Lizard....WTF
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Topic: Lizard....WTF
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Lizard....WTF
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:39
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This album is miserable, any back up on this??? It sounds NOTHING like the first two and is MAD weak. The only good stuff is lady of dancing water and the first 5 minutes of Lizard, which are phenominal, with Anderson. The rest is garbage.. |
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:43
I love it and would take it over the first two ANY day. If you're
surprised that it sounds different to the first two... welcome to King
Crimson.  They didn't survive for over 30 years by always sounding the same.
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:44
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I think it is a brilliant album. Yet i do agree the best parts are indeed lizard opening and lady of the dancing water (that flute sends chills down my spine). I dont think its all garbage tho. I would rate it about 8/10. ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Scrambled_Eggs
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:44
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I think it's an exquisite album, especially the epic "Lizard." I very much enjoy the added intruments like the oboe and the trombone. One of KC's best albums, in my opinion. ------------- And I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, I don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying? There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime. I never said I was frightened of dying. |
Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:47
| Cirkus is one of my favourite KC tracks. Also, the title track is amazing. The rest of the album is also good, even though I think Happy Family and Indoor Games sounds a bit the same. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:48
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I love Lizard, probably my favourite Crimson album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:49
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On of KC's best, probably second best, all of side one is fantastic, especially the masterpiece "Cirkus". Side Two is more iffy, but yes, Jon Anderson is great on it. It also sports the greatest cover ever besides 'Thick as a Brick' ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:52
I suggest you clean the wad of yours ears and hear it again (or hear it for the first time An acquired taste!! Keep at it , soon it will be your fave! "The battle of glass tears" is simply awesome. You can feel the cannonballs landing on your left and on the right! The Bolero is a bit weaker but it is the best Bolero done by a prog group. Much better than ELP's Abbadon.
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TheLostChord wrote:Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:55
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It's a great album except for Gordon Haskell's vocals, which are beyond
dreadful. Ruinous. How does he sound now that he's a comeback easy listening sensation in the UK? Just curious. |
Posted By: Lyzarrd
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 12:15
Heheh...you guys know what I think of it.  Truly great especially Cirkus and Fripp's fantastic solo in Prince Rupert's Lament. KC really gets experimental with this and the jam parts are just great. I find to be one of their bests...right behind Larks' Tounges. ------------- Can you tell me where my country lies... |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 12:18
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My least favourite album...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 12:28
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I just dont get it...I mean, I love prog, but I love songs that are structured and beautiful like moody blues songs and genesis with gabriel...like there isnt a single album with gabriel that is bad! cept maybe revelation, but that doesnt count as prog. Lizard...ok, cirkus, what do you see in the first 3 songs? none of them cause chills down my spine, let alone raise a hair anywhere. Cirkus's chorus consists of a flat to the key of the song horn or trumbone or something, how can you like that? rehhh ohhhhnnn rehhhh ohhhhhnnn! Miserable. Maybe i do need to listen to it more, but can someone back me up that when a PROG album is an "acquired taste" it isnt the bands best work, or even a great work. Most prog listeners can hear a song on the first listen and say "ok, thats a great song!" Lizard doesnt give any of that! Prince rupert awakes, thats it, lady of dancing water is good but i mean, anyone couldve written it! very simple. Please enlighten me, do you just enjoy the fact that it is different or? Better than court and poseidon? come on, what on here compares!??? Lizard should have been on poseidon or court, not on this album! |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 12:30
| I don't find it garbage in the least, but it's not on the same level as the first two or the three from the Bruford-Wetton era. Musically it's very good indeed, but what spoils the enjoyment for me are Haskell's vocals. Perhaps Fripp tried to get him to imitate Lake (an impossible feat for almost anyone), but to no avail. I have to admit that Anderson's vocals on Prince Rupert Awakes are like a breath of fresh air - besides being excellent in themselves. |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 12:33
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It's the best KC album and anyone who thinks otherwise sucks.
