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Topic: King Crimson USA 2017
Posted By: Finnforest
Subject: King Crimson USA 2017
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 14:34
The band will spend much of the year in the States.  

http://www.jambase.com/article/robert-fripp-confirms-king-crimson-tour-us-2017" rel="nofollow - http://www.jambase.com/article/robert-fripp-confirms-king-crimson-tour-us-2017



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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 14:38
And now with four drummers!Shocked

I have thoroughly enjoyed the dvd of the last tour with three drummers, so it will be interesting to see how this one goes.


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 14:49
Steve are you talking about the Radical Action package?


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 16:14
Wow...four drummers. I like it.
 
Hopefullly I'll be able to catch one of these shows.


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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 07 2017 at 23:52
Sadly I missed them for two consecutive years now in Europe, I hope I can catch them in Seattle in february/march when I should be there...


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 09:34
Since Bill Rieflin is a multi-instrumentist, do you think he will play as a fourth drummer?
I don't know what are the plans of Fripp for the next concerts (does he intend to cover Xenakis' "Pleiades"?!), but touring with four drumsets already looks like heavily burdening in terms of logistics... How many trucks does one need to travel with four drumsets?


Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 11:58
Cool. Saw them in San Fran during the last west coast tour. Will definitely head out to the west coast to see them again this go around...

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Posted By: TronFlutes
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 12:09
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Since Bill Rieflin is a multi-instrumentist, do you think he will play as a fourth drummer?
I don't know what are the plans of Fripp for the next concerts (does he intend to cover Xenakis' "Pleiades"?!), but touring with four drumsets already looks like heavily burdening in terms of logistics... How many trucks does one need to travel with four drumsets?
  Oh c'mon, this is 2017 dude. They'll probably tour with a 3D printer and output 4 sets of disposable kits for each gig.  Wink


Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 14:43
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

And now with four drummers!Shocked

I have thoroughly enjoyed the dvd of the last tour with three drummers, so it will be interesting to see how this one goes.
 
Four drummers?
 
That might come close to one Bill Bruford.


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 10:37
with the same old material?

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 11:12
I might just have to make it a third time to see them.  I saw them twice in the 90s, including the double trio.  Unfortunately, both occasions were marred by bad sound - one of them among the worst I have ever heard.  It was in a beautiful concert hall definitely not designed for loud heavily distorted and intricate rock.  They simply overwhelmed the facility and the whole show was basically a wall of noise.  Of course, that may have been the way Fripp wanted it. Wink

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 11 2017 at 19:50
Hi,

I'm thinking that the extra person is to help take the load off Fripp and allow the middle drummer to do more keyboards. It will make the show even stronger, I bet.


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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: January 15 2017 at 05:48
crossing my fingers for a Dallas-Fort Worth show. 


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 15 2017 at 06:04
So if it is a double quartet one would assume that each quartet has one guitarist, a drummer and a drummer / keyboardist. One quartet would have a bass player and one a saxophonist.

Then again, who knows...

I would like to see them focus more on the 80s and later repertoire and/or new material, and would go to see them again if they the hit UK if that was the case. Well, I'd probably go anyway.


Posted By: Terrapin Station
Date Posted: January 15 2017 at 11:22
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

with the same old material?


Exactly, how about a new studio album? 

I'm not at all a fan of bands touring without new material.  I like the old model of album-tour-album-tour-album-tour - live album while they take a break, then repeat starting with another new album.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 15 2017 at 17:44
teaser from the 2015 tours....




Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: January 16 2017 at 07:47
Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

I'm not at all a fan of bands touring without new material.  I like the old model of album-tour-album-tour-album-tour - live album while they take a break, then repeat starting with another new album.


I'm of the opposite mind - I'm simply happy that King Crimson are still active and touring.   I'm sure the set list isn't going to be completely identical to the 2014/2015 tours, plus the addition of extra players suggests we may get to see more improv pieces at these upcoming shows.

Even if the set list were to be 100% the same - so what?  It's King Crimson.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 16 2017 at 09:42
Originally posted by Terrapin Station Terrapin Station wrote:

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I'm not at all a fan of bands touring without new material.  I like the old model of album-tour-album-tour-album-tour - live album while they take a break, then repeat starting with another new album.

In this case ... this is no different than going to see a classical concert and a big name conductor is doing Stravinsky's "The Rite of Spring", or Beethoven's 5th, or Mahler's 3rd. However, we could say, that here this is Stravinsky conducting Stravinsky.

Don't pass up, this once in a lifetime thing. It is a very special show, and totally amazing, if you have the guts to shut your eyes, and just fly with the music. 

It's impressive. And something that you will remember for the rest of your life, unlike most of the silly rock shows. 

