Classical Music influence
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Topic: Classical Music influence
Posted By: maryes
Subject: Classical Music influence
Date Posted: November 02 2016 at 16:36
Classical Music , had an important influence in my passion of prog-rock music ( and I believe in many of you ). When I was very young I've passed a long time hearing (with my father) MOZART, BEETHOVEN, BACH, VIVALDI, ALBINONI, BRAHMS, COPLAND, LISTZ, DVORAK and other masters. The question that I propose is : Which are your favorite classical composers and his favorite pieces ? My list is: Beethoven: 5th,6th and 9th symphonies, Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat major, Op. 73 'Emperor' , Moonlight Sonata Violin Concerto in D major, Op.61 Romanza in fa+ per violino e orchestra Mozart: "A little night music" Symphony No. 40 in G minor Piano Sonata K.331 Dvorak: New World Symphony Bach : Brandenburg Concertos Toccata and Fugue in D Minor BWV 565 . Vivaldi: Guitar & Mandolin Concertos The Four Seasons Albinoni: Adagio in G Minor (Albinoni) Liszt : Liebestraum - Love Dream Hungarian Rhapsody No.2 Which is your list ?
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 03 2016 at 08:38
Shostakovich Stravinsky Ginastera
My top three.
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Posted By: ALotOfBottle
Date Posted: November 03 2016 at 08:48
If I'm not counting minimalist and avant-garde composers like Terry Riley, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Philip Glass, and Steve Reich, my top composers are Igor Stravinsky (Rite of Spring, Dumbarton Oaks Concerto, Firebird Suite) Bela Bartok (Dance Suite, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta) Olivier Messiaen (Organ Works, Turangalîla-Symphonie)
I also very much like Schoenberg, Szymanowski, Shostakovich, Wagner, and Bruckner.
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: November 03 2016 at 08:57
Ravel / Debussy / Satie - everything put esp. the piano pieces Chopin - Nocturnes Grieg / Smetana / Schubert / Lizst / Schumann / Dvorak etc. - the whole bunch of romantics Of course the popmusic of classical music; baroque: Bach / Händel / Telemann / Vivaldi / Corelli / Albinoni etc. Of course Beethoven and Mozart, but they are played to death everywhere, so no need to play them myselves. My favorites are (i guess)
Ma Vlast - Smetana Nocturnes - Chopin Pavane pour une infante défunte - Ravel Trois Gymnopédies - Satie Clair de Lune - Debussy Wassermusic - Händel Morgenstimmung - Grieg (cliché, but what the hell)
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: November 03 2016 at 08:57
And Steve Reich and Philip Glass.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2016 at 11:57
Stravinsky, Tschaikovskij, Ligeti, Orff....The more I think the more come to mind.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 03 2016 at 12:08
My top 3 are Beethoven, Mozart and Bach. I also love Hadel, Vivaldi, Haydn, Stravinsky, Mussorgski, etc. The list goes on and on.
My favorite symphonies, however, are Beethoven's 5th 6th and 9th, among many other beautiful ones.
My love for music started with my grandfather teaching me how to listen and understand music, and that's why I could not get into the pop/dancing oriented music, and that's the reason I got into the progressive side of modern (Back in the 70s it was considered modern) music of the times.
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: November 05 2016 at 01:16
I've just been led by a book to investigate Stockhausen as an influence on Krautrock and am greatly enjoying a couple of very strange and noisy compilation CDs also including Schaeffer, Xenakis, Varese, Henry, Ligeti and Cage . I'm not sure though how they fit into "classical" apart from being composed by people with degrees in music. British prog rock seems to have taken more from the older classical music - 19th century and earlier?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 05 2016 at 01:24
20th Century, the height of classical.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 05 2016 at 02:19
Bruckner-Symphonies 7,8,9
Berlioz-Symphonie Fantastique Funeral and Triumphal Symphony Roman Carnival Overture
Richard Strauss-Ein Heldenleben Also Sprach Zarathustra Symphonia Domestica
Mahler-Symphonies 1,6,7,9, Das Lied von der Erde
Beethoven-Symphonies 5,7,9, Piano Concertos 3-5
Elgar-Symphonies 1,2,3
Schoenberg-Verklarte Nacht Pierrot Lunaire
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Posted By: malsader
Date Posted: November 05 2016 at 03:32
Posted By: A_Flower
Date Posted: November 06 2016 at 16:56
Handel in the Strand by Grainger is a very wonderful piece
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 07 2016 at 01:30
Dmitri Shostacovich - String Quartets 3, 8, 10, 15... all of them. String Octet, Piano Quintet in G minor, Cello + both Violin concertos... almost everything but the symphonies.