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Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 13:55
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It's a corker, though I would have to say Lady of the Dancing Water is
the turkey, like Cadence and Cascade a desperately transparent
attempt to recreate I Talk to the Wind. The mellotron work on this album is fantastic, Keith Tippets contributions take the band into whole new spheres for me esp on Happy Family and the bolero section. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 14:06
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A fantastic album. One of their best, IMO. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 14:11
I believe the very opposite is the case. Albums that I find hard to get into, for me are eventually more rewarding for it. I see no reason to believe that you have to likesomething first time to make it a great album! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: kokoryn
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 15:47
Well, from what you say I see that you like symphonic prog and Lizard goes beyond symphonic. That's probably why you find it hard to appreciate. I am also symphonic rock fan but I don't mind more experimental approach. In fact Cirkus, Indoor Games and Happy Family are all much more interesting than Lady of the Dancing Water to me.
I disagree. I have to admit that there is probably only one progrock album that grew on me immediately after first time I heard it. Most of my favourite recordings did absolutely nothing for me after the first listen. Prog is not the kind of music you can easily get into. Maybe Lizard is just not for you, but maybe if you gave it more time you would eventually like it.
Well, not very good argument. If something is simple it doesn't mean anybody could have written it. It doesn't also mean it is in any way worse than something complex. |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 15:57
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Cirkus also has Sinfield's best lyrics IMO -------------
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 16:02
hehehhe how sad...its not garbage...its anly that you dont understand it! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 16:15
Like 90% of King Crimson albums [Red being the only exception] it is like you say. GARBAGE! |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 20:38
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The best lyrics on "Lizard" are to the track "Happy Family", a song
about the Beatles. (Uncle Rufus = Ringo, Cousin Silas = George, Nasty
Jonah = John and Judas= Paul; their pic + Yoko Ono (the wife of "Nasty
Jonah") appears on the cover).
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 20:40
| Much better than their WAY OVERRATED debut album.. |
Posted By: Soulman
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 00:53
A long time ago that's what I used to think, but now after listening to King Crimson's albums, I love all of them! Red is defintely a very raw (about 3 different instruments on one album; a rarity in prog!) and quite brilliantly structured album. Though i appreciate albums like Lizard, which I do not particularly favour above some albums, but still do enjoy somewhat. I'll agree that Haskell's vocals are not really enjoyable for me to listen to; I kind of feel like I'm listening to like a cheesy children's album. I'll appreciate Lizard, especially how early it was made. The way the instrumentation is laid out on the mizing of album is quite brilliant. I kind of get lost in the Cirkus song like I really am in a circus. Definetely Lizard isn't quite up to par with some albums, but it's a very different album. The only way I can describe Lizard is like children's music album, just because of how playful the music is on it. |
Posted By: Kryodus
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 01:53
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cirkus is amazing.. |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 02:20
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i think you are a bit right. For me the best KC album is Islands, and then Larks tongues in aspic, RED, In a wake of Poseydon, Starless and bible black |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 02:49
Yes, he's definitely lame! From that album I personally like Cirkus, the Suite and Lady of the dancing water best...but I must say that Indoor games and Happy family are so eerie and quirky that one cannot remain unimpressed! ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 02:55
I didn't know that! What can I say? ROTFL!!! 
I love Beatles, yet knowing this Happy Family gains another 10 points up my liking ladder!!! ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 02:58
Sir, I'm gonna have to ask you what the hell you've been smoking. 
