' to me?! Are you talkin' to ME?!

Is this my baptism? (by fire!) Write a bio. Okay. Challenge accepted. I will write a bio for Vola. Do I submit it here, to you privately, or on the PM collaborators' thread? 

And then there's the question of the "addition." HOW???!!! I haven't a CLUE as to how to "upload" or "add" something to this monstrous site except as posts like this!



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 19:52
For now just thoughtlessly pass it off to a teammate who has five stars and they'll do the addition and quit the team in a few months due to overwork and burnout.   But that's PA !   It's romantic and tragic at once, and at least we get something done.










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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 20:30
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

For now just thoughtlessly pass it off to a teammate who has five stars and they'll do the addition and quit the team in a few months due to overwork and burnout.   But that's PA !   It's romantic and tragic at once, and at least we get something done.

Hey! I'm serious! I'll give it a shot! I've already started--Facebooked the band to ask for their input. Copied and pasted their own bios from Facebook, their webpage and bandcamp. I'm not experienced at importing photos or links but I can learn. . . . I think.



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 20:32
I know you're serious, and so was I (with a strong dash of sarcasm).    Any 5 star on your team will not mind making the addition at all.



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 20:56
Okay this is ALL new to me. I'm really sorry to be just another f*%king newbie that you guys have to train, but I'm just another newbie. Somebody's got to help me out. Is there a page or tutorial or checklist new collabs can go to for help?

What is a "5 star"? (For that matter, what are the significance of the stars under our names & titles?) And Who is Kaiser Soze?



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 21:18
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73146" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73146

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47597" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47597

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13080" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13080

A 5-star is anyone here with five of those shiny gold things above your avatar.   You have four, so you can't access the top-secret Additions Page.   But with hard work I've no doubt you will!



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 22:23
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73146" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73146

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47597" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47597

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13080" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13080

A 5-star is anyone here with five of those shiny gold things above your avatar.   You have four, so you can't access the top-secret Additions Page.   But with hard work I've no doubt you will!


I have to pay closer attention to your posts, Atavachron. You're quite silly!


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 03 2015 at 22:58
Note:  A 5-star on the team that the handles the subgenre this artist is accepted in would do the addition.   So if it's decided they're metal, then the Progmetal guys would handle it, etc.   But you can still write the bio.



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 19:25
I errantly submitted the VOLA bio to my CANT/JR/F Mosh Pit page. Here it is for you guys, aapatsos & Atavachron:



Danish experimental rock band VOLA features Asger MYGIND on vocals and guitar, Nicolai MOGENSON on bass, Martin WERNER on keyboards and programming, and Felix EWERT on drums. The Copenhagen-based quartet grew out of a common interest in eclectic, groove-oriented music which draws inspiration ranging from 70's progressive rock to modern day electronica, industrial and extreme metal. 

     VOLA's music exists in a borderline area of rock that is as high-flying (the name “vola” means “flying” in Italian) and melodically fulfilling as it is itchy and heavy. The band forms quirky trails of distorted ‘djenty’ bass and 7-string guitars—tuned to each other in played in the same octave—entangling synth lines and constantly groove-driven drums that play up against wide vocal harmonies and deep-blue-textured electronica. 

VOLA took its first baby steps about ten years ago when vocalist/guitarist Asger started jamming and writing music in the Gymnasium of Birkerod (a Copenhagen suburb) with a few friends. It wasn’t until the EP Homesick Machinery in 2008 hat things started to get really serious. Apart from Asger and keyboardist, Martin, the lineup was different back then and the sound was more hard rock-ish.

     It was on Monsters in 2011 that VOLA started using down-tuned 7-string guitars and the sound got heavier than their initial hard rock sound. By that time bassist Nicolai had been in the band for some time and drummer Felix had joined recently. The band believes that their mutual understanding and attraction towards similar music is what helps them progress into a new genre and write such coherent music. The process of making all the instruments compliment each other perfectly is another point that brings about the best about VOLA. They like to consider the bass and guitars as one instrument and are thus tuned to the same octave. The guitars form the meat of the sound while the bass is the bone. VOLA believes that it’s all about the perfect punch and all of this just adds such an intensified punchyness to one-note riffing. Asger adds, “When you add a kick-drum to this you get a very satisfactory, meaty sound. The keyboards are a great tool for building orchestrations around the sparse harmonics of the riffs. While the riff notes might suggest different chords, the keyboards can easily substantiate these chords and make the soundscape much bigger”.

