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Hot Rats or In the Court of the Crimson King?

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Topic: Hot Rats or In the Court of the Crimson King?
Posted By: TexasKing
Subject: Hot Rats or In the Court of the Crimson King?
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 07:47
Vote and discuss.




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Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 07:56
KC


Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 08:06
Vote: Hot Rats
Discuss: they were both released on the same day


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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 08:08
I was always middle of the road when it came to Zappa but I'm not into KC so Frank gets the vote.


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 09:28
Really, I'm not sure for whom to vote: the two albums start with strong and defining pieces, but the other tracks sound to me weaker than the opening songs.
Yet, I think I would have a slight preference for In the Court..., especially because of the title track.


Posted By: Scorpius
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 09:37
In the court still would have won for me even if Moonchild was 30 minutes long instead of 12.


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 09:45
No contest, ITCOTCK.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 09:48
Hot Rats for the holy trilogy of Peaches, Umbrella and Camel. 3 strokes of sonic genius. Love the redt of the slbum but those three are simply out of this world; made me think about music in a new and exciting way - hell they still do. What I really dig about em is that they should't work. Some of the music literally defies logic and indeed musical sense - becomes something wholly....errm...other. Chocolate and bacon.

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 10:10
In The Court today. It might change tomorrow. Both fantastic albums to my taste.


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 11:44
Both are 2* albums, but I prefer King Crimson - for once.

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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 11:58
Court, while being only my 5th favourite of the classic King Crimson albums, is still a masterpiece. Try as I might to find faults in it, I always find something new to appreciate whenever I put it on. 

Never quite understood the love for Hot Rats, though; guess I'll have to give it another listen.


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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 12:02
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Discuss: they were both released on the same day


Also, both have a guy named Ian (Underwood for Rats, McDonald for Court) who play an insane amount of keyboards, winds and reeds.


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Posted By: EddieRUKiddingVarese
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 14:58
I like KC but Hot Rats wins here

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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 15:02
Definitely Hot Rats!
For KC, I'd prefer Lizard or Larks probably


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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 15:18
Both amazings albums,  tough to pick one of them, finally voted kc


Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 15:29
Hot Rats


Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: January 08 2017 at 22:27
King Crimson

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:10
That's a tough one. In terms of listening pleasure they're about at equal level to me although I'm less moody about Hot Rats, ITCOTKC is top on some days and I can't bear it on others. The historical significance and innovation of Crimson's one makes it a tight winner.


Posted By: Kespuzzuo
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:17
The King Crimson album is one of the most important albums in rock history, Prog Rock would be completely different without that album. Hot Rats is important too, not as much as ITCotCK, but, in my opinion, it's more pleasant and delicious.
Voting for King Crimson


Posted By: Terrapin Station
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:18
Hot Rats easily for me. 

Both artists are top 10ish for me, but Zappa in my #2 while Crimson isn't higher than #7 (my order never changes from 1 through #6, after that it tends to shift around).  Also, I'd probably rank Hot Rats around the lower middle of a Zappa album ranking, but In the Court of the Crimson King would easily be in last place of a Crimson album ranking for me.  I do like In the Court, but I like every other Crimson album more.  The only Crimson-related stuff I'd rank below In the Court are some of the ProjeKct albums.


Posted By: Terrapin Station
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:20
Originally posted by Kespuzzuo Kespuzzuo wrote:

The King Crimson album is one of the most important albums in rock history, Prog Rock would be completely different without that album. Hot Rats is important too, not as much as ITCotCK, but, in my opinion, it's more pleasant and delicious.
Voting for King Crimson


If I were strictly considering historical/cultural importance, I'd rate In the Court a lot higher, but historical/cultural importance are completely irrelevant to me when I'm rating how much I like something.


Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 08:07
KC - ITCOTCK 5 stars++
FZ - HR 5 stars+

Two masterpieces.


Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 08:13
love both but

Crimso


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 08:46
Again, KC since they are my favorite prog band........though I really like Hot Rats, played it a lot at college,  but it simply doesn't have the power and grandeur that the first Crimson album does....but in the end they are completely different animals and it is a strange comparison of albums for a poll.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 09 2017 at 10:02
Tough call as I love both.

FZ this time around.


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 10 2017 at 12:16
Court

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:19
I love this Zappa record, but I had to give it to KC on this one.

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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 03:18
KC

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