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3rd Rd. Classics: Illusions on v. Birds of Fire

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Topic: 3rd Rd. Classics: Illusions on v. Birds of Fire
Posted By: micky
Subject: 3rd Rd. Classics: Illusions on v. Birds of Fire
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 08:52
I need to pick up the pace or this will take all day...

next up... Triumvirat Clap The surprise of the classic.. perhaps of the whole album tournament...



and opposing them...  arggg..  still pissed about this one..




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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 08:55
The Byrds


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 08:57
These are pretty close for me, I like both but I don't love 'em. Going with the underdog, Illusions.

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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 09:01
Tough one. Voted for Triumvirat.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 09:09
Ohmmm mani padme om

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 10:11
voting for the 'rat! and against M.O.. easy vote then

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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 10:17
I VOTED ON TRIUMVIRAT JUST BECAUSE YOU f**kING GUYS DIDNT VOTE ON LAST POLL IN AREA' ARBEIT MACHT FREI AND NOW I WANT TO SEE THOSE BIRDS ON FIRE!!!!!!!


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 11:36
Triumvirat was always just ok in my book but MO with Birds of Fire is stunning when it comes to fusion.
Birds it is.


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 11:40
Birds of Fire


Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 12:34
Triumvirat just. Much prefer The Inner Mounting Flame to Birds of Fire.


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 12:46
Triumvirat by a long shot. i like Birds Of Fire, but Illusions is a big reason why T'rat are my favorite band.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 12:52
Originally posted by GKR GKR wrote:

I VOTED ON TRIUMVIRAT JUST BECAUSE YOU f**kING GUYS DIDNT VOTE ON LAST POLL IN AREA' ARBEIT MACHT FREI AND NOW I WANT TO SEE THOSE BIRDS ON FIRE!!!!!!!


*prepare for bad Mick*

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLClap


I would have voted for Celine Dion over Mahavishnu Orch on this one.. after that SHAM of a 2nd round result.  One a simply fusion band... talented yes... creative? give me a f**king break.. the other a delightful mix of just as powerful fusion, just as equal talent, and mix the meaningful political message of 70's conflict and turmoil and pure bliss of Mediterranean influences. 

Which one this forum select? No wonder this forum gets mocked on other sites.  Expand your minds people!!! LOL


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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:02
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the other a delightful mix of just as powerful fusion, just as equal talent, and mix the meaningful political message of 70's conflict and turmoil and pure bliss of Mediterranean influences.

aannnd.... the experimental and still unique vocals of Demetrio Stratos. They were gods among the earth. Simply put.

Bah, I'am gonna grab a beer and try stop worring.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:05
I'm 4 ahead of you...better catch up.

Just remember the Mcexpression...

bah.... 


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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:07
Dont worry, I drink fast. Wink


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:13
Originally posted by GKR GKR wrote:

Dont worry, I drink fast. Wink


now you are the one turning me on....


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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:20
I knew this moment would come. LOL


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:30
Wink  I never said I was hard to get.. only hard to keep.. Raff would have my heart cut out in a heartbeat.. she is as open-minded and liberal as I am.. but don't think she would be any less pissed if it was you versus some redhead with f**k me eyes....

trust me.. she's shown me the knife LOL


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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:35
LOL
We have to meet some day, thats for sure!


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:41
Embarrassed I think I'm blushing....


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 13:42
A vote for the rat

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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 14:22
Mahavishnu Orchestra.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 14:24
MO for me.


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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 14:43
First listen to Illusions On A Double Dimple. I liked it, though I think it was a bit slim on the ideas in places (but a lot of that moog/organ/guitar prog is), some really nice playing, I even enjoyed the vocals. Less so the spoken word stuff. I reckon MO blow it out of the water, though. Cobham is unstoppable.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 08 2015 at 17:29
MO

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Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 03:42
Birds, one of my first favourite albums.


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 09:32
Birds of Fire


Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 12:17
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Birds of Fire


Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 12:31
Give me some MO!