Albums that are easily accessible are also easily forgettable and
reveal all of their secrets right away. Albums that are thick,
dense, and difficult have much more of a chance of being works of
art. Speaking of which, I used to dislike Lizard, but this thread
made me curious to pull it out again... and now I'm LOVING it. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 03:01
| I love the first song "Cirkus", but otherwise I find it boring, and even annoying. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 03:54
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lines like "Silver Rolls from Golden Rock", "happy family pale applause, each to his revolving doors" and "let their sergeant mirror spin, if we lose the barber's win" make a lot more sense now, don't they? -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:48
You better. KC are, like, your favourite band and you don't even like their best album. That's kinda lame. -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:09
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I think the problem is that Cirkus is such a great, easy to get into, opening track. The rest of the album then seems a bit difficult, but is a rewarding experence ultimately, especially Side 2. I feel I must defend Haskells singing to. He gets it about right I think, sounding like a bit of a madman sometimes. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:27
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There is anoter hidden allusion in the lyrics of "Happy Family". The line "Jude so sweet" makes any German with a little knowledge of history automatically think of the anti-semitic movie "Jud Süß" ("Jude" is German for "Jew", "Jud" is a derogatory short form for it. "Süß" is German for "sweet"). The main character is depicted as a greedy and malevolent character in the movie. Since Paul McCartney is one of the richest people on earth (I think he even makes the top 20 poll), this is a somewhat fitting, though very nasty comparison. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:34
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Jude so sweet, would be John Lennons son I reckon. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:41
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No, Judas definitely is McCartney. Jonas is Lennon, Rufus is Ringo Starr, and Silas is Harrison. Look at the pic of the Beatles on the album cover of "Lizard". You can see McCarteny alias "Judas" draw his "pruning knife" there, Lennon alias "Jonah" with a bottle, out of which his wife as a ghost appears, Ringo alias "Rufus" in baggy trousers and Harrison alias "Silas" meditating. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:43
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Yeah, I forgot! But McCartney was no where near as rich when this song was written, not more than Lennon anyway. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:49
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Maybe my interpretation of the lyrics go too far there. But the song is definitely about the Beatles, with the characters as I assigned them. You just need to take a look at the album cover for that to recognize them, once you know they are there. And McCartney had always been the one to write the sweeter songs within the Beatles, like "Yesterday"; Lennon had a rougher edge. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:53
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I never said the song wasn't about The Beatles! I have always known this, it is no revelation to me! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:03
Anybody interested in the Lennon vs McCartney rift should listen to John's How do you sleep? from his 1971 album Imagine. Take a look at the lyrics: So Sgt.Pepper took you by surprise You better see right through that mother’s eyes Those freaks was right when they said you was dead The one mistake you made was in your head Ah, how do you sleep? Ah, how do you sleep at night? You live with straights who tell you you was king Jump when your momma tell you anything The only thing you done was yesterday And since you’re gone you’re just another day Ah, how do you sleep? Ah, how do you sleep at night? Ah, how do you sleep? Ah, how do you sleep at night? A pretty face may last a year or two But pretty soon they’ll see what you can do The sound you make is muzak to my ears You must have learned something in all those years Ah, how do you sleep? Ah, how do you sleep at night? The lines I quoted in bold refer explicitly to McCartney's songs before (Yesterday) and after the Beatles split up (Another Day) Quite harsh, isn't it? ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:09
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I always loved this biting comment of John about his former friend. though I am certain he is exaggerating some; the role of McCartney was more important than he makes it. but it is definitely true that McCartney's output is more or less muzak. "Live and Let Die" is a nice exception though ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:12
Does anybody remember what John Lennon said about Blood, Sweat & Tears? 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:13
No, its not true. Mccartney is and was an excellent composer of music! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:37
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IMHO "Lizard" is musically brilliant, but I don't like Haskell's vocals - in fact, I do prefer Adrian Belew's vocals to Haskell's. I don't like his bass playing too. But I love all songs here. ------------- "He's a man of the past and one of the present" PETER HAMMILL |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 07:59