    After the release of a well-received EP in 2011, “Monsters,”  VOLA finally released their debut full-length studio album, “Inmazes,” on the 2nd of February 2015. For lovers of MESHUGGAH, TOOL, and PROGHMA-C if they don't mind the melding of DEPECHE MODE, TEARS FOR FEARS and NEW ORDER into the mix.

Check out the band's website here: http://www.volaband.com/



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 08 2015 at 16:28
So, where does this band belong. Here is a list of the bands who, in my opinion, sound the most like them and where PA has placed them:

Meshuggah:  Tech/Extreme Prog Metal

Leprous:  Tech/Extreme Prog Metal

Tool:  Experimental/Post Metal

The Gabriel Construct:  Experimental/Post Metal

Karnivool:  Heavy Prog

Taylor Watson:  Progressive Metal

Distorted Harmony:  Progressive Metal



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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 05:12
brufordfreak : Vola have been rejected from the PM team, so they will not be included in PA

http://progfreak.com/aapatsos-111296.html" rel="nofollow - aapatsos http://progfreak.com/Vola-164279.html?path=pm/all" rel="nofollow - Metal -> Rejected



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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 07:57
How fair is it, that someone made the effort of providing a bio, if the band is later rejected ?

How about:

1. "Blind" listen and vote
2. Avail + agree on style if band OK
3. Write bio and
4. Finalize addition


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 08:26
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

brufordfreak : Vola have been rejected from the PM team, so they will not be included in PA

http://progfreak.com/aapatsos-111296.html" rel="nofollow - aapatsos http://progfreak.com/Vola-164279.html?path=pm/all" rel="nofollow - Metal -> Rejected


Wow! I am shocked! The #1 ranked album on another respected (at least, I think they are respected) progressive rock site (ProgSphere) can't find a place on PA! Headlining at at recent Euroblast with Between the Buried and me, Haken, Cynic, Leprous, Monuments, et al. and then with Pagan's Mind, Leprous, Myrath, and Enchant in at Prog Power in Germany. What's up? 


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 12:59
Originally posted by jayem jayem wrote:

How fair is it, that someone made the effort of providing a bio, if the band is later rejected ?


To be fair, I'm fairly certain they didn't know Vola would end up being rejectedWink
Things happen.




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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 14:04
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by jayem jayem wrote:

How fair is it, that someone made the effort of providing a bio, if the band is later rejected ?


To be fair, I'm fairly certain they didn't know Vola would end up being rejectedWink
Things happen.




You could send your suggestion to the Metal music archives :

http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/


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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 14:47
Originally posted by jayem jayem wrote:

How fair is it, that someone made the effort of providing a bio, if the band is later rejected ?

How about:

1. "Blind" listen and vote
2. Avail + agree on style if band OK
3. Write bio and
4. Finalize addition


Please refer to my previous post Smile

Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

More metallic so added to PM charts

We will get them on PA if you agree to do the bio and addition if cleared Wink



Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 15:11
I misread indeed! and bow down to all those efforts in listening + managing.

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Posted By: darksinger
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 15:13
What is ETA for a band being added once it is suggested?

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 15:20
Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:


What is ETA for a band being added once it is suggested?


It depends really. On a lot of different things but mostly on whether or not the team in question has a lot on it's plate.
Some times bands get added very swiftly other times it can take a while.



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 17:06
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by jayem jayem wrote:

How fair is it, that someone made the effort of providing a bio, if the band is later rejected ?


To be fair, I'm fairly certain they didn't know Vola would end up being rejectedWink
Things happen.



I'm sure. And I DID see aapatsos' "if" on the original response to my first query, so I knew it was possible. I'm just confused . . . I thought I knew what "progressive rock music" was . . . I guess I don't . . . .


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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 17:19
^ everyone has different perspectives. VOLA are indeed a very interesting act (at least for me) and what they do sounds fairly different/innovative (again, speaking for me). However, I think the team did not found enough actual "prog" in their music (there might be some progressive elements) to warrant inclusion.

I was personally unsure but there were no positive votes from any of the team members which I think tells a lot.



Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 09 2015 at 17:19
Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

brufordfreak : Vola have been rejected from the PM team, so they will not be included in PA

http://progfreak.com/aapatsos-111296.html" rel="nofollow - aapatsos http://progfreak.com/Vola-164279.html?path=pm/all" rel="nofollow - Metal -> Rejected


To say that they will not be included in PA because they were rejected by the PM team is not necessarily true, is it? There are other teams that have picked up bands like Vola:  Experimental/Post Metal have Tool and The Gabriel Construct; Tech/Extreme Metal have Meshuggah and Leprous.


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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 10 2015 at 02:03
^ the PM team covers all metal genres...


Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: October 10 2015 at 03:41
Metal Music archives covers all metal genres i presume.... You can send a suggestion for Vola in the Forum :
in this section : http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=1&title=suggest-new-bands-artists-to-mma" rel="nofollow - Suggest new bands/artists to MMA



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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 10 2015 at 21:21
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

^ everyone has different perspectives. VOLA are indeed a very interesting act (at least for me) and what they do sounds fairly different/innovative (again, speaking for me). However, I think the team did not found enough actual "prog" in their music (there might be some progressive elements) to warrant inclusion.

I was personally unsure but there were no positive votes from any of the team members which I think tells a lot.


Thank you, Thanos. 

I am saddened but . . . life goes on.


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 10 2015 at 21:22
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

^ the PM team covers all metal genres...

I did not know this--though I had kind of figured it out when l went looking for other collaborator groups to send VOLA to.Embarrassed


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Posted By: haklepola
Date Posted: October 18 2015 at 16:55
I am very surprised and also disappointed that Vola is not seen as "Prog" by the wonderful people that run ProgArchives. I am Progfan since 30 years, I love everything from old school Progrock, old Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Gentle Giant (and many more) to Progmetal from Rush, Dream Theater, Symphony X, Pain of Salvation, Opeth (and many more). But there is a "new wave" of Progressive Rock/Metal occurring since a couple of years that is transcending the boundaries to alleged "non-prog" music especially originating in 80ies pop. But undoubtedly this is music with a metal and a prog edge. Bands like Leprous, Caligula's Horse, even Haken and, of course, VOLA, are incredibly brutal, experimental (innovative) and beautiful at the same time. VOLA's album Inmazes alone is - in this perspective - more Prog than the last 3,4 Dream Theater albums (and i am a big, big Dream Theater fan, have seen them more than 20 times live). Therefore I ask you to reconsider the decision to exclude VOLA from ProgArchives. Just my 2 cents!Smile


Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: October 18 2015 at 23:10
there is nothing of Progressive Rock aesthetic in their music. that smooth, one-dimensional mixture of Hard Rock guitar riffs and Dream Pop vocals, thats pretty far from Prog.
 
 
 
It's a gifted band without a doubt, it is the music that is so pleasant to listening to that we can say even that the Vola is a "radio-friendly" band, but it's not Prog Rock at all.
 


Posted By: haklepola
Date Posted: October 19 2015 at 16:59
If we always knew "in advance" (or by a written or unwritten proglaw) - and for eternity - what the real nature of "prog" is, progressive Rock and Metal could never exist because transcending or pushing the boundaries in popular (Rock and Metal) music would never be possible (or is allowed but could not be filed under Prog ironically). Rock and Metal music, in this case, only exist and will exist as regressive Rock/Metal, even in "Prog". To give you an example: Indeed, Neal Morse Band and Dream Theater are now, 2015, "regressive" Rock and Metal in this sense (and I still like it a lot despite it is incredibly boring). Vola, on the other hand, is fresh, innovative, it is polyrhythmic, it has melodic counterpoints, it has 70ies and 80ies vibes, and it is (still) so "Metal" that you can bang your head...Smile Most important, as a criterion for Prog, it pushes the boundaries in Metal music by making Meshuggah riffs radio-friendly....


Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: October 19 2015 at 20:51

^^^^ i can see that you are a big, big fan of VOLA [i think so because it's quite rarely that a newbie with zero posts came straight to this subforum just to ask that already rejected band have to be reconsidered again] so you are free to write a whole book about VOLA as a hardcore fan of the band, but it can not put VOLA in the Prog Archives until VOLA eventually change their music direction towards Progressive Rock [what i dont believe that will happen in a near future due to the fact that currently they are too far from Prog].



Posted By: tbonson04
Date Posted: October 19 2015 at 22:29
Too far from prog? I'm sorry your outdated narrow view of prog doesn't find relevance in the modern age. It must difficult to know your unchanging, antiquated, and stubborn views on music reflect the very ideas prog music tries to defy. It is your right to believe Vola is not prog, but don't belittle people for believing they are.


Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: October 19 2015 at 22:51

^^^^ 8 posts?! hey man you're four times bigger connoisseur regards what is / what is not PA material than you colleague who wrote 2 posts in total at the PA Forum in this very moment!LOL



Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 19 2015 at 22:57
A+

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Posted By: tbonson04
Date Posted: October 19 2015 at 23:01
Just shows how sad your life is that you judge the quality of a person on the amount of posts they create on a website. I judge you on your comments. The quality of person you reveal yourself to be is that of a feeble troll who derives his false sense of superiority from ineffectual means. Have fun with your sad life.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 20 2015 at 00:12
Well there you go taking it too far and becoming a hypocrite.

