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Topic: Cultural differences between countries
Posted By: Modrigue
Subject: Cultural differences between countries
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 08:09
Feel free to expose aspects, misunderstandings or advices specific to your country that you find interesting to mention to others, based on your personal experience.

The idea of this thread is not to emit judgements on this country or that country's point of view / particularity / tradition / culture / politics, but to enunciate some interesting lesser-known differences that could help people planning to do a trip or to live / work in a country.


In France:

- Do not talk about money, it's a taboo topic. Do not expose your wealth or big car to the others. In general, Frenchs don't like flashy and large cars. Do not talk about your salary with your colleagues.

- Do the French bise to salute women, even those you don't know.

- I remembered being shocked the first time I heard American teenagers saying they were more liberal than republican. The term "liberal" is considered as an insult here, as it refers to evil capitalists who make poor children work at very low-cost, whereas, on the contrary, "republican" is a positive term: it represents unity and equality.

- There are many dogs and also... proofs of "Doggy was here" Big smile

- The university has not the same educational meaning than in most countries

- For our Asian friends: shops are closed on Sunday


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 08:25
In the UK everyone has an opinion about things they know nothing about, including me. Is that the same everywhere?

..or and for some reason we eat doner kebabs served up from vans parked in pub car parks. We also care more about football than the future of the country. The well educated are smug and patronising and the ill educated are violent, racist and tend to drink heavily....and follow football.

With regard to liberal, anyone can call themselves a liberal. That doesn't make them a liberal. These days many people who characterise themselves as such are actually very authoritarian and controlling in their outlook. In the UK we have just have right wing bigots and centre right neo-liberals. A socialist leads the opposition party at the moment, but he'll be long gone before there's another election.

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 08:29
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

In the UK everyone has an opinion about things they know nothing about, including me. Is that the same everywhere?

 

Seems that way to me. 

In fact I was gunna say in recent years I've kind of been learning that, while there are always differences here and there... personal country related things, seems people really are basically the same all over. 


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 08:36
Originally posted by Modrigue Modrigue wrote:

- I remembered being shocked the first time I heard American teenagers saying they were more liberal than republican. The term "liberal" is considered as an insult here, as it refers to evil capitalists who make poor children work at very low-cost, whereas, on the contrary, "republican" is a positive term: it represents unity and equality.

Liberal is still used as an insult by American socialists :P


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 08:42
In America we pronounce water as wood-er.


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 08:57
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

In the UK everyone has an opinion about things they know nothing about, including me. Is that the same everywhere?


I think that's just called being human.




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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 09:15
As someone with 11 years here:

In the US do not not talk about money. Do not not try to show it off.  

Also, try to smile all the time to everybody like you're trying to sell them something. No matter how much you don't give a f**k about them. Be fake. 

Those are some negatives aspects (for me). There are a million positives, too. It's relatively easy to adapt to this culture. 




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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 09:42
Some people may know that I partially grew up in Germany and partially in England. One big difference I noted was queuing. In England people stood several meters into the street in a queue when trying to get entrance into a movie at a cinema. In Germany people just stand around in the anteroom without any order, only immediately at the entrance will they get into line because they have to.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 09:44
In my country of origin, Ecuador, please be advised that if you have a non-business appointment with someone, say, at 5 PM, they're most likely showing up around 5:30-5:45. Lateness is like ingrained in our culture LOL

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 09:56
Another difference I noted: I was not allowed to enter a pub, not even accompanied by a grown-up; I had to wait outside. In Germany my father went to the pub each Sunday morning to play cards with his brothers and a few friends, and he always took me with him. I was of course not allowed to drink alcohol, but I learned playing Skat and Klammerjazz there, two card games that are quite popular in Germany.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 10:14
I was once told that "on the Continent" it was considered to be ill-mannered to talk about the weather because it implied that you had nothing else to talk about.

That isn't the case here in the UK where we seem to talk about very little else. Some would observe that is because we have so much of it but the reality is not quite like that. The truth is, it's something we all have in common - walk up to a total stranger in the street and try and strike up a conversation, regardless of what opening gambit you use there is a fair chance that they will completely ignore you. However, the one thing you can guarantee is that you are both currently experiencing exactly the same weather and you can safely predict with high certainty that you will both agree that it will change shortly. If it is currently sunny you will agree that it will most likely rain later and if it is currently raining you will both be sure that it will brighten up soon. Before you know it they'll be telling you their life story as if you'd known them for years, and you never know, they may even ask something about you.

So there you have it - with a simple comment about the weather you've struck up a conversation with a normally reserved Brit.  

Ta-dah!