I definitely agree! I love most of his music, though he has also an inclination for cheesy throwaway (one of the songs of his that I hate most is Silly Love Songs...but it must be said that its version on Give my regards to Broad Street features an outstanding slap bass!) Ok, now let's get back to the topic otherwise the other fellows will get upset! ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: lmollea
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 08:54
I re-read the lyrics with this hint... How can I say? My God... ------------- Semm che, semm che settà giò in del bar / a cercà l'universo nel bucèer del Cynar cosmonauti al tavolino cun la sigareta in bùca / che vemm a cambià el mund apena finissum la sambuca |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 11:13
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lizard is among their best albums: it is also their most jazzy one! i appreciate it very much also because fripp plays sensitive & decent guitar notes! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 12:08
Remember people, if you don't like a King Crimson record it's because you're not good enough, not because the record is! |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 12:14
How very true! |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 13:56
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I think it's my second favorite Crimson album, behind ITCOTCK. Cirkus is one of their best songs. And, if Lizard (the song) were shortened by about 5-10 minutes, they would have had an album to rival Court. I don't think there's a weak track on the album, with the exception of Lizard being a little overblown. I even like Happy Family and Indoor Games. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 17:16
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I agree with snow dog & others that good music needs time to get used to. I agree with Saen trane that "The battle of glass tears" is briliant. Being a fan of KC for many years and loving Lizard for more than 20 years now, it is obvious that I think different than thelostchord (a great album of the moodies bty). For me Lizard is one of the most wonderfull albums ever made from start to end. Their most jazzy album on one hand and then very classical bolero on the other hand. Very soft in Lady of the dancing water and Prince Rupert awakes and then very rough with Cirkus and parts of The battle of glass tears. I also think that Haskel's voice fits great in the first side of the record (Cirkus to lady) and fails a beat only in the begining of battle. Happy family & Indoor games are sang just the way they should IMO. But ............ your right to think else. From here it seems like your loss. ------------- omri |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 17:20
^ I'm glad someone else is sticking up for Haskell too, col ha kavod! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 17:53
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I freakin' love Lizard, i prefer it to Islands (although only just) and Wake of Posiedon (by quite a way). "Cirkus" is indeed an inspired song with amazing acoustic playing by Fripp, even though in recent interviews he pretty much dismisses all the guitaring on the 1st four albums as crap. I quite like the Beatles inspired "Happy Family" and "Indoor Games" is also not bad by a long shot. The title track certainly has its moments - shorten it by 3-4 minutes in some of the long, drawn-out sections and it could be near perfect jazz-prog. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:00
No, I just love the drawn-out improvisations. Lizard has the closest to an improvised fugue that was ever made in prog. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:08
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I didn't think much of it the first time I heard it either. Like any good prog rock album, you have to give it some patience and allow it to settle in before you can fully understand it. ------------- The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. http://www.last.fm/user/sbonfiglioli/?chartstyle=red"> 
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:10
| Lizard is one of my favorite Crimson albums right behind "Larks' Tongues In Aspic" and "In The Court Of The Crimson King". The music on this album is magic to my ears. It has a way of transporting me to another time and place. I always thought of this album as a very "English" album and could imagine myself in Renasissance period England when listening to it. It takes a certian magic for music to transport me to another time and place and this album is full of this magic. |
Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:13
Suppose...I'll listen to it now and concentrate. |
I forgot to mention how much i like the classical parts of Lizard! Completely unlike their other stuff.Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 03:29
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This album is far from miserable. The only track I don't really care for is "Indoor Games", though it's still a good listen. Cirkus. Where do I begin? Anyone who says Fripp isn't melodic needs to hear this song. His guitar work is inspiring. "Happy Family" is nice, with great Jazz piano work by Tippet and funny, ironic lyrics. "Lady of the Dancing Water" is a nice, calm piece. "Lizard" is epic. And that's that. I can understand why some people wouldn't like it. I had to give it a little time, too. ------------- I don't believe in demons I don't believe in devils I only believe in you |
Posted By: cluckie
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 04:56
