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Topic: Places a prog fan should visit in London.
Posted By: pedrinho
Subject: Places a prog fan should visit in London.
Date Posted: September 19 2015 at 06:25
Hey guys!
Next week I'm traveling to London to assist to the Seteven Wilson's show on the Royal Albert Hall. 
I'm travelling from Spain and I don't know any specific place to visit (besides what every tourist visits there), can you tell me some places that every prog fan should visit in London? Any vinyl store? Pub? You know what I mean.

I'm looking forward to reading your answers!



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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: September 19 2015 at 16:30
Gotta admit I was thrilled to see the Battersea Power Station on my first visit to London, two years ago...definitely off the tourist trail, but very cool, even without the inflatable pigs..!


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 19 2015 at 18:48
..except they are currently rebuilding it so some of the chimneys are missing

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 21 2015 at 07:25
Fopp in Shaftesbury Avenue is quite good for cheap prog CDs.


Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 05:56
Apart from the live concert venues (that are still left), you might want to be a 'Baker Street' muse or go to Leicester Square.  If you are an ELP fan, you might want to walk by the Serpentine.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 07:58
Disappointingly London has a paucity of Prog heritage sites. 

Certainly Ladbroke Grove bears no mention of the Underground Scene that flourished there forty years ago (then you'll not find anything about the the Canterbury Movement in Canterbury either), Carnaby Street has nothing of the Psychedelic hippy flea markets that made it famous, Tin Pan Alley left Denmark Street nearly a quarter century ago and Heddon Street looks nothing like the cover of Ziggy Stardust. Fortunately, Abbey Road still has a zebra crossing if you find yourself in Regents Park and want to recreate an iconic album cover - just remember to park a VW beetle in the appropriate place.


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 08:13
The Elfin Tree in Kensington Gardens. The picture of David Gilmour inside the Ummagumma album cover was taken there.

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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 08:26
Camberwell - now?


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 10:16
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Fortunately, Abbey Road still has a zebra crossing if you find yourself in Regents Park and want to recreate an iconic album cover - just remember to park a VW beetle in the appropriate place.
Talking of Abbey Road, you can get a good minibus tour of Beatle-related places from a place in Leicester Square. It goes down Baker Street, past Macca's place (he was out) and on to Abbey Road where you can get run over on the zebra crossing if you're not careful. Definitely worth it if you're a fan.
 
There's also the Coal Hole in the Strand where I've had a few beers with Blacksword and Simon Godfrey of Tinyfish fame, whilst having an in-depth discussion on Hawkwind albums. That's prog-related.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 10:41
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Fortunately, Abbey Road still has a zebra crossing if you find yourself in Regents Park and want to recreate an iconic album cover - just remember to park a VW beetle in the appropriate place.
Talking of Abbey Road, you can get a good minibus tour of Beatle-related places from a place in Leicester Square. It goes down Baker Street, past Macca's place (he was out) and on to Abbey Road where you can get run over on the zebra crossing if you're not careful. Definitely worth it if you're a fan.
I presume it goes past 3 Savile Row, the site of Apple Corps and the Beatles's last live performance.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 12:37
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Fortunately, Abbey Road still has a zebra crossing if you find yourself in Regents Park and want to recreate an iconic album cover - just remember to park a VW beetle in the appropriate place.
Talking of Abbey Road, you can get a good minibus tour of Beatle-related places from a place in Leicester Square. It goes down Baker Street, past Macca's place (he was out) and on to Abbey Road where you can get run over on the zebra crossing if you're not careful. Definitely worth it if you're a fan.
I presume it goes past 3 Savile Row, the site of Apple Corps and the Beatles's last live performance.

Indeed it does. And the Bag O'Nails where Hendrix played.


Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 12:38
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Fortunately, Abbey Road still has a zebra crossing if you find yourself in Regents Park and want to recreate an iconic album cover - just remember to park a VW beetle in the appropriate place.
Talking of Abbey Road, you can get a good minibus tour of Beatle-related places from a place in Leicester Square. It goes down Baker Street, past Macca's place (he was out) and on to Abbey Road where you can get run over on the zebra crossing if you're not careful. Definitely worth it if you're a fan.
 