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 10:27
Americans tend to want to talk to strangers about anything. I don't know if it's me and my dislike of that or if it's actually a thing. Actually, it is. I have traveled abroad several times and of course I also come from a different culture and people just not start conversations out of nowhere with strangers (like in elevators, pubs, etc) . I don't know. 

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 10:39
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Americans tend to want to talk to strangers about anything. I don't know if it's me and my dislike of that or if it's actually a thing. Actually, it is. I have traveled abroad several times and of course I also come from a different culture and people just not start conversations out of nowhere with strangers (like in elevators, pubs, etc) . I don't know. 
I've experienced that in the USA enough to believe it could be a thing but that maybe due to how I look or sound piquing their curiosity as they invariably open with a rhetorical question based upon my appearance or nationality. 

One of the strangest that had me planning the quickest route to the exit was "You don't have guns in Eng-er-land do you?"


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 10:45
LOL

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 14:26
What's the point of leaving the house if you're not going to talk to strangers? It's basically the only reason I ever go in public.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 14:42
^One of those instances when I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or real. Tongue

In my case, such an statement would be quite the sarcastic one.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 15:20
I love the friendliness of the people when I go to the US. People generally seem much colder and more reserved here in and around Vancouver.

My problems have not been travelling to other countries so much as in coming back here after a long absence -- sort of reverse culture shock, as I've found people so much friendlier and accommodating in my travels (but part of that has to do with being an obvious foreigner, so people tend to go out of their way more to be helpful).

In pubs which to me have always seemed places to go to socialise (and have a drink or two at the same time), I have found it much harder to connect with people here than when I was in Australia, for instance.

On the plus side, I haven't had to hide my wallet here, or use a money belt, as I have in some other parts of the world -- never been pick-pocketed here. In parts of Europe I was very wary when certain people would come up to me as I knew the trick (get me talking, filling something out etc. while another tried to pick-pocket me), so apparent friendliness from strangers is not always welcome.

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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 15:59
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Americans tend to want to talk to strangers about anything. I don't know if it's me and my dislike of that or if it's actually a thing. Actually, it is. I have traveled abroad several times and of course I also come from a different culture and people just not start conversations out of nowhere with strangers (like in elevators, pubs, etc) . I don't know. 

Yeah we do that.  It's definitely a thing.  I think many Americans think if you aren't overtly friendly then you're probably some kind of a dick.  For the most part I think people are genuinely trying to be polite and well-meaning though, hard to fault folks for that.

I travel internationally quite a bit and most of the rest of the world is far more reserved than Americans (except Aussies, they're a bit of an outgoing bunch).  

Sometimes I get pleasantly surprised and run into exceptions though.  I was eating in an out-of-the-way diner in Romania once and the servers were huddled and pointing at me.  After a bit one of them went into the back room and out came a young lady who walked up to me and proceeded to tell me all about her friend from Seattle and how she plans to go to the U.S. to visit her, and she really wanted to know what I thought of Romania.  

And in China I get kids come up to me all the time and want to practice their English and get a selfie with me.  I was climbing the stone steps of Wudang mountain last summer and a bunch of Chinese students ran into me and insisted on me posing for pictures with each one of them, they even wanted to put on my headphones to hear what I was listening to (it was Tom Waits, I don't think they were impressed).  And an old man came up to me at the bus stop in Singapore once and gave me a 10 minute lecture on everything that was good and bad about America (apparently we are more bad than good, but he was very polite in telling me this).

And I went to a pub for breakfast in Germany once where the older lady serving hustled me into a side room because there were a bunch of football fans getting roaring drunk and ready for a match (at 09:00am).  She fussed over me the whole time and made sure I wasn't hassled.  That was pretty cool.



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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 16:10
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

As someone with 11 years here:

In the US do not not talk about money. Do not not try to show it off.  


Unless you're super f**king rich. Then everyone will worship you if you show it off.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 16:27
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

As someone with 11 years here:

In the US do not not talk about money. Do not not try to show it off.  


Unless you're super f**king rich. Then everyone will worship you if you show it off.
I said the same. Check the double negative there Wink

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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: June 20 2016 at 16:45
Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 03:05
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

One of the strangest that had me planning the quickest route to the exit was "You don't have guns in Eng-er-land do you?"

Eng-er-land?   Where were you, Dean, Arkansas?



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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 03:28
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I was once told that "on the Continent" it was considered to be ill-mannered to talk about the weather because it implied that you had nothing else to talk about.

