UK: UK vs KC: Discipline
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Topic: UK: UK vs KC: Discipline
Posted By: SteveG
Subject: UK: UK vs KC: Discipline
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 11:54
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UK's first album vs the reincarnated Discipline by KC. Which album do you prefer? ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 12:11
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Discipline. Algebraic, new wave lightning in a bottle. Managed to be lightyears ahead of its time, ultimately much more so than UK's itself forward thinking, AOR bending little masterpiece. -------------  
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Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 12:32
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UK... Holdsworth, Jobson, Wetton, Bruford. The super-est of super groups! ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: CapnBearbossa
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 12:53
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I wonder how senior a member I have to be, before I can vote in polls? Hmmm. Anyhow , I would vote for "Discipline" if I could. ------------- Will higher mighty force redeem the one who dropped the moral compass, failed to fulfill the dream? -Ian Anderson |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 13:27
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Discipline. -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 13:56
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I can dig UK every now and again. Discipline, on the other hand, is one of my least favourite albums ever released. ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 13:57
Once you have 40 posts ("forum groupie"), you're eligible to vote in polls. ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
CapnBearbossa wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 14:02
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KC ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 14:19
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UK by almost 2 stars. Yet I prefer its successor even more: it is in my top 10. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 14:40
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UK is excellent. Discipline is an album I listened to about three times and frankly, if you offered me the choice of listening to it again or facing a firing squad, I'd have to think carefully. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 14:57
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KC by the width of the Atlantic ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 15:56
I like both, but have to agree with LearsFool. Discipline was a leap forward. UK was a great restatement of the classic progressive sound. ------------- He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore |
Posted By: BunBun
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 16:06
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both are great albums, and UK's debut definitely give me KC vibes, not surprising considering Bruford and Wetton being in both. However, UK's debut is just incredible fusion, and fusion really is my kind of thing. Discipline is fantastic too, and probably the more progressive of the two, but I just love UK's debut enough to give them the edge. |
Posted By: BunBun
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 16:07
Just get to 40 points and you can vote on as many polls as you want  |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 16:18
THIS^ ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 16:18
And THIS^ ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 16:20
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I play both with equal frequency and enjoyment. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 17:38
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UK by far for me. Love Discipline but the second side of the album is boring to me. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 18:32
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The number of albums overall that could beat Discipline in my view is about... 1. (And not this one.) |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 19:00
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Discipline
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 19:58
| Discipline I guess, tomorrow might be UK. I like both, and depending on the mood I am, I could choose either. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 21:44
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Still haven't heard the first UK...Hehehe ------------- |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 26 2016 at 22:41
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Discipline. However if it was Danger Money rather than the debut, it'd be a much harder decision. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 00:34
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Crimson's Discipline ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 04:34
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Discipline +1 ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 04:56
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UK 80s KC does little for me
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 06:34
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UK by a wide margin ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 06:58
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I have never been a huge fan of KC. They have their moments but Discipline was certainly not one of them. On the other hand, UK's debut is a classic and easily gets my vote. I'm surprised this poll is close, I would have expected Discipline to run away with it. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 10:53
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Don't understand the love in this forum for Discipline; a rather sterile affair for the most part. At least UK 1 had some guts to it. And why hasn't Alaska been used in a foreboding segment of some great film yet? ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 14:21
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UK, both albums by them are excellent imho........I'm a fan of KC but Discipline just doesn't do it for me....but then I never have really cared that much for Belew's playing or singing. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: CapnBearbossa
Date Posted: July 27 2016 at 15:34
Ah, I see ... thanks, and  cheers------------- Will higher mighty force redeem the one who dropped the moral compass, failed to fulfill the dream? -Ian Anderson |
Posted By: Terrapin Station
Date Posted: July 28 2016 at 06:35
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UK is a good album. Discipline is a masterpiece. (Do you need to get a certain amount of "points" before you can vote in polls, by the way?--Oops, I see this was answered immediately above my post. One more to go.) |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 28 2016 at 08:08
| Discipline is more my thing---interesting new direction for a prog band at just the right time---going from totally British sound to a more NYC sound---never really loved UK----only Bruford project that was like just ok for me. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: July 28 2016 at 09:45
| Discipline easily ! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 28 2016 at 13:30
| UK a centimeter over Discipline, which was not King Crimson's greatest album, but both are fantastic albums of their own. Quite hard to compare. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 28 2016 at 16:49
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[QUOTE=twosteves]---interesting new direction for a prog band at just the right time---going from totally British sound to a more NYC sound---/QUOTE] Okay, I'm game. Define why it was the right time as well as what the "NYC sound" is. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 28 2016 at 17:16
Discipline by lightyears... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: July 28 2016 at 20:44
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The one with Bruford... er... Ok. Discipline for it's amazing future look while the UK is sort of like among the last of that era of symphonic prog rock. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 29 2016 at 06:06
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3 stars both. No real preference overall, although 'In the dead of Night' for me is better than anything on Discipline. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 29 2016 at 06:25
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UK's debut is a masterpiece imo 80's KC never did a damn thing for me (Minimalism yuk)
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: July 29 2016 at 23:26
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Discipline is KC at their best - intricate, tight, groundbreaking, the music of insanity, innovative. While I enjoy UK's debut, it is one of those albums where I admire the musicianship more than anything else. It has never jelled with me. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: July 30 2016 at 16:48
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I love UK, but it don't beat Discipline. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 31 2016 at 13:24
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Hmm....25 to 39 is fairly close.......some board stats: Discipline rates 4.11 and UK comes in at 4.09 here on PA....not much difference. I'm a KC fan (probably my favorite prog band if push came to shove...) but with Belew on board Fripp went in a direction that wasn't my cup of tea. There are some nice tracks on Discipline: Frame By Frame, Elephant Talk, but it doesn't grab me and some of the other tracks just seem to be exercises in weird soundtrack music. And I don't like the way Belew sings either. And imho Fripp has nothing on Holdsworth who is his equal in technical ability ; though Fripp did invent the 'Frippertronic' thing, I have always thought many were his equal on guitar in general. And add in Wetton, Bruford, and Jobson....how can you go wrong with UK? In the end it's a matter of subjective taste as always but if I were sitting around with a craft beer I'm going to put UK on before Discipline....if those were my two choices. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 13:45
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UK ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |