Bassists we never talk about
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Topic: Bassists we never talk about
Posted By: Hercules
Subject: Bassists we never talk about
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 16:51
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OK, we all know Geddy Lee is the best bassist ever - well except maybe for Tony Levin, Chris Squire or John Myung or someone else. But these 6 never get a mention; I've never seen any of them discussed on here but I think they're all great players. But who's the unheralded king of 4 strings (or 5 in Peter Gee or John Jowitt's case)? ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 17:37
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Dennis Dunaway of Alice Cooper. Criminally underrated. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 19:43
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pffff... the master of the 4 strings himself.. gasp... and he is not even English Roberto Callero  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 19:52
| Jack Casady - Jefferson Airplane and Hot Tuna. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 19:55
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John Mole ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 19:57
 though probably not what the OP was looking for. I think he wants to know which of those Neo bassists we don't talk about (hmmm.. wonder why  ) rank with the greats and yeah... Jack smokes Geddy 7 days a week and 3 times on Sunday. Even Geddy would tell you that...------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
dwill123 wrote:Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 20:09
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my favourite bass part these days
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 22:08
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Pete Gee was my pick although I almost picked John Jowitt. Brings back good memories of those early days listening to Neo-Prog. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 22:29
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John Jowitt ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 00:02
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Graem Murrey - Pallas -------------  
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 00:10
Well, I know all of these and love them all .Chas Cronk has great fluidity, Pattenden really liked the 'hard' riff, while Martin Turner really killed it on FUBB. Both Gee , Jowitt and Camp have great technique and style. I guess the Strawbs bassist followed by Jowitt , who is delightful to watch live. ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 02:37
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Not the most relevant technically speaking, but Jon Camp's solo on the live version of Ashes are Burning (Live at Carnegie Hall) is my favorite bass piece. I also like a lot Martin Turner on Sometime's world and Joe Buchard on Before the Kiss a Redcap. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 03:07
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Jaco Pastorius. Not prog, but that's as good as you get. ;-) ------------- |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 03:12
Please try again. Please read the question again, carefully. Which is the best of THESE bassists? The ones on the list. Not difficult to understand, even for someone of with the terrible disadvantage of not speaking English. God, there's always an awkward one, isn't there? And it's usually Micky. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 04:16
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Ray Schulman!
------------- "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?" |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 07:08
| Jon Camp for me. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 09:57
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Hi, Jaco for sure ... but my list would also include Lothar Meid, Bootsie Collins, Charlie Haden and Stanley Clark!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:01
| I pick Pattenden (Manfred Mann's Earth Band) in this list. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:08
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Crucify me, but seriously - PETER CETERA. Spend some time with Chicago VII and you'll hear quite an accomplished Jazz-Rock bassist, not a pop-singer........... ........and from this list - Martin Turner for sure. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:13
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Jon Camp always blended in quite well without being cocky into that symphonic splendor that called itself Renaissance. Among this list, he's my vote getter. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:14
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Camp for me ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:22
| Gotta admit that Camp is almost as good as Squire. Hell, even what he plays on Camera Camera smokes a lot of bassists.............. |
Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:30
| Martin Turner. Wishbone Ash music isn't the same without the upfront melodic basslines. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:37
As far as Jowitt goes, I'm a huge IQ fan but prefer Tim Esau any day of the week...don't like Jowitt's tone at all so no vote for him. Even though I absolutely cannot stand Renaissance and Annie Haslam (though I really like the debut album) I'd give Camp the vote. Great tone and adventurous playing...just hate the band he's in  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 15:12
 Someone has to wear the black hat around here... and occasionally the dunce cap... or you'd all end up looking like a bunch of brain dead zombies ...listening to neo prog and dozing off reading these threads....------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 15:17
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Jowitt from this list. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 15:43
| Camp |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:25
I love progarchives. Give a choice from a list and you can guarantee that someone (or several) awkward sods will say "it's none of those, it's XXXXX". Drives you mad. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:29
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of course it does.. but what can you do. Ahhh.. subscribe to the notion that discusion is where you find it.. not always were you might have wanted it to go. Hey besides.. I wouldn't bitch too much...at least YOUR polls have some life and a pulse.. mine are usually D.O.A. I had a years long streak of threads that never made it past the first page ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 16:32
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Martin Turner from the list-great player In general, Helmut Koellen (Triumvirat, Jail, solo) He is criminally under-rated, and hardly anyone talks about him.
