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Topic: Which Prog band sounds the same to you.
Posted By: Bungler
Subject: Which Prog band sounds the same to you.
Date Posted: February 07 2016 at 11:53
What Prog band or artist do you find bland , boring , and just doing the same thing .
 
Remember that this is just opinion .
 
For me its Dream Theater ( after Metropolice Pt 2 ) .



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 07 2016 at 12:03
IQ has for the last 20+ years made the same album ie Ever. It's never bad though but getting a tad dull imo.

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 07 2016 at 12:09
Originally posted by Bungler Bungler wrote:

What Prog band or artist do you find bland , boring , and just doing the same thing .


Without hearing all of it, I'm going to assume that at least 30% of the music listed in the PA database is complete sh*t. About 10-25% is OMG Wow...holy poop on a stick! The rest falls somewhere in between.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 07 2016 at 13:25
Bland and boring......too many to mention ....but as far as sounding the same....Flower Kings for me. I stopped buying their albums a long time ago because they just kept rewriting the same songs imo.
Guldbamsen mentioned IQ....they have also been writing in the same style for a long time though for me the last 3 are better than the earlier ones .


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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 05:26
There are many - I saw Dream Theatre in 2011 and they bored us and we left early (most boring band since I had the misfortune to see Dire Straits - made worse by their evident 'self importance' i.e. unneccesary giant drumkit); but a lot of new-er prog bands seem formulaic to me.  Rush (Power Windows tour) was nearly as bad as DT and I have been never tempted to see them again since. 
This is all very subjective as I know people who love both bands and think they can do no wrong so they want more of the 'same'...


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 07:08
Ozric Tentacles come to my mind. Even though there is an obvious "sameness" from album to album to album, etc., I still find their music an enjoyable listen.

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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 07:14
I would agree, although they tend to be more 'samey' live!


Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 08:33
Anglagard albums (which I never understand why so higly rated here) sound the same to me. But I do have to give another spin perhaps.


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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 12:34
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:


Ozric Tentacles come to my mind. Even though there is an obvious "sameness" from album to album to album, etc., I still find their music an enjoyable listen.
It's true. If you have one album, you can have a pretty good idea what's in the other albums, but as you said yourself, they're still enjoyable. There are certain things, like (good) pizza and (good) ice cream, that I can eat over and over again. Not the approved of Prog attitude, but so what.

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 12:39
I'd throw in Pendragon a case in point.

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 12:44
Ozrics & Aranis spring to mind. Though I haven't listened to enough neo to be able to offer an opinion but my prejudice world view would say  IQ, Marillion. Magma have been recycling the same themes for decades but man they are good themes. Alamaailman Vasarat certainly have a patented sound.

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Posted By: scruffydragon
Date Posted: February 08 2016 at 21:32
I don't have many Hawkwind albums, but struggle to tell one track from another on the ones I have.Then again perhaps I have just brought the wrong albums?


Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: February 09 2016 at 02:08
Marillion after Brave sorta just blends into one pot for me.

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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: February 09 2016 at 06:09
TFK, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, DT.


Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: February 09 2016 at 06:35
Most Avant bands sound like screeech-zoing!-bangbangbang-AHHHHH! to me

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 09 2016 at 07:09
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Most Avant bands sound like screeech-zoing!-bangbangbang-AHHHHH! to me
 
LOLLOL Indeed!


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 09 2016 at 10:20
^Einsturzende Neubauten comes to mind.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 10 2016 at 07:12
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

^Einsturzende Neubauten comes to mind.

Neither "officially" prog (as in "not on PA"), nor always the same. You don't know that much of them, do you? They have developed quite a bit over the years, but are still uncompromising.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 10 2016 at 07:42
Originally posted by scruffydragon scruffydragon wrote:

I don't have many Hawkwind albums, but struggle to tell one track from another on the ones I have.Then again perhaps I have just brought the wrong albums?

Hawkwind have distinct periods of their history where they sound radically different from each other, within each of those eras they do tend to have a similar sound if you're not a fan and have repeatedly listened to the albums. I'm no expert but of what I know

1 - Hurry On Sundown - Folky psych
2 - In Search Of Space to Warrior On The Edge Of Time - full blow space psyche rock, their best period IMHO
3 - Astounding Sounds to PXR5 - more punky and upbeat with focus on Calvert vocals & lyrics
4 - Levitation onward - got heavier and more metalish, this is where I stopped buying.


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 10 2016 at 13:20
MESHUGGAH tend to sound samey from album to album, though they always add a little twist to approach album to album.


Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 29 2016 at 00:59
AC/DC immediately springs to my mind ...

however on the Prog Side, agree with some mentioned here, like Flower Kings, Pendragon, etc. I also feel Saga sounds quite simmilar on differnt albums (at least on the ones I know, which are just a few). Also Polish band Sattelite comes to mind.


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Posted By: meggamuffin
Date Posted: April 30 2016 at 11:23
I don't think I can tell the difference between most of the bands on Cuneiform Records but that might just me being naive. 

Cardiacs comes to mind but I can't help but love it. 


Posted By: meggamuffin
Date Posted: April 30 2016 at 11:24
Definitely LOL I think Steve listened to too much Radiohead and U2 




Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 30 2016 at 13:02
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Originally posted by Bungler Bungler wrote:

What Prog band or artist do you find bland , boring , and just doing the same thing .


Without hearing all of it, I'm going to assume that at least 30% of the music listed in the PA database is complete sh*t. About 10-25% is OMG Wow...holy poop on a stick! The rest falls somewhere in between.

