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Topic: Favourite Scandinavian prog scene
Posted By: charles_ryder
Subject: Favourite Scandinavian prog scene
Date Posted: December 22 2016 at 13:06
I voted Sweden as a country of Samla Mammas Manna, Anglagard, Anekdoten etc.



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 22 2016 at 15:15
difficult choice

Sweden was an obvious choice in the 70's & 90's and still running ok nowadays
Finland was big in the 70's & 00's, but has been on a low in the 10's
Norway has been the strongest in the millenium, IMHO
Denmark was ok in the 70's, but has been almost nowhere since


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 22 2016 at 17:10
Sweden.

Finland is great at symphonic metal, though.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 22 2016 at 18:26
Norway has closed the gap but it's still Sweden. 

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 00:55
I don't have much from Denmark, have quite a bit from Finland, and heaps from Sweden and Norway.
I'm leaning towards Norway......
The Smell Of Incense
White Willow
Elephant9
Arabs In Aspic
Panzerpappa
Wobbler
Tirill
Tusmorke
..........etc.....
Sweden has its share of talented bands I admire a lot too. But at this juncture, I'm going for Norway.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 01:44
Sweden. I know little Finnish prog, but there are some good ones. Norway is booming with 2016 being a good year for Norwegian prog.

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Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 02:09
A tie between Sweden and Norway for me.
 
Finland doesn't belong to Scandinavia by the way.


Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 02:27
Difficult. When I counted the bands, Denmark was last in line, mostly metal.

Also I had to ignore non-progbands (Neneh Cherry, a-ha, Abba, etc.)
Sweden and Norway have great bands, but Finland has: Uzva, Tasavallan Presidentii, Taipuva Luotisuora, Hidria Spacefolk etc.
 
Funny thing is Øresund Space Collective is Danish/Swedish.
 
I think all in all, Sweden is at top, because almost all music from, Sweden is topnotch.
I should have voted for Finland, because they have a lot of ethnic influences in their music (Uzva, Hidria Spacefolk etc.)
 
But I voted for Sweden because of Abba...
 
Just kidding, I voted for Norway because of this queen:
 
 
 


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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 02:29
Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

 
Finland doesn't belong to Scandinavia by the way.
 
True that. If one should include Finland, than Iceland should be included also....


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 02:38
Currently Norway. I agree to include Finland, Iceland and Far Oer. 

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 09:31
Iceland. :p

I'll go Norway just eking it out over Sweden.


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 09:54
Finding it very hard to choose.  

On the basis of current scene it would be Norway, no doubt.  

If considering all time, and especially if we look at total music scene rather than just prog, my heart belongs to Heart Finland Heart


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 10:42
Norway - Panzerpappa, elephant9, Jaga Jazzist
Sweden - Samla Mammas Manna, Simon Steensland, Anglagard, Gosta Berlings Saga, Diablo Swing Orchestra
Finland - Pekka Pojhola, Hoyry Kone, Alamaailman Vasarat
Denmark - Secret Oyster

I'll go Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 11:10
Norway and Finland is up there but Sweden takes the biscuit:
Dungen
Fläsket Brinner
Samla/Zamla/Von Zamla
Björn J:Son Lindh
Taste Of Blues
In The Labyrinth
Solar Plexus
Kebnekaise
Landberk
Fire! Orchestra
Eric Malmberg
Kornet
Goat
Our Solar System
Arkimedes Badkar
Les Big Byrd
Mats-Morgan Band
Kultivator
Tonbruket
Simon Steensland
Gösta Berlings Saga
International Harvester
Necromonkey
Anna Själv Tredje
Hooffoot
Morte Macabre
My Brother The Wind
Myrbein
Älgarnas Trädgård
Grovjobb
Agusa
Kvartetten Som Sprängdas
Endemble Nimbus
Nya Ljudbolaget
Bo Hansson
Kraldjursanstalten
Ragnar Grippe


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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 11:33
My preference mirrors the current vote count.  Sweden followed by Norway then Finland. 


Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 11:40
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I agree to include Finland, Iceland and Far Oer. 

I think Finland is a part of Scandinavia as a historical whole. I often visit Suomi and I saw many Swedish there. And in music too.
By the way, I heard a fine music on every street in Stockholm. Not a prog, but it's always beautiful - the folk, the rock and so on. And I think ABBA has many prog elements.

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

If considering all time, and especially if we look at total music scene rather than just prog, my heart belongs to Heart Finland Heart

Yes, many wonderful bands almost in every small Finnish town. Finnish music admires me.Clap
But in prog rock I vote Swedish scene.


Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 14:45
The only one of these that I'm not crazy for is Denmark (though they still had the fantastic Culpeper's Orchard back in the day).

Norway's put out some great stuff recently, but I think I'll have to vote for Sweden. And Finland is the winner if we only consider jazz fusion.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 23 2016 at 16:52
Love most of what's coming out of the present Norwegian jazz-prog scene, so there's where my vote goes.

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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: January 03 2017 at 04:39
Agree with the above - particularly the ECM label releases from Jan Garbarek, Terje Rypdal, etc. (although not 'present')


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: January 03 2017 at 04:47
Sweeden. Samla and BJ Son Lindh are crucial for me. 


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 03 2017 at 07:53
Originally posted by charles_ryder charles_ryder wrote:


I think Finland is a part of Scandinavia as a historical whole.
You may think that as much as you like but it doesn't make it any more correct.