That isn't the case here in the UK where we seem to talk about very little else. Some would observe that is because we have so much of it but the reality is not quite like that. The truth is, it's something we all have in common - walk up to a total stranger in the street and try and strike up a conversation, regardless of what opening gambit you use there is a fair chance that they will completely ignore you. However, the one thing you can guarantee is that you are both currently experiencing exactly the same weather and you can safely predict with high certainty that you will both agree that it will change shortly. If it is currently sunny you will agree that it will most likely rain later and if it is currently raining you will both be sure that it will brighten up soon. Before you know it they'll be telling you their life story as if you'd known them for years, and you never know, they may even ask something about you.

So there you have it - with a simple comment about the weather you've struck up a conversation with a normally reserved Brit.  

Ta-dah!

In the small part of the Continent that is called the Netherlands no one has a problem with conversations about the weather. On the contrary, there are few subjects of conversation that fit the Dutch as well as the weather. It is subject to many changes and, just like politics, too often something not to be content about.
About politics: for this reason the party that wins the Second Chamber elections will lose the next round in favour of the opposition. The term "liberal" is not an insult, just a political point of view. "Republican" is used by a small minority that is explicitly against the royal house.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 04:47
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

One of the strangest that had me planning the quickest route to the exit was "You don't have guns in Eng-er-land do you?"

Eng-er-land?   Where were you, Dean, Arkansas?

Milpitas, but not everyone there was a local Wink


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 05:13
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

The same goes for Denmark. We fear other humans when packed together in small places - especially if the pćace is moving.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 05:22
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

The same goes for Denmark. We fear other humans when packed together in small places - especially if the pćace is moving.
Last time I visited Sweden a combination of the high price of alcohol and a more-or-less zero tolerance on drink-driving meant the one place you could guarantee meeting a drunk Swede was on public transport.Wink


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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 06:24
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

I think there are unwritten rules, even for Americans. And like anything else there are generational differences.  I grew up in the rural and suburban Western states in the 60s and 70s where it was considered pretty rude to not acknowledge a visitor to the area if you ran into them at a supermarket or community event or even walking down the street.  It's still that way in many of those places today.  Same goes for waving at people in passing cars.  I really never understood that one, but I recall as a child that my parents would cuff my in the head if someone drove by and I didn't wave to them.

We don't really have passenger trains in most of the West, but striking up a conversation with a total stranger on a bus kind of crosses a line.  There's a good chance the person doing that is a bit wanting in the mental stability department.  And I'm really not a fan of people who feel the need to chat when queued up at checkout lines or waiting to get into a concert or the security line at the airport.  A lot of people do that here but I'm usually already annoyed to be standing in line and don't feel like expending the energy to try and be polite to someone I'll probably never see again.

Another thing I've found different around the world is people's manners while driving a car.  Everywhere I've been in Europe (except Germany), people tend to be completely self-absorbed and drive like they don't give a crap about anyone else around them.  Same goes for China, Korea and Singapore.  And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  I've had my current car for six years and don't even know what the horn sounds like (actually I don't even know if it works Ermm).


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 06:50
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

I think there are unwritten rules, even for Americans. And like anything else there are generational differences.  I grew up in the rural and suburban Western states in the 60s and 70s where it was considered pretty rude to not acknowledge a visitor to the area if you ran into them at a supermarket or community event or even walking down the street.  It's still that way in many of those places today.  Same goes for waving at people in passing cars.  I really never understood that one, but I recall as a child that my parents would cuff my in the head if someone drove by and I didn't wave to them.

We don't really have passenger trains in most of the West, but striking up a conversation with a total stranger on a bus kind of crosses a line.  There's a good chance the person doing that is a bit wanting in the mental stability department.  And I'm really not a fan of people who feel the need to chat when queued up at checkout lines or waiting to get into a concert or the security line at the airport.  A lot of people do that here but I'm usually already annoyed to be standing in line and don't feel like expending the energy to try and be polite to someone I'll probably never see again.

Another thing I've found different around the world is people's manners while driving a car.  Everywhere I've been in Europe (except Germany), people tend to be completely self-absorbed and drive like they don't give a crap about anyone else around them.  Same goes for China, Korea and Singapore.  And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  I've had my current car for six years and don't even know what the horn sounds like (actually I don't even know if it works Ermm).
On the subject of waving at cars, in the UK when driving some of the less popular models sometimes a driver of the same model as you will acknowledge you by waving or flashing their headlights. This happened occasionally when I owned VW Sirocco Mk2's, and that became more frequent after they went out of production so where rarer on the road. However, it only seemed to happen in my Hyundai V6 coupe if the other car was exactly the same model and colour as mine, but when I bought an MG TF roadster I don't recall ever seeing another MG roadster owner not wave regardless of the model they were driving, even drivers of vintage ones would acknowledge me as a member of the "on the road club". 

