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Is Styx album The Grand Illusion prog?

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Topic: Is Styx album The Grand Illusion prog?
Posted By: TexasKing
Subject: Is Styx album The Grand Illusion prog?
Date Posted: January 28 2017 at 12:55
In Styx discography on PA all of their albums are labeled as prog-related.
But I think this album should definitely fall under a "prog rock" term. 
What do you think?



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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 28 2017 at 12:56
I would say yes.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: January 28 2017 at 21:26
This album, yes.  The remainder of their discography, most of which I enjoy quite a bit, I have to say no.  Leanings towards Prog, most certainly.  Hence, Prog-Related is an appropriate designation.


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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: January 28 2017 at 22:28
I would say yes, as well as with many of their other albums. I've always thought they would fit fine in symphonic prog or crossover prog honestly.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 28 2017 at 23:16
I would also say yes to this album....In general thou prog-related works

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 29 2017 at 00:20
I'd say that Styx's proggiest album (by far) is their debut... But it's clearly the worst prog album ever recorded

I enjoyed immensely their albums from Equinox to Po8, but let's face, there was the odd proggy track (like Castle Walls), but the rest was brilliant pomp-rock


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 29 2017 at 02:41
I have it, I used to think it was prog, but now I think it's prog-related pomp rock and I haven't listened to it in 20 years because it just isn't that good. It's a 3* album of a band trying to be prog and only half succeeding.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 29 2017 at 10:38
Castle Walls was prog. I'm not sure about the rest. Come sail away was proggish especially with the synths. Great album regardless. I can't really decide so I won't vote.


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: January 29 2017 at 11:29
Prog Rock



Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 29 2017 at 12:00
I would say, maybe. But not as much as Pieces of Eight.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 30 2017 at 14:11
no

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 30 2017 at 19:40
Yes

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 30 2017 at 20:45
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 10:52
Most (all?) of the Wooden Nickel stuff is much proggier than anything that came after.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 15:39
Prog? Get a grip. Gezz-us!

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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 01 2017 at 08:53
Equinox
Crystal Ball
The Grand Illusion
Pieces Of Eight

Those four were Prog. All the rest - not so much!!!


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: February 01 2017 at 18:26
I won't vote because I don't think it matters much.  I think it's their best album but still think it's only 3 stars.  


Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: March 30 2017 at 02:16
OK album with some stylings borrowed from the usual suspects.  To me it's '70s era rock album with a prog arrangement that was more or less fashionable at the time. But there is nothing in the realm of say And You And I. It was merely a way of performing the songs which could have been done as disco number they were so essentially generic. Could've been Saturday Night Fever contenders.

Moreover prog rock is an essential composite of classical scope and detail using rock to drive the dynamics. Illusion doesn't really do any of this. I found it disappointing - which is made worse as I had little expectation in the first place.

Some of the other albums before it are more listenable to me as rock pieces never mind prog rock.

I know AOR is a format rather than a style but this seems to be the orientation (rather than musical direction) of Styx - and where they were very successful.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 30 2017 at 02:27
Dennis DeYoung is a Classically trained Pianist. He applies his skills to his playing in Styx.


Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: March 30 2017 at 15:40
I think Styx is prog in Equinox, Crystal Ball,The Grand Ilusion and Pieces of Eight. but , The Grand Illlusion is really their great prog moment !


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 30 2017 at 23:30
^ Um, regarding Prog Styx - The Serpent Is Rising is my kind of Styx-Prog


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 02 2018 at 02:19
I lean more towards yes.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 02 2018 at 04:02
No, just another arty AOR band.

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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 02 2018 at 04:14
Sufficiently prog to get a yes. My favourite album by them. Always thought the term pomp rock was an attempt to include bands like this with a proggy influences over a more mainstream rock foundation.

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