There's also the Coal Hole in the Strand where I've had a few beers with Blacksword and Simon Godfrey of Tinyfish fame, whilst having an in-depth discussion on Hawkwind albums. That's prog-related.
 
so it's worth getting run over only if you are a real fan?  I'm not going to bother otherwise.


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 12:48
Bournemouth, England - boyhood home to both Fripp and Wetton.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 13:45
Ermm I take it you've never actually been to Bournemouth... LOL


I'm not sure Fripp every lived in Bournemouth as such, he haled from Wimborne 30 miles to the north¹. I believe he did have (and later give) guitar lessons at Don Strike's music shop in Westbourne (a suburb of Bournemouth).


¹For those of you that live on a large land-mass where you have to travel twice that distance to buy a carton of milk from your "local" convenience store this may appear to be practically the same place, but for the average Brit a town 30 miles away would be a foreign land (hell, some of them aren't aware we live on an island, while many have seen the coast few have seen more than two of the four available).


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 14:17
As I'v been in London many times as a tourist, so I suggest The Ship pub at Walbour Wardour Street, Soho, as a "rock pub" aswell. It was existed in 70s and many musicians of the era were refreshing themselfs at The Ship.
 
 
 
 
http://shipsoho.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://shipsoho.co.uk/


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 14:32
^ although it might be best to try Wardour Street instead. You would have a far better chance of finding said watering hole.

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 14:40
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

^ although it might be best to try Wardour Street instead. You would have a far better chance of finding said watering hole.
Thank you. And sorry for that terribly lapsus linguae.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 15:19
As a tourist to another tourist, I'd like to suggest to the OP also that Solusbury Pub, at Kilburn, for a dinner because of the great food and an unique atmosphere. 











Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 15:22
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Ermm I take it you've never actually been to Bournemouth... LOL


<span style="line-height: 1.4;">I'm not sure Fripp every lived in Bournemouth as such, he haled from Wimborne 30 miles to the north¹. I believe he did have (and later give) guitar lessons at Don Strike's music shop in Westbourne (a suburb of Bournemouth).</span>
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<span style="line-height: 1.4;">¹For those of you that live on a large land-mass where you have to travel twice that distance to buy a carton of milk from your "local" convenience store this may appear to be practically the same place, but for the average Brit a town 30 miles away would be a </span>foreign<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> land (hell, some of them aren't aware we live on an island, while many have seen the coast few have seen more than two of the four available).</span>

I've never been to Poughkeepsie.

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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 16:47
London Bridge, oh wait we bought that pile of rocks



Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 18:10
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

^ although it might be best to try Wardour Street instead. You would have a far better chance of finding said watering hole.
 
Isn't Wardour Street where that great Chinese restaurant is?  The one where the waiters yell at you? I can't remember the name - Wong Kee maybe?


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 19:08
Wong Kei...


I've oft wondered if that was a deliberate pun or not, probably not but who knows.

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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 19:10
agreed, probably not, but great fun anyway.


Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 19:50
Hammersmith Odeon. Well, I want to check it out anyway. Some of my favorite live concerts were recorded there.

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 22 2015 at 23:26
Again as a tourist to another tourist, I'd like to suggest to the OP a club called Bag O' Nails at Soho. The place existed since 60s and so many musicians from the era were regurarly coming at Bag O' Nails; for while it was a gentlemen club, but now it's a "rock club" again.
 
 


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 23 2015 at 07:09
Originally posted by fudgenuts64 fudgenuts64 wrote:

Hammersmith Odeon. Well, I want to check it out anyway. Some of my favorite live concerts were recorded there.


It's now the Eventim Apollo, having been the Hammersmith Apollo for a while before that.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 23 2015 at 07:11
Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Fortunately, Abbey Road still has a zebra crossing if you find yourself in Regents Park and want to recreate an iconic album cover - just remember to park a VW beetle in the appropriate place.
Talking of Abbey Road, you can get a good minibus tour of Beatle-related places from a place in Leicester Square. It goes down Baker Street, past Macca's place (he was out) and on to Abbey Road where you can get run over on the zebra crossing if you're not careful. Definitely worth it if you're a fan.
 
There's also the Coal Hole in the Strand where I've had a few beers with Blacksword and Simon Godfrey of Tinyfish fame, whilst having an in-depth discussion on Hawkwind albums. That's prog-related.
 
so it's worth getting run over only if you are a real fan?  I'm not going to bother otherwise.

Yes obviously. Wink
It does surprise me that people don't get knocked down there, or perhaps they do.


Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: October 15 2015 at 13:35
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Fopp in Shaftesbury Avenue is quite good for cheap prog CDs.
Going to London tomorrow for the weekend. I'll see if I can get the time to drop by this place. Thanks.

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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: October 24 2015 at 18:32
a plaque commemorating Chris Squire
 
https://www.teamrock.com/features/2015-10-22/chris-squire-honoured-with-plaque-at-london-hotel" rel="nofollow - https://www.teamrock.com/features/2015-10-22/chris-squire-honoured-with-plaque-at-london-hotel
 
I'm going to be in London next week, I may stop by and pay my respects.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 25 2015 at 02:16
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

..except they are currently rebuilding it so some of the chimneys are missing


and I understand it will be a lot less visible from trains (this was breath taking when the Eurostar still ended on the South Bank) and other places, since the industrial wastelands grounds will be built-up around it, and the BPS could be somethered by high-rise buidings.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 25 2015 at 05:16
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:


Again as a tourist to another tourist, I'd like to suggest to the OP a club called Bag O' Nails at Soho. The place existed since 60s and so many musicians from the era were regurarly coming at Bag O' Nails; for while it was a gentlemen club, but now it's a "rock club" again.
 
 


According to their own web site it's now a private members club with an emphasis on karaoke and only occasional live music.

Anyone wanting to catch some interesting live bands whilst in London would do better to check out what's on at venues like Corsica Studios, the Lexington, the Underworld, the Boston Music Room, the Vortex and Cafe Oto. The latter two more on the improv / creative jazz side.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 25 2015 at 05:30
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

London Bridge, oh wait we bought that pile of rocks

You bought 'a' London Bridge, we built a new one (albeit an uninspiring one) as they have a habit of falling down.
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

..except they are currently rebuilding it so some of the chimneys are missing


and I understand it will be a lot less visible from trains (this was breath taking when the Eurostar still ended on the South Bank) and other places, since the industrial wastelands grounds will be built-up around it, and the BPS could be somethered by high-rise buidings.
Yup, that does appear to be the case, there is certainly a lot of construction happening around Nine Elms that will resemble a "mini-Manhattan" if it ever gets completed.

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

a plaque commemorating Chris Squire
 
https://www.teamrock.com/features/2015-10-22/chris-squire-honoured-with-plaque-at-london-hotel" rel="nofollow - https://www.teamrock.com/features/2015-10-22/chris-squire-honoured-with-plaque-at-london-hotel
 
I'm going to be in London next week, I may stop by and pay my respects.
I hope you enjoy your visit, and that the weather improves. 


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 25 2015 at 06:35
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:


Again as a tourist to another tourist, I'd like to suggest to the OP a club called Bag O' Nails at Soho. The place existed since 60s and so many musicians from the era were regurarly coming at Bag O' Nails; for while it was a gentlemen club, but now it's a "rock club" again.
 
 


According to their own web site it's now a private members club with an emphasis on karaoke and only occasional live music.

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I thought that the OP wants to see and to sniff the atmosphere of some "historic" pubs / clubs in London (e.g. The Beatles were hanging in the Bag O'Nails in '67/'68), not primarily to listen to great live music at those places, as the OP actually was in London to see Steven Wilson at the concert. And Bag O' Nails is damn good to be seen by the tourists.
By the way, Bag O'Nails seems to be very popular club among the Russian community in London now, judging by the posts on their https://www.facebook.com/bagonailslondon" rel="nofollow - Facebook page.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 25 2015 at 08:45
^ Yes I think you are right about the OP and your post was more on-topic than mine. But felt some current venue suggestions where newer bands can be heard would also be of interest to general readers of the thread.



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