Now I drive a BMW convertible the only waving I see is with one finger extended regardless of the make or model of the other car, and that includes other BMW dirvers. LOL


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:00
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Don't ever try to begin a conversation with the Swedes on trains and busses. People will suspect that you're drunk. LOL 

The same goes for Denmark. We fear other humans when packed together in small places - especially if the pćace is moving.

Last time I visited Sweden a combination of the high price of <span style="line-height: 18.2px;">alcohol</span><span style="line-height: 18.2px;"> </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">and a more-or-less zero tolerance on drink-driving meant the one place you could guarantee meeting a drunk Swede was on public transport.</span>Wink




We tend to meet inebriated Swedes all through the summer much due to the same reason. They absolutely adore our alcoholic ways.



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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:05
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:




We tend to meet inebriated Swedes all through the summer much due to the same reason. They absolutely adore our alcoholic ways.

Before my visit I asked if I should bring anything with me (meaning to do my job, such as specialist tools, back-up discs, instruction manuals etc.) - the reply I received was: "1 litre bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label". Big smile


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:06
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  
 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:




We tend to meet inebriated Swedes all through the summer much due to the same reason. They absolutely adore our alcoholic ways.


Before my visit I asked if I should bring anything with me (meaning to do my job, such as specialist tools, back-up discs, instruction manuals etc.) - the reply I received was: "1 litre bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label". Big smile


Sounds about right.
I'm not sure the alcohol laws of Sweden work the way they're supposed to. Keeping people, who basically stem from the Vikings, away from the drink makes the occasional party even crazier. Man I've seen some absurd cases at the Roskilde Festival - folks who clearly have been waiting months to go absolutely berserk. They may just have saved what tiny bit of pride left - if they'd had the same opportunity in their home country. Oh well I really can't complain. Some of these instances were absolutely hilarious and something I'll never forget. 50% of any festival is watching other people anyway.



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:20
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  

 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.


In Italy it's a separate language.



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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:28
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  
 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.
This is so true, India is like on a different planet.
I spent 6 months there about 15 years ago, and drove my own bike, now that I'm thinking about it it's a damn miracle I came back home in one piece.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:32
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  

 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.


In Italy it's a separate language.

LOL Italy is without doubt the maddest place I've ever driven, whether in a large city or driving around narrow mountain roads at break-neck speed the technique for changing lanes or overtaking seemed to be "horn, manoeuvre, mirror, obscene-gesture and then horn again". In the end I just eased off the gas and let them get on with it. Until it started to rain, then they turned into the most cautious drivers you could imagine - leaving the roads clear for us Brits (and the Dutch for some reason) to show them how it should be done.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 08:41
I still don't have a driver's license (at 34!!! I know I know but I am quite comfortable on my bike), but if I had, I would absolutely dread a drive in downtown Rome. Even pedestrians need to watch out - especially when crossing the street. The traffic signals are only there as a guide, but no one seems to take them seriously. I quickly found out the best way to go about crossing traffic was to follow women (preferably hot). The cars would break instantly and often the drivers would say nice things out the window that I, of course, pretended was directed at me.



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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:01
I didn't learn to drive until I was 32 - the magic words were "I'm pregnant"

But yep - the driving in Rome was something else, I briefly experienced it as we approached the city before returning the car to the Avis. That was always part of the plan anyway as we didn't need the car for three days in Rome... and on seeing a guy eat a bowl of pasta while driving and then a woman putting on her make-up at 80kph on the autostrade, we realised this was a good plan. The taxi ride into the city was something you'd pay good money for at an amusement park.


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:02
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

And the honking is incessant, especially in China.  I've been driving for almost 40 years in the U.S. and have probably only honked my car horn 2-3 times.  

 
I spent a couple of weeks in Bangalore a few years ago, the honking is incessant there as well. There is no real concept of lanes or letting people out, everyone just piles in and hits the horn like crazy. The noise gets on your nerves pretty quickly but strangely we only saw one minor accident the whole time we were there.


In Italy it's a separate language.

