Tarkus VS Ys
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Topic: Tarkus VS Ys
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Subject: Tarkus VS Ys
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 15:36
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 15:53
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Two albums I don't play very often......well I like the Tarkus title track better than Ys ,but overall Ys is a better album than the rest of the tracks on Tarkus.....imho. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 16:11
exactly my thoughts ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
dr wu23 wrote:Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 16:14
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Epilogo beats everything on Tarkus by a wide margin. Probably everything by ELP. Tarkus is probably the second most overrated (such an overrated word...) album of "classic" prog, second only to Le Orme's Uomo Di Pezza. Tarkus side 1 is bearable enough, side 2 is a laughable clusterf**k of incompetency, misdirection, and awkwardness. IMO of course... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 18:53
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Any album with a student drawing of a space-age armadillo on the cover wins. Tarkus has