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 17:43
Yep.Love Dennis. Just found out he wrote a book about early days Alice Cooper Band. My library got it.Picking it up tomorrow. ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 19 2016 at 02:22
| Jon Camp (Renaissance) ia real great great bassis, very often forgotten in prog circles |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 19 2016 at 03:06
| I love what Martin Turner does on the track 'Handy' (from the Wishbone debut). And his playing on Vas Dis is outstanding. |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 19 2016 at 20:21
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Of these I am only familiar with Martin Turner. Who in my opinion is one of the best bass/lead vocalists of the 70s. He has just released a new album of new material (not old Wishbone Ash classics) called "Written In The Stars". I was very ambivalent to listening to it, let alone buying this album after so many years in the "wilderness" i.e. not releasing any new material since 1999's Walking The Reeperbahn. But I bought it and on listening to it, I have to say it is just an amazing record. Truly Written In The Stars is the best set of tracks I have heard in a long while from any artist. Put it this way, I am a enormous fan of Andy Powell and buy all new Wishbone Ash releases but in my opinion Written In The Stars is better than anything Wishbone Ash has put out in the last 20 years. That is saying something because the 2002 Wishbone Ash album, Bona Fide is an absolute gem but Written In The Stars is even better than that...very proggy, very Wishbone Ash ...an essential purchase IMHO. A few months ago Martin Turner was put forward to be put on PA in the prog-related category. What's happening, he's not on here? He should be on here; just for Written In The Stars...have a listen....it is a fantastic album. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 19 2016 at 22:07
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Hmmm...sad to say I have never really noticed any of them but since I have been playing a lot of Earth Band lately...I'll go with Pattenden (btw it's Colin). ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 19 2016 at 23:40
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^ Never even noticed the O.P. says Chris - LMAO....... .........Colin Slade - drums......... |
Posted By: smoledman
Date Posted: February 20 2016 at 03:06
| Nick Beggs - gotta love those Chapman Stick players. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: February 20 2016 at 08:55
Oh God, of course it is. I've only got 8 albums by MME and I've been calling him Colin for 40+ years, then I have a senior moment when I wrote the poll. Confused him with Chris Slade. Doh!!
------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 20 2016 at 09:01
 also Dee Murray of Elton band is hugly overlooked -------------
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: February 20 2016 at 11:20
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John Jowitt. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: February 20 2016 at 13:37
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Jon Camp ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 20 2016 at 13:43
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Pekka Pohjola! Or of those listed, Martin Turner, mainly out of nostalgia for my days as a schoolboy Ash fan. I actually saw Martin Turner's version of Wishbone Ash live a few years ago. And they were...okay.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 20 2016 at 16:21
Dee cooks on that live EJ performance from '70, almost fusiony at some points !! |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 13:22
Ray Shulman   ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 14:04
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Jon Camp ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 14:38
Tom Araya 
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 16:40
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in this list : Jon Camp (Renaissance) > Chas Cronk (Strawbs) out of this list : Jan Patrick Djivas (PFM) , Peter Vink (Finch), Jonh Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin), Glenn Cornick (Jethro Tull), Ray Bennett (Flash) ...
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 17:48
LOL! You're hilarious, dude. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 17:48
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I threw a vote in for Jowitt. You don't know he good he really is unless you see him live. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 19:45
Mind, his playing on Hell Awaits is excellent. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 22:06
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 22:09
| Gerald Casale |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 09 2018 at 08:35
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Jean-François Désilets. ------------- 
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