This whole thing, makes it hard to go backwards and listen to pop music again ... and this is the part that I think many folks are reacting to, maybe?


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: January 18 2017 at 18:55
According to dgmlive.com, KC has just announced the first show of their upcoming US Tour:

King Crimson have confirmed they will be appearing at the Rochester Jazz Festival on Friday June 30th. Tickets for this show go on sale on Friday 20th January. This is the first date to be announced in a schedule that will see the Double Quartet on active service from June 13th to July 15th. Further dates for the full tour will be announced in the coming weeks.

Robert's diary entries suggest there existing repertoire will at a minimum be reworked and could include additional items:

Existing repertoire will be re-calibrated for the about-to-be-becoming King Crimson Double Quartet Formation. King Crimson is the first group of which Jeremy has been a full-member. Jeremy became a full-contributor to the Seven-Headed Beast during the 2017 EuroTour, a remarkable achievement for Jezza to adopt the entire repertoire on both drums and keyboards. Bill is presently returning from his Sabbatical, and now The Beast has Eight Heads.

Jeremy and Bill are both multi-instrumental, so King Crimson is likely to be making a lot more noise than before.

I for one could care less about new repertoire being added - although it would be nice. Even if material that has previously been played is included in the next tour, which undoubtedly will be, it will no doubt be reworked significantly to match the personnel included in this upcoming tour. I for one, look forward to comparing this incarnation to the previous.

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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: January 19 2017 at 04:24
Nice.....Rochester is barely an hour from where I live. I may get to see Crim 3-4 times this year based on their usual stops in my area.

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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: January 19 2017 at 04:29
Make up your goddamn mind Robert Fripp LOL

As much as many of us would want the band to live on forever, one minute it's over then the next minute it's on tour Wacko


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 19 2017 at 06:17
^Well, I suppose that if Belew and his pals didn't tour as "Crimson Projekt", Fripp would have gladly enjoyed retirement - except that he would have spent his days asking YouTube to erase unauthorised live videos of KC instead of cultivating flowers and resolving murder mysteries like any good over-sixty-years old British people do.


Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: January 19 2017 at 06:32
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

^Well, I suppose that if Belew and his pals didn't tour as "Crimson Projekt", Fripp would have gladly enjoyed retirement - except that he would have spent his days asking YouTube to erase unauthorised live videos of KC instead of cultivating flowers and resolving murder mysteries like any good over-sixty-years old British people do.

Yeah, it's confusing. There have been a few bands that have done similar things, promote your big farewell tour then get back together and tour again the next year LOL

But Belew can sure put on a good show Clap


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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: January 19 2017 at 06:32
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

..... instead of cultivating flowers and resolving murder mysteries like any good over-sixty-years old British people do.


heh


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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 01 2017 at 07:15
I want to see KC.  Hope they make it to Dallas-Fort Worth.


Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 18:50
Tour dates released:

http://www.dgmlive.com/news/KC_Radical_Action_2017" rel="nofollow - https://www.dgmlive.com/news/KC_Radical_Action_2017

See you in Seattle...


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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 19:37
^ Awesome. I was considering going to Terra Incognita in May to get my live prog fix for the year, but I think I'll just save up and catch one of those early July shows instead.

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Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 19:52
I saw them back in the 80s 3 times. It was nice to have consistency in the lineup. Wish I could have seen them '73-'74 the ultimate lineup. I like the more compact KC lineups. When Fripp started with the double trio sh*t I went.. whaaaat? This double quartet crap is just King Crimson in name. Crimson belonged to an era. They also fit in nicely from 1980-84. Now it's just a conflagration. Whoever Fripp can get. Not saying it will be sh*t but don't look at it as KC per se. Might go to the Toronto show if my schedule permits.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 20:43
Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

Make up your goddamn mind Robert Fripp LOL

As much as many of us would want the band to live on forever, one minute it's over then the next minute it's on tour Wacko


LOL


Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 21:06
It must be nice to be GOD.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 23:12
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Tour dates released:

http://www.dgmlive.com/news/KC_Radical_Action_2017" rel="nofollow - https://www.dgmlive.com/news/KC_Radical_Action_2017

See you in Seattle...
 
waiting for those NYC dates...


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 23 2017 at 07:01
I'll be at the Seattle show........Still waiting for tixs to go on sale. Not doing the Royal Package, $365/ea...ouch!

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Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: February 23 2017 at 07:33
Assuming it's affordable, I'll hopefully be making the Seattle show. 


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 23 2017 at 11:23
The Moore Theater, will guess range to be $55-$85

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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: February 23 2017 at 19:54
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The Moore Theater, will guess range to be $55-$85

Saw KC in San Fransisco at the Warfield in 2014. If memory serves, tickets were something like $85 or $90.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 23 2017 at 20:02
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The Moore Theater, will guess range to be $55-$85

Saw KC in San Fransisco at the Warfield in 2014. If memory serves, tickets were something like $85 or $90.