No need to list names for me, this pretty much says it all about the state of prog bands, especially the ones of the past 10-15yrs.


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: April 30 2016 at 13:18
Originally posted by meggamuffin meggamuffin wrote:

I don't think I can tell the difference between most of the bands on Cuneiform Records but that might just me being naive. 
 
Welcome to the forum!
 
There's a lot more diverse stuff on the Cuneiform label than perhaps you might expect.  Not that you have to take an interest in it, but just saying, if you want to look there is a lot of varied music and you might find some you enjoy. It's not all avant-skronk.
 
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/
 
NB Edited my previous, unduly grumpy, response.


Posted By: ALotOfBottle
Date Posted: April 30 2016 at 13:51
Yes and Genesis.
Now, to be honest I find much of late-70's Canterbury scene so monotonous, for example National Health (which is great, don't get me wrong).
Also, a bit of post-Aqualung Jethro Tull.


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 15:29
IQ is a good call. But I love them anyway!!!
Neal Morse/TFK's/TA? Same thing!!! 
A lot of sameness and a lot of greatness.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 09 2016 at 16:23
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Originally posted by Bungler Bungler wrote:

What Prog band or artist do you find bland , boring , and just doing the same thing .


Without hearing all of it, I'm going to assume that at least 30% of the music listed in the PA database is complete sh*t. About 10-25% is OMG Wow...holy poop on a stick! The rest falls somewhere in between.


you're being a bit concervative, IMHOTongue

Already in Progmetal and Néo-prog, about 95% of it is utter sh*te and sounds like each otherEvil Smile

TBH, Post-rock doesn't fare much better in the same-sounding Sleepyand Math Rock is 95% crap as wellThumbs Down . I also have a problem telling apart of lot of those RPI symphonic bandsSleepy

TBH furthermore, a fair bit of JR/F and Zeuhl sound samey, but I happen to like the genresApprove

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Funnily enough, while we wish that 70's prog stalwarts had done a few more albums in the mould of their classic ones (especially in hindsight of the 80's to come, a lot of the 90's pillars did "repeat themselves" endlessly, and I can't help but finding them extremely boring (buy one album, you own them all)


Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Ozrics & Aranis spring to mind. Though I haven't listened to enough neo to be able to offer an opinion but my prejudice world view would say  IQ, Marillion. Magma have been recycling the same themes for decades but man they are good themes. Alamaailman Vasarat certainly have a patented sound.


agree with most bands you cite (well maybe not Aranis just yet >> their sound has progressed quite a bit since their debut until Roque Forte, but they've now come to sound very samey), and I could even add UZ, Cardiacs and a few more.

I've stopped buying Vasarat after their fourth or fith and only kept their first two, plus the DVD





Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 12 2016 at 14:23
Kansas to some extent. Have much of it on the ol' MP3 player but regularly skip over it as it comes up on shuffle. Boring, so why did I include it in the first place? Mongo don' know...

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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: May 13 2016 at 04:16
Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:

Yes and Genesis.
Now, to be honest I find much of late-70's Canterbury scene so monotonous, for example National Health (which is great, don't get me wrong).
Also, a bit of post-Aqualung Jethro Tull.


I was waiting for the obligatory Tull pasting.........'cough!


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: May 14 2016 at 09:59
Any Neal Morris project.  I love IQ, but I'd rather them vary thier sound more.   Most any Death Growl Metal.  Intellectually I know Death Metal heads can perceive the variances,  but I can't see in ultraviolet.   Ouch So I'm SOL.


Posted By: RockHound
Date Posted: May 17 2016 at 09:57
Dream Theater could definitely use a sonic makeover. I don't think they've twiddled the knobs in more than a decade.

The Flower Kings are another band that has acquired a serious case of sameness, but their sonic palate and musical interplay are colorful enough that I still find them interesting. And Banks of Eden was a very nice recent addition to their cannon.

Transatlantic's first two albums were very entertaining, but the last two studio efforts were largely paint by numbers. There are still some catchy themes on the Whirlwind, but Kaleidoscope just went nowhere for me.

I like when bands adopt a form for a few albums and then switch gears. I'd rather jump off a band's wagon because they took a new direction I didn't like than lose interest because they failed to evolve.


Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: May 17 2016 at 10:18
Pendragon's albums in the 90's and the 2000's (the 80's ones are different).
21st century Iron Maiden.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 17 2016 at 17:21
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Any Neal Morris project. 


Nah, I love a bit of Neal Morris.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 17 2016 at 17:27
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:


Any Neal Morris project.... 


Neal Morris does sound an awful lot like Neal Morse to my ear.

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 07 2016 at 13:52
There's this thin line between a)sounding samey and b)having a certain style. I would say your admiration towards an artist draws this very line, but nevertheless I admit some of my all-time fave bands are on the samey side, it's not even about the style anymore. Lacrimosa had been releasing the same record since 1995, even the structure of their albums stays the same (opening epic -> single -> fillers -> a quiet one -> a heavy one -> closing epic). Anathema recycling their own 2010s album, Gazpacho releasing "Night" sequels every two years now, but it looks like it's business as usual with all KScope bands...

Funny no one mentioned Tool or Swans yet. I adore them, but hey...you know


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: June 07 2016 at 13:56
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Most Avant bands sound like screeech-zoing!-bangbangbang-AHHHHH! to me

+1
Originally posted by fudgenuts64 fudgenuts64 wrote:

Marillion after Brave sorta just blends into one pot for me.

Anoraknophobia is so funky, you would've noticed



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