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 13:38
A vote for Doug's fave
MO is in my humble opinion one of the pioneers of the fusion sickness called 'all chops and no sauce'.

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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 14:37
Like both,wud sit on this one...


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 14:44
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

A vote for the rat


Yes, Triumph-eye-ratt


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 14:49
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


MO is in my humble opinion one of the pioneers of the fusion sickness called 'all chops and no sauce'.


damn right man! Clap

and just how did Area lose this this group LOL.. who had plenty of sauce... in addition to having one of the greatest vocalists EVER.

bah....


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 16:53
Birds of Fire

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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 18:12
The Germans!!

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Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: August 10 2015 at 02:28
I'm with the chops and sauceless brigade on this one. Triumverat need to knobble their drummer but its still the Prog album for me. I fear the MOs will get there but hey at least it should be close.


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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: August 10 2015 at 02:39
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


MO is in my humble opinion one of the pioneers of the fusion sickness called 'all chops and no sauce'.


damn right man! Clap

and just how did Area lose this this group LOL.. who had plenty of sauce... in addition to having one of the greatest vocalists EVER.

bah....


MO always had an atmosphere and structure to the twitchiness that set them apart from the Al Di Meola/solo Bruford calibre of proficient fusion. Also Cobham is one of the greatest drummers EVER.


Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 10 2015 at 14:15
Birds of Fire.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 11 2015 at 03:04
Illusions on a Double Dimple, the best album that ever came from Germany.

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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: August 11 2015 at 12:53
Close, but went with Illusions.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 11 2015 at 15:04
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


MO is in my humble opinion one of the pioneers of the fusion sickness called 'all chops and no sauce'.


damn right man! Clap

and just how did Area lose this this group LOL.. who had plenty of sauce... in addition to having one of the greatest vocalists EVER.

bah....


MO always had an atmosphere and structure to the twitchiness that set them apart from the Al Di Meola/solo Bruford calibre of proficient fusion. Also Cobham is one of the greatest drummers EVER.
Somewhat. But imo early Weather Report and countless other brilliant 1969-1972 jazzrockfusion-albums has so much more of atmosphere and structure combined that MO, Bruford and Meola and most PA-faves are just blocking the view 


Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: August 11 2015 at 17:49
Maybe I need to go back and have another listen to MO but while I always found Weather Report to be exceptionally enjoyable MO left me cold, despite them being an absolutely wonderful bunch of individual musicians. Maybe its all the spiritual garbage that buggers it up. I mean, how is it that JSB can absolutely nail it with St Mathew Passion yet when modern musos go spiritual there brains turn to mulch ? Hari bloody Krishna my arse.


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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: August 13 2015 at 15:38
Triumvirat


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 13 2015 at 19:10
MO, but both are a bit meh.


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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: August 13 2015 at 21:25
Triumvirat

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 14 2015 at 15:20
ohhh... the 'rat is hanging close...


get those last votes in people!!!  Still too close to call.. we've had some albums make up a 3 vote deficit in the last hours...


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 14 2015 at 15:41
Birds of Fire for me - excellent album!


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 14 2015 at 15:43
Thumbs DownAngryLOL


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 14 2015 at 16:13
Birds.   Firstly, it was a far more innovative album than Dimple.   Second, that performance is one of the most scorching and beautifully spontaneous ones in rock/fusion history.   Many prefer the debut but I think the band gelled on BoF, a record you could digest without too many trips to the bathroom.

Must review that.  Approve





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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 14 2015 at 18:42
bah...LOL

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 14 2015 at 18:45
^ I'm surprised, you usually dig the less polished stuff.   Then again, you likes your symph (and your ELP), so it makes sense.



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Posted By: symphonicman
Date Posted: August 15 2015 at 00:00

Triumvirat, Illusions on a Double Dimple.



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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 17:11
Birds of Fire

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 23:19
Birds Of Fire



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