That works......just need them to go onsale now.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 09 2017 at 11:29
Tickets for Seattle show bought..Man these are going fast! Went on sale at 10PST, I bought at 10:02 and got middle of left section......F*ing ticket bots!!!

I'm going and that's all that matters....


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Posted By: TronFlutes
Date Posted: March 09 2017 at 12:50
Ticketb*****d got hammered by bots the first day of sale for the Toronto show as well. I took the day off work & sat refreshing the screen for most of the day, watching each pair of prime, clicked-upon seats I reserved disappear as the software refused to complete every transaction. By mid afternoon I gave up refreshing and ordered by phone. Ticketb*****d's voice recognition robot offered me seats that were as far away from the band as you could get without standing outside the venue. Bitterly disappointed. Resale tickets at 2 to 5 times purchase price were already offered online before noon. Ticketb*****d 'limiting' purchases to 8 tickets per person probably didn't help matters for fans like me, who only wanted a pair.


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: March 09 2017 at 23:24
Didn't your areas have a pre-sale?  I got a presale for the Denver show; Row 5 in the right (left?) side of the stage.


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 10 2017 at 00:37
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Tickets for Seattle show bought..Man these are going fast! Went on sale at 10PST, I bought at 10:02 and got middle of left section......F*ing ticket bots!!!

I'm going and that's all that matters....

When I go on it says general sales don't start until March 17. I'm confused. Then again, $37 for rear balcony and $100 to be close? Sort of less than enthusiastic about that price, even for the Moore...even for Fripp's Crimson.


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Posted By: TronFlutes
Date Posted: March 10 2017 at 06:27
RE: Toronto show. The first day of sale I mentioned WAS the presale day. LiveNation had an easy to find password (which I was using) and sections were reserved for American Express card holders as well. I found out after the fact the only reliable way to order on that day was with a Ticketmaster smartphone app. Either their online software failed or it couldn't handle the onslaught of professional scalper demand. I guess when you have a monopoly, you really don't have to give a crap. Yea, I'm bitter.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 10 2017 at 13:02
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Tickets for Seattle show bought..Man these are going fast! Went on sale at 10PST, I bought at 10:02 and got middle of left section......F*ing ticket bots!!!

I'm going and that's all that matters....

When I go on it says general sales don't start until March 17. I'm confused. Then again, $37 for rear balcony and $100 to be close? Sort of less than enthusiastic about that price, even for the Moore...even for Fripp's Crimson.

Yes public gen sales is next week.....good luck! I am sure some were saved. 
I have an STG (Seattle Theater Group) code to unlock the pre-sale event.

Still the ticket bots blew the first 20 rows out within 1-2 minutes....They are already on StubHub and various other online ticket sites for 2-3x value. I paid $87.00 a pc........I am happy regardless.


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 21:01
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Tickets for Seattle show bought..Man these are going fast! Went on sale at 10PST, I bought at 10:02 and got middle of left section......F*ing ticket bots!!!

I'm going and that's all that matters....

When I go on it says general sales don't start until March 17. I'm confused. Then again, $37 for rear balcony and $100 to be close? Sort of less than enthusiastic about that price, even for the Moore...even for Fripp's Crimson.

Yes public gen sales is next week.....good luck! I am sure some were saved. 
I have an STG (Seattle Theater Group) code to unlock the pre-sale event.

Still the ticket bots blew the first 20 rows out within 1-2 minutes....They are already on StubHub and various other online ticket sites for 2-3x value. I paid $87.00 a pc........I am happy regardless.

I think at this point I would rather see 3-4 smaller shows at Croc for the same total cost. Or 2 shows and and chile rellanos for me and my wife. 

What are your STG dues if you don't mind me asking?


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 10:54
^ No dues...just sign up for the news letter.

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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 12:01
Will definitely do that. Thanks.

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Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: March 13 2017 at 17:17
Originally posted by TronFlutes TronFlutes wrote:

RE: Toronto show. The first day of sale I mentioned WAS the presale day. LiveNation had an easy to find password (which I was using) and sections were reserved for American Express card holders as well. I found out after the fact the only reliable way to order on that day was with a Ticketmaster smartphone app. Either their online software failed or it couldn't handle the onslaught of professional scalper demand. I guess when you have a monopoly, you really don't have to give a crap. Yea, I'm bitter.

What happened to the days when you would skip school and  line up at Ticket Master at 6 AM in the morning? 


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 13 2017 at 17:34
^Ticket Master was the beginning of the end for fair ticketing. The fairness of a lineup ended when venues outsourced.

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