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Topic: John Wetton - outside of Crim/UK/Asia
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: John Wetton - outside of Crim/UK/Asia
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 08:15
RIP

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 09:27
Words cannot express my sorrow. Goodbye, sir.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 09:28
UK. Danger Money is in my top 10 and features three of my favourite songs he was involved in.

From this list I pick Mogul Thrash. Nice bass playing.


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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 09:43
I liked UK better than King Crimson.
And I liked Payne-era Asia better than Wetton-era Asia

I did enjoy Wetton/Manzanera and the first Wetton-solo album from 1980 (Caught in the Crossfire?)

He only recorded 1!! (mediocre) album with the Ash and two albums with Heep, of wich Return to Fantasy was rather great. But I have no idea what Wetton's input was. Hensley was always the great songwriter.

I don't know Family that well (have listened to albums without Wetton) and I have no idea what Mogul Trash is like.

I voted for Heep, because of Return to Fantasy.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 10:37
I've heard some of the stuff he did with Uriah Heep but I don't know the others. 


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 11:02
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

UK. Danger Money is in my top 10 and features three of my favourite songs he was involved in.

From this list I pick Mogul Thrash. Nice bass playing.
 
Same here, I love that album! Clap
 
I went with Heep!


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 12:35
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:


He only recorded 1!! (mediocre) album with the Ash and two albums with Heep, of wich Return to Fantasy was rather great. But I have no idea what Wetton's input was. Hensley was always the great songwriter.

Wetton co-wrote a couple of songs on 'Heep's High and Mighty and sang the lion's share of the album's opener One Way or Another.

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 12:40
Viva! Roxy Music is the one I'm most familiar with, so that's where my vote goes.

RIP John.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 12:43
Danger Money came when I was about to quit Prog.

Like a breeze of fresh air or more precisely an oxigene pump for the genre.

Thank you John.

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 14:00
Out of this list Roxy Music. Prefer his work with UK and Asia.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 14:37
UK in general, MT from this list.

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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 15:02
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:


He only recorded 1!! (mediocre) album with the Ash and two albums with Heep, of wich Return to Fantasy was rather great. But I have no idea what Wetton's input was. Hensley was always the great songwriter.

Wetton co-wrote a couple of songs on 'Heep's High and Mighty and sang the lion's share of the album's opener One Way or Another.


I know. Worst Heep album ever. Only Weep in Silence and Footprints in the Snow are fine. (Apparently the two sings Wetton co-wrote... go figure)
One Way Or Another I find dreadfull. Terrible singing aswell.
But Hensley wasnt such a great singer and Wetton was a baritone, not realky suitable for that type of hardrock.


Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 15:26
I also didn't include UK but forgot to put that in the title.Embarrassed

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 16:15
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:


He only recorded 1!! (mediocre) album with the Ash and two albums with Heep, of wich Return to Fantasy was rather great. But I have no idea what Wetton's input was. Hensley was always the great songwriter.

Wetton co-wrote a couple of songs on 'Heep's High and Mighty and sang the lion's share of the album's opener One Way or Another.


I know. Worst Heep album ever. Only Weep in Silence and Footprints in the Snow are fine. (Apparently the two sings Wetton co-wrote... go figure)
One Way Or Another I find dreadfull. Terrible singing aswell.
But Hensley wasnt such a great singer and Wetton was a baritone, not realky suitable for that type of hardrock.
Yeah, I once read that Hensley said the band had really lost its footing with 'Mighty. Do disagree with you about the singing on 'Another. Wetton warbling it was the reason I picked up the album. I just wish Hensley hadn't sung the bridge. But I know little about 'Heep as I'm not a fan.

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 31 2017 at 16:56
Roxy Music or Uriah Heep. If he had stayed with Heep a little longer, it would have been an amazing thing.


Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: February 01 2017 at 00:17
Outside those, I immediately remembered David Cross's Exiles, This is Your Life.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 01 2017 at 07:46
Hi,

In FAMILY, it was a bit too sketchy and weird and it was, in many ways, much more "progressive" than what FAMILY became (a serious power rock/blues band) even as STREETWALKERS, a bit later.

In ROXY MUSIC, I thought he was more of a fill in than he was actually a member of the band, since by that time ROXY MUSIC was already on the decline, and not exactly at the top as they had been earlier. I am not sure that JW's work is as clear and visible in there as it would have been in FAMILY, for example. And I think that his role in URIAH HEEP and WISHBONE ASH was more as a capable fill in and addon, than it was as a creative force on its own right.


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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 01 2017 at 08:34
Atoll



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