Antonio Vivaldi - Salmo 126 Nisi Dominus (and the rest of Vespri per l'Assunzione di Maria Vergine) mm... Johannes Brahms - Alto Rhapsodie, Four Last Songs, String Sextet 1 & 2 Francois Couperin - Office des Tenebres, Motets Krzysztof Penderecki - Threnody For the Victims of Hiroshima, Utrenja, Dies Irae, String Quartet no. 1 Peteris Vasks - Musique du Soir pour Violoncelle et Orgue Franz Schubert - Death and the Maiden, String Quintet Allesandro Scarlatti - Motets, Salve Regina, Stabat Mater, La Folia Morton Feldman - Rothko Chapel Leos Janacek - Sting Quartet no. 1 (Kreutzer sonata) Claudio Monteverdi - Vespro Della Beata Vergine Jan Dismas Zelenka - Trio Sonatas (all 6) Bela Bartok - String Quartets (all 6) Johann Sebastian Bach - Matthäuspassion - Violin sonatas, Cello Suites, Cembalo Concertos... John Cage - In the name of the Holocaust ...
Beethoven, Handel, Mahler, Part, Debussy, Satie, Ravel... easier to mention those I don't care for.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 07 2016 at 04:40
I listened to Canon Rock back in the glory days of YouTube.... does it count as a "classical music influence"? ;)
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 07 2016 at 05:25
... ohohohArnold Schoenberg - Verklarte Nacht ...I'm afraid none of his later works (that I've heard) comes close in affecting me the way this pre-12 tone, late-romantic string sextet does.
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: November 07 2016 at 07:02
Igor Stravinsky - Le Sacre du Printemps - Histoire du Soldat - Petrouchka
Sergei Prokofiev - Lieutenant Kije - Romeo and Juliet - Symphony No. 1 in D-major
Leos Janacek - Sinfonietta - Mlady
Josef Suk - Fantastic Scherzo, Op. 25
Modest Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition (original piano version)
Zoltan Kodaly - Hary Janos
Bela Bartok - Rumanian Folk Dances for small orchestra
J.S. Bach - St. John Passion
W.A. Mozart - Requiem - Symphony No. 40 in G minor
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: November 11 2016 at 23:28
So, I bought a 1990s 2 CD set of the complete works of Varese and found it all very listenable. Is there any other serious "classical" music that combines orchestra and electronics/noise or other interesting sounds like this without becoming totally random? The original pioneering stuff though, not derivatives, so maybe up to the end of the analogue era in the 1970s.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 11 2016 at 23:39
Rominetti is interesting. The first classical composer using electric guitar. Some compositions by Ligeti could be Emerson Lake and Palmer (probably vice versa).
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 12 2016 at 00:20
Glass, Ligeti and Ives.
Not going to pick three favourite pieces.
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: November 12 2016 at 07:10
octopus-4 wrote:
Rominetti is interesting. The first classical composer using electric guitar. |
You'd think Google would come up with something, but no. Is there any of his music on the Web?
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 12 2016 at 09:49
A Sweet song uses motivs from a Grieg song 'Anitras Dance'
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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: November 12 2016 at 23:28
Some of these composers have a massive and very varied output but the 30 second samples in the Amazon digital store have been very helpful in skimming through. I've ordered a CD of Ligeti's Atmospheres, Volumina, Lux aeterna, Organ Harmonies, Lontano, Ramifications for strings, Melodien for orchestra and have listened to the MP3 download while the CD is in the post. Wonderful awe inspiring ambient yet interesting type music with a feeling of something beyond and much greater than the human world - just what I wanted .
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Posted By: Kimdino
Date Posted: November 18 2016 at 21:48
octopus-4 wrote:
Rominetti is interesting. The first classical composer using electric guitar. |
I also tried looking but couldn't find anything. Could you give us a pointer?
I would love to hear a proper 'Electric Guitar Concerto'. I believe it's the perfect instrument for a concerto, Mozart would have absolutely loved it. I have heard people try but they have been written by electric guitarists who have not properly understood the dynamics of a concerto. Malmsteen & Karatas spring to mind. Does anyone know of a GOOD electric guitar concerto?
Oh, yeah. Getting back on topic Too many to mention. Scattered from Bach to Shostakovich. Though Late Romantic piano concertos are very prominent in my favourites.
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Posted By: Kimdino
Date Posted: November 18 2016 at 21:56
Saperlipopette! wrote:
... ohohohArnold Schoenberg - Verklarte Nacht ...I'm afraid none of his later works (that I've heard) comes close in affecting me the way this pre-12 tone, late-romantic string sextet does. |
Thanks for the tip. Just finished listening and it is definitely one to remember.
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: November 19 2016 at 00:03
Gustav Holst was another influence. King Crimson and Black Sabbath took some stuff from "Mars" (the former covered it and the latter used it as a basis for "Black Sabbath") and Frank Zappa incorporated "Jupiter" into his "Call Any Vegetable" suite.
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