Pretend you’ve never heard King Crimson.
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Topic: Pretend you’ve never heard King Crimson.
Posted By: Man Overboard
Subject: Pretend you’ve never heard King Crimson.
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 05:12
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If your only exposure to King Crimson was http://aaron.thebackground.org/mystery.avi - this video , what catagory of prog would you classify it as? (encoded in http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/ - XviD ) ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 14:18
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 14:23
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thats it MO! 1. No man would ever want to pretend that he had never heard king crimson cos they are incredible 2. how the hell can you just magically erase any knowledge of what they sound like. YOU REALLY SUCK! ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 14:25
 The point I was trying to make is that the actions they do in this video are really crazy and definitely aren't "symphonic prog", it's almost closer to rock in opposition or even post-rock than anything else I can think of. I was wondering what everyone else thought as well. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 14:25
noise prog ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 14:27
anyway, cool video, where did you rip it off from? looks like live in japan 1995 but i'm not sure ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 14:56
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Certainly would not put it on to pick up women with or right before sex.
It reminds me of the Waitng Room by Genesis off of the Lamb and Totus Nemesis off the First Proto-Kaw CD.
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 14:59
Yeah, it's from the Japan show on the THRAK tour 
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 15:29
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sorry MO. KC are very hard to define as one genre indeed as their releases and different artists styles differ so much. GREAT DECIEVER!!! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 15:49
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I see it as some Crazy Sh** BTW calm down Frenchie that went too far |
Posted By: silentman
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 17:23
I’ve always categorized crimson improvised music as RIO, free-rock, avant-garde. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cichyczlowiek/?chartstyle=SilverWeekly"> 
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Man Overboard wrote:Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 17:40
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Punkprog? Nah, joking... ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: silentman
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 17:47
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King Crimson is to good to be prog ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cichyczlowiek/?chartstyle=SilverWeekly">
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 18:17
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That is weird........ Not very Proggish Anyways, Aaron, Frenchie owned you for the better! |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 18:24
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too bad I can't watch the movie |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 18:26
Frenchie didn't own me one bit. I asked what this ONE PIECE would be classified as, disregarding whatever opinions one may have about King Crimson. If anything, you just owned yourself. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 19:44
owned? I want trying to purchase/adopt/obtain any one on this thread. Just the thought of even pretending i had to give up all my great krimson listening is insulting! I love MO really, i find him to be one of the posters on this forum who i always look out for cuz i know he's gonna say something intelligent, humourous and/or intruging and interesting. Perhaps this was one of the weaker posts of his. ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 20:14
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I really just wanted to show off this video, it's a lot different than the idea that most people have of King Crimson.
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 05:54
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I think KC also created the standard for the sound of symphonic prog with their 1st album, so they were stigmatized with that genre. |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 05:55
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I'm not able to watch it! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Could you describe it for me?! Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 12:47
If you're having trouble watching it, install http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/ - this .  So it starts off with a guy making all kinds of atmospheric, paranoid, post-rockish sounds with his guitar, and then TWO drummers come in and do some crazy stuff for a while, then the full band comes in and there's an upright electric bass, a 12-string bass (WTF?), and a second guitarist in the mix, and after a few really noisy, dissonant riffs, they break into what I can only describe as improvisational performance art. The guitarist up front's use of guitar synth (to play jazzy piano) is awesome, but it doesn't even compare to his use of a POWER DRILL on the guitar. Let's not forget the guy with the upright electric bass, who uses a bow and his fingers. Or the freakish bursts of noise from the guitarist hiding in the back. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 12:55
12 string bass?! what the hell is that? ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 12:56
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HEY I'M A SENIOR MEMBER NOW!!!!!!! ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 13:14
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King Crimson and ELP leave me cold.I have tried again and again but I just DON'T like them!!! ELP were ego-prog and King Crimson just.......not my cup of tea.Maybe one day my eyes will be opened to their merits,who knows. ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 13:52
 Yeah. I tried to make my
description as ambiguous as possible, I wrote it originally for another
forum I go to where prog is much maligned... I wanted to describe
it more as post-rock or experimental rock, rather than prog... ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 14:40
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I AGREE WITH YOU..... ------------- you and whose army? |
Posted By: yesman72
Date Posted: September 02 2005 at 21:53
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Of course thats symphonic. It's just strange weird symphonic. Not sure I'll ever wanna watch that again. Neat musical ideas but unfortunatley they didn't form a cohesive piece of music. Much love and peace toi all. |