LOL Italy is without doubt the maddest place I've ever driven, whether in a large city or driving around narrow mountain roads at break-neck speed the technique for changing lanes or overtaking seemed to be "horn, manoeuvre, mirror, obscene-gesture and then horn again". In the end I just eased off the gas and let them get on with it. Until it started to rain, then they turned into the most cautious drivers you could imagine - leaving the roads clear for us Brits (and the Dutch for some reason) to show them how it should be done.

what was the joke again? ah, yes.

a tourist gets into a taxi cab at the central station in Rome and wants to be driven to his hotel. the taxi driver starts off like mad, turning corners at full speed with screeching tires. what it especially notable is that he crosses each red traffic light. suddenly they reach a green traffic light, and he stops. asks the tourist: "why do you stop here"? replies the taxi driver: "ah signore, now my colleagues will come"


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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta


Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:14
You people have not driven in South America OuchTongue

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:44
Another US-specific (I think, please correct me if wrong) thing I don't really love as compared to where I come from: the tendency to immediately talk to somebody else using names. No "Mr X" or anything like that, no middle of the road between you and nothing (no formal second person like in Spanish where we have "usted"), Americans immediately jump to talk in first names and, again, and it may be my social awkwardness here, I feel people are trying to sell me something.  

Am I wrong? Does it happen everywhere? 


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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:44
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:




We tend to meet inebriated Swedes all through the summer much due to the same reason. They absolutely adore our alcoholic ways.


Before my visit I asked if I should bring anything with me (meaning to do my job, such as specialist tools, back-up discs, instruction manuals etc.) - the reply I received was: "1 litre bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label". Big smile


Sounds about right.
I'm not sure the alcohol laws of Sweden work the way they're supposed to. Keeping people, who basically stem from the Vikings, away from the drink makes the occasional party even crazier. Man I've seen some absurd cases at the Roskilde Festival - folks who clearly have been waiting months to go absolutely berserk. They may just have saved what tiny bit of pride left - if they'd had the same opportunity in their home country. Oh well I really can't complain. Some of these instances were absolutely hilarious and something I'll never forget. 50% of any festival is watching other people anyway.



And now that we have Midsummers Eve coming up the advice is;  don't go anywhere near a camping or marina, stay in town, it will be empty Beer LOL


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 09:46
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

The taxi ride into the city was something you'd pay good money for at an amusement park.
We got a taxi to the hotel from Bangalore airport. It was still dark in the early morning and foggy. Our driver came across a refuse lorry in the outside lane and some other lorry in the inside lane and he couldn't get past either of them the normal way, so he just drove straight up the middle of them. Shocked


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 10:04
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Another US-specific (I think, please correct me if wrong) thing I don't really love as compared to where I come from: the tendency to immediately talk to somebody else using names. No "Mr X" or anything like that, no middle of the road between you and nothing (no formal second person like in Spanish where we have "usted"), Americans immediately jump to talk in first names and, again, and it may be my social awkwardness here, I feel people are trying to sell me something.  

Am I wrong? Does it happen everywhere? 
It depends. In the UK we tend to be suspicious of over-familiarity, especially when someone is trying to sell you something, just because someone is using my first name I'm not going to assume that I'm getting "mate's rates" from them or that the deal is in any way special. But since I have difficulty saying my surname because of my accent (so it tends to come out as the noise a duck would make if it had a beak full of marbles) I generally just give my first name and spend the rest of the conversation being referred to as Mr Dean... Or if it is Starbucks "Dian"


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 10:26
Again, I'm certifiably socially awkward, but still think it's fake to start talking in first name basis with random strangers. I was always coached in my first job here in retail selling tvs and home theater products to always ask the name first and start using it over and over again to breed familiarity. I felt so damn fake when doing it. And then as I started to make one or two friends here and went out more in the regular world I see people exchanging names immediately and starting using them like that very moment. Sometimes it makes me feel all social interactions are buyer-customer ones. 

I insist this is probably a little bit of my atypical brain talking Tongue but I have never really seen this in all the countries I've gone to and, of course, in Ecuador. 


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Posted By: HosiannaMantra
Date Posted: June 21 2016 at 11:54
In Croatia, right wing politicians are never called Republicans. Except when someone's making comments on US politics.
And people here can be actually quite loud and willing to talk to strangers (especially when they're trying to get laid), perhaps unlike in some other parts of Europe, which is why Croats often call Scandinavians cold and reserved. On the contrary, I sometimes see them as refreshingly polite.
You can't avoid talks about gay rights and 90's Civil war here, our politicians constantly remind us not to forget arguing about those things.
Football (soccer for Americans, we don't recognize any other) can cure all the problems, but also make many new.
A glass of beer, wine or spirit during lunch or welcome is not drinking. And actual drinking is acceptable every day of the week. Everyone's drinking here.
Beware of drunken Croats who try to get laid with you. They'll most likely just follow you and talk about themselves for a while.
Also, we might offer you with tons of food and drinks. And refusing can be seen as an insult.
Money and salaries are not taboo themes in Croatia. Only taboo theme here are Civil war veterans. And religion in some smaller areas.




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