I'm pretty sure Shamal's post was sincere and you turn around and look like an asshat. Great work. 


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Posted By: haklepola
Date Posted: October 20 2015 at 15:49
I didn't know that having and articulating an opinion is not well received as long as you don't have at least xxx posts at this holy prog website. Therefore, dear Shamal, please tell me how many posts I have to write exactly until I am accepted to articulate an opinion. However, why you take my claim to consider VOLA as Prog so serious? I have no problem to accept the decision to not include VOLA in your precious archive, trust me (it was a kind of democratic decision I suppose). But I like to express an opinion and I also like to argue with fellow Progfans. It's fun to deliberate on Prog issues as long as you don't insult others - and I really don't want to insult people with other opinions than me. And I am a big fan of Prog music in general, not only VOLA (the two bands I like most at the moment are LEPROUS and HAKEN, by the way). Conciliatory proposal: Couldn't we find a compromise that VOLA is "prog-related" somehow?


Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: October 20 2015 at 20:11

^^^^nope.



Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: October 21 2015 at 04:38
There are very subtle patterns, and structures are more complex that in typical pop songs indeed. 

Maybe it cannot be called prog because the main line and main beats are very much emphasized, while in prog non-lead lines, along with subbeats, are relatively enhanced.

Provided we agree on calling their style "Prog Power/Heavy Pop" :

If it were "Pop Power Heavy Prog"  it'd be prog.
If it is "Prog Power/Heavy Pop" it'll be classified in the prog subgenres of pop.

Well ?... 

Anyway many prog lovers are likely to enjoy that music; so why not create a "Prog Pop" thread in the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=41" rel="nofollow - General Music Discussions  


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Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: October 21 2015 at 05:41
for example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aK3hF3bVPs" rel="nofollow - Destiny Potato are far more complex than VOLA and yet the Destiny Potato's lead guitarist David Maxim Micic is already in the Prog Archives' Progressive Metal section as a solo artist as well, but Destiny Potato are also [heavy] Pop not Prog, so unanimously rejected for the Prog Archives.


Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: October 21 2015 at 09:19
On one hand... they sound a bit like Mew and a couple lighter prog metal bands, but they definitely have a more commercial sound. There's no extremely odd compositional choices, a couple 'proggy' parts but it doesn't feel like an integral part of their sound.

I would say to keep a seriously close eye on them because they are teetering between prog and not, though they aren't famous enough to be considered for 'prog-related.' I would say their inclusion would be determined by their next release and what direction they decide to take.


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wtf


Posted By: tbonson04
Date Posted: October 21 2015 at 09:32
Very good point. I'm a huge fan of Vola and can settle for that. My expectations for their next album are high anyway. I think we can expect to see more complex arrangements and less focus on the singer. 


Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: October 21 2015 at 10:32
re VOLA's steps in the future, i think that VOLA are the band who sincerely aspire for a certain mainstreamy popularity, that they already found their distinctive HEAVY POP style and that they are actually happy with their current style and 'feel', that they know very well how good they are at their own style and that their fan base grows, so they dont need any Prog. so i doubt that their next album will be Prog. But we'll see after all.
personally, I REALLY DO WISH all the best to VOLA in their future plans - WHATEVER IT IS.


Posted By: tbonson04
Date Posted: October 21 2015 at 13:07
True, but like most bands in the genre that boarders prog (karnivool, rishloo, etc) there is a trend to stear to more prog tendencies after a breakthrough album. Judging on the band alone, there is a somewhat high likelihood to stay the same, but judging overall in the genre, there is a higher likelihood they will go the way of prog. 


Posted By: backtothegarden
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 08:26
I just want them to write another good record.  

One can only hope that they are completely indifferent to the whims of those who define a genre, which, by its very nature, ignores boundaries and definitions.  In this light, this type of rejection is an accomplishment.

Inmazes is a great album.  Buy it now, without listening to it.  Oh wait, it's free.  Even better.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:53
Prog is not a badge of honour you know. In fact most members on here love all kinds of different genres/styles. Just because something is to one's liking and vaguely experimental doesn't necessarily mean that it's prog.....the music doesn't lose anything by it. We are after all merely talking stickers here.
....and this is coming from a Dane who really digs Vola yet at the same time doesn't feel they fit on PA. I really dig The Fall as well, which were and are a lot more experimental and progressive in their approach to rock, yet don't really fit in on PA either.



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