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Topic: Rush: Tom Sawyer VS Necromancer
Posted By: TexasKing
Subject: Rush: Tom Sawyer VS Necromancer
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 11:26
Which Rush song you prefer and why? 

I prefer Necromancer, and for me it's not even close. Tom Sawyer is so overrated, Necromancer is so underrated!
The main reason: Lifeson's amazing and underrated guitar work, esp. in the part III Return of the Prince. Necromancer is in my top 5 personal favorite Rush songs. 



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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 11:59
For me, Tom Sawyer isn't overrated, it's over exposed. After 35 years, I simply don't need to hear it anymore.

The Necromancer is one of my all time favorite Rush songs. In fact, I like Caress of Steel more than 2112 (gasp! shock! harrumph!)


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 12:03
Going for TS. I haven't heard the song in years, but it's as close to AOR that Rush ever got but still remained genuine.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 12:08
Bastille/Necromancer/Lamneth, all 3 smoke Tom Sawyer. 


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 13:20
^Yeah, I know, but who's going to vote for TS then? An uneven poll to say the least.

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Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 13:20
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Bastille/Necromancer/Lamneth, all 3 smoke Tom Sawyer. 

Agreed!


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 13:32
TS

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 13:34
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Yeah, I know, but who's going to vote for TS then? An uneven poll to say the least.


I've never known Moving Pics to have any trouble with affection around here?  Highest rated Rush album on PA, even higher rated than HemispheresSmile


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 13:42
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Yeah, I know, but who's going to vote for TS then? An uneven poll to say the least.


I've never known Moving Pics to have any trouble with affection around here?  Highest rated Rush album on PA, even higher rated than HemispheresSmile
Yeah, Finn, I know. But sometimes we get "I'm more prog than thou" and state the more complex and less popular, so I took the more popular. Both are good to me at certain times. But still unevenly matched, IMO.

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 14:19
The Necromancer because of the epic little yarn it unravels (among other things).

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 14:31
Tom Sawyer.


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 15:03
I like both, but Tom Sawyer is the better of these two.

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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 15:07
Necromancer subjectively (and the one I voted for) maybe Tom Sawyer objectively. (Better production, more mature writing, moferatelybetter lyrics, more solid guitar solo on Sawyer... But Necromancer is just too darned fun)

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 15:36
Tom Sawyer

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 15:43
Originally posted by HemispheresOfXanadu HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:

Necromancer subjectively (and the one I voted for) maybe Tom Sawyer objectively. (Better production, more mature writing, moferatelybetter lyrics, more solid guitar solo on Sawyer... But Necromancer is just too darned fun)
I just realized that I subjectively like Tom Sawyer, but objectively dislike it's popularity. Confused  Time for me to hit up on some math rock, or KC, or Johnny Cash for Christ sakes.

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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: October 13 2016 at 18:47
I think "The Necromancer" is a great song, but Tom Sawyer (even super-exposed) wins this game!


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 14 2016 at 04:44
Necromancer.
It just sounds more "raw" than Tom Sawyer (which is awesome in its own right).


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 14 2016 at 06:08
Not a massive fan of TS but the voice in Necromancer is a bit silly.


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: October 14 2016 at 06:26
Necromancer for me too, it has always been one of my favorite Rush songs and by far the best track on COS.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 14 2016 at 13:52
Hmmm...not a huge Rush fan but I'll take Sawyer over Necrodancer....which has this awful narration voice in it.

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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 14 2016 at 14:42
I would vote Necromancer over almost any song in existence. There's brilliance, and then there is The Necromancer.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 15 2016 at 05:12
Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

For me, Tom Sawyer isn't overrated, it's over exposed. After 35 years, I simply don't need to hear it anymore.

The Necromancer is one of my all time favorite Rush songs. In fact, I like Caress of Steel more than 2112 (gasp! shock! harrumph!)



Mostly this. Necromancer isn't among my top Rush tunes but I do prefer to listen to COS than 2112.

Tom Sawyer is fantastic, but again I agree not overated but arguably over played...

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 15 2016 at 06:37
Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:

I would vote Necromancer over any Rush song in existence. There's arena rock and AOR, and then there is The Necromancer.


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Posted By: WrytXander
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:35
Necromancer is a structural mess with some nice music in it. Tom Sawyer is a masterpiece.

Seriously, how can anyone say Necromancer is better than Tom Sawyer? You guys need to get checked for longsongaphilia.


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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:52
Hey, if liking Necromancer more than TS is wrong then I don't wanna be right.


Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 11:19
Originally posted by WrytXander WrytXander wrote:

Necromancer is a structural mess with some nice music in it. Tom Sawyer is a masterpiece.

Seriously, how can anyone say Necromancer is better than Tom Sawyer? You guys need to get checked for longsongaphilia.

I don't love it because it's long, I love it because it's one of the best damn songs ever made. I love Tom Sawyer too, but I'd still choose Necromancer if it was only the middle part of the song. 



Rush out-Sabbath's Black Sabbath on that part. Come on, you all know it's awesome.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 11:43
Right on Pastmaster....

Nothing to do with length (that's what she said)

It's rock and roll, where for some of us:   unbridled passion and youthful kickassness > mature composition. 


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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 12:03
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Right on Pastmaster....

Nothing to do with length (that's what she said)

It's rock and roll, where for some of us:   unbridled passion and youthful kickassness > mature componsition. 

Yup, that's what rock music is supposed to be about. That's why I could care less if the music I'm listening to is progressive. I'm a musician, so of course I love to hear some skill, but only if the band remembers to write real songs. There's no point in skill if you can't have the passion and songwriting to go with it. 


Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 11:54
Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Right on Pastmaster....

Nothing to do with length (that's what she said)

It's rock and roll, where for some of us:   unbridled passion and youthful kickassness > mature componsition. 

Yup, that's what rock music is supposed to be about. That's why I could care less if the music I'm listening to is progressive. I'm a musician, so of course I love to hear some skill, but only if the band remembers to write real songs. There's no point in skill if you can't have the passion and songwriting to go with it. 

This. Instrumentally brilliant, vocals great as well īcos fits the tune perfectly. Iīm not a musician, btw. 


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