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so many people cant be wrong eh? i fell in love with the album as soon as i heard it. very dark album to me, not sure where i was in my life but it seemed to be very fitting. think the vocals are great also. this album holds a special place in my collection. give it another go as youre sure to love it. what a great thread though, with a very interesting beatles tangent. great |
Posted By: cluckie
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 05:02
in fear of being ignorant what is IMO |
Posted By: cluckie
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 05:06
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no dont bother the pennies dropped. in my opinion |
Posted By: cluckie
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 05:10
hey look at my stats to the left in the past 3 posts and prob this one too. posts: 24. pfff would like them to clock up if im posting them 
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Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 08:51
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I like KC very much, but I must confess that they are not my preferred band in Prog Rock (I even like more the swedish bands that are influenced by them, like the trio ANGLABERKDOTEN...) But when we talk about "Lizard"... This is a phenomenal album, very difficult at the first leastening, but fantastic when you "understand" it best... And you need to see the history of the band at that time... After a masterpiece (ITCOTCK), they came with a great album (ITWOP) but with a big problem: seemed to be a repetition of the anterior album. After bad critics, Fripp decided to try something new, and all their new bandmates contribute with that decision (it's a transition formation, but they worked very fine). Well, I don't like Haskell's vocals, but it don't jeopardize the final work... To talk the truth, their next album, "Islands", was the real problem... This is the only one uninspired moment of Fripp in the seventies...
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Posted By: slipperman
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:31
Right about Haskell! Musically I don't think it's quite as strong as the 1st two albums, but if it's not being compared to those it does have some great moments. I've always found the recording to be clunky sounding, and Gordon Haskell just totally drags everything down. He's horrible. ------------- ...it is real...it is Rael... |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:19
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one of my personal crimson faves. The title track is incredible, Jon Anderson does a great job.
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Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:33
| I re-listened to the title track and everything seems to be in the right place, i regret ever criticising it. Now to do the same with all of "Islands"... |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:51
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I really liked Lizard when I first heard it, but It's never been a masterpiece for me. It's still a very good album though. I would rate it 7/10 ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:02
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For me, Lizard has it all, the symphonic feel of the first two albums, the avant-garde jazz thanks to Keith Tippett and some angular Fripp solos ... Plus two of my favourite KC songs ever in Lady Of The Dancing Water (the brass work underlying the vocals is so beautiful) ... And what about Cirkus, my God! What a song ... I do find it difficult to listen to because I love Fripp's acoutic guitar work during the verses (actually my favourite Fripp moment of all time) but it's kind of soft and I have to turn it up, and then the chorus is so much louder ... it's still awesome ... And I love Gordon Haskell's singing on this album too ... ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:19
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I think it's a brilliant album.
If you're not a jazz fan I can see how you wouldn't like lizard though. But I personally love it to death. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Haragei
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 10:27
| I think it's one of those Crimson albums that probably improves upon repeated listenings, but it's a great one. The artwork is also interesting. A friend told me a whole story behind the mural painted on the album cover once. You can identify the Beatles as well as many other musicians of that time in the artwork. |
Posted By: Off Centre
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 10:39
Red features lots of different instruments, aside from the guitar/bass & drums there's sax's, cornet, oboe, cello, viloin and of course... mellotron. Lizard is OTT, Fripp's first KC album as the main writer, but thats part of it's charm, it's extreme!!! Beautiful and scary mellotron, amazing fripp guitar playing, especially the acoustic work on Cirkus. Keith Tippett plus his horn section certainly make it sound different to the other albums as well. I like it, but at the same time I dont!? My favourite 'if only': Ian and Mike did not leave in dec 69, but Keith Tippett(as a member not a guest) and Mel Collins still came on board, now that would have been one hell of a band!!! |
Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 00:23
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I didn't used to find Haskell's voice to my liking, but now I don't mind it so much. Hell, it's distorted half the time anyway. ------------- I don't believe in demons I don't believe in devils I only believe in you |
Posted By: Astaroth
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 01:34
why don't you write songs like that? come on! is a good album! ------------- "I need you more that you can know ... and if I hurt myself it's just for show" |