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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: January 03 2017 at 08:42
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by charles_ryder charles_ryder wrote:


I think Finland is a part of Scandinavia as a historical whole.
You may think that as much as you like but it doesn't make it any more correct.


Scandinavia is defined by the mountain range called Skanderna. It runs through Norway, Sweden and nort west Finland. So yes, Charles R is more right than you are. Wink


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 03 2017 at 09:18
^No I'm more correct. 

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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: January 04 2017 at 14:12
Still Sweden:
Agusa
Anekdoten
Autumn breeze
Beardfish
Jonas Lindberg
Kaipa
Karmakanic
Moon safari
Opeth
Pain of salvation
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Norway now getting closer:
Airbag
Gazpacho
Leprous
Motorpsycho
Oak
Pymlico
Rendezvous point
Seven Impale
...


Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: March 09 2017 at 12:42
Dopeydoc, thanks for your bandlist, I'm not here some of them yet but now I will.Smile


Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: March 09 2017 at 15:03
DK.
Ache,Alrune Rod,Anima,Burnin' Red Ivanhoe,Blast, Furnace,Coma,Culpeper's Orchard,Day of Phenix,Dr. Dopo Jam,Drops,Heavy Joker,Hurdy Gurdy,Masala Dosa,Midnight Sun,Moirana,Old Man and the Sea,Pan,Savage Rose,Secret Oyster,Stig & Steen.


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 09 2017 at 16:05
I grow more besotted with my beloved Finland by the day.

My latest find is Veli Kujala's album Hyperorganism. Not prog, mind you, but wonderful.


Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: March 26 2017 at 22:06
Had to go with Sweden, despite some great RIO from Finland.  Finland also has some of my favorite rock and folk-rock musicians, but I guess they don't count.  I should note that the first prog band I saw from the Nordic countries was Danish:  the great Burnin' Red Ivanhoe.  Also, Secret Oyster, Alrune Rod and Doctor Dopojam.  I lived in Denmark for a year.

I believe if you ask a Finn, he/she will self-identify as Nordic, rather than Scandinavian, despite the admitted historical ambiguity.  The Finnish language isn't remotely related to the Scandinavian languages, or to anything else in Europe except for Hungarian and Estonian (and some dying regional languages in Russia).  They're Uralic languages.  All other European languages (except for Basque) are Indo-Aryan.  Iceland is also considered Nordic.  Icelandic is Indo-Aryan, but it split off from its Germanic roots a lot earlier than the Scandinavian 3 and isn't really mutually intelligible, the way they are.


Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: March 28 2017 at 12:46
Originally posted by socrates17 socrates17 wrote:

I believe if you ask a Finn, he/she will self-identify as Nordic, rather than Scandinavian, despite the admitted historical ambiguity.  The Finnish language isn't remotely related to the Scandinavian languages, or to anything else in Europe except for Hungarian and Estonian (and some dying regional languages in Russia).  They're Uralic languages.  All other European languages (except for Basque) are Indo-Aryan.  Iceland is also considered Nordic.  Icelandic is Indo-Aryan, but it split off from its Germanic roots a lot earlier than the Scandinavian 3 and isn't really mutually intelligible, the way they are.


Yes, I agree. But it's all about languages. How about the history and the culture? I think Finland is the part of the Swedish Empire - or mayby part of the Russian Empire.


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 01:46
SwedenSmile


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 02:22
Originally posted by gr8dane gr8dane wrote:

DK.
Ache, Alrune Rod, Anima, Burnin' Red Ivanhoe, Blast, Furnace, Coma, Culpeper's Orchard, Day of Phoenix, Dr. Dopo Jam, Drops, Heavy Joker, Hurdy Gurdy, Masala Dosa, Midnight Sun, Moirana, Old Man and the Sea, Pan, Savage Rose, Secret Oyster, Stig & Steen.


... To which I'd add Coronia Dans (same crowd as BRI and Secret Oyster

I own the following (I got rid of Rainbow/Midnight Sun)


However in the 90's and 00's, outside the weird post-rock of Efterklang, I don't remember anything else


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 21 2017 at 02:41
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by charles_ryder charles_ryder wrote:


I think Finland is a part of Scandinavia as a historical whole.
You may think that as much as you like but it doesn't make it any more correct.


Scandinavia is defined by the mountain range called Skanderna. It runs through Norway, Sweden and nort west Finland. So yes, Charles R is more right than you are. Wink


If it was that easy, then Denmark wouldn't be part of Scandinavia...
And I had to look it up, since I thought Finland is a fairly flat land, but yeah, there is this odd Finniish protuberance stretching between Sw and Nor where the highest altitude is 1017m.

We can talk about a cultural Scandinavia (or even an ethnic one, FTM), which includes Iceland, and why not, even Greenland) and Finland... OK, the Finns are ethnically vastly different than the rest of the Scandics, since their origins are Altaic, but there is a strong Swedish presence in the country... The Finns have spent hundreds of years tossed & turned between Russia and Sweden, and give them a choice, they'll go for the lesser of two evils: the Swedes.




Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: April 22 2017 at 17:30
Finland. Pekka Pohjola is the main reason for this, though Sweden is just behind ...


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: April 22 2017 at 20:01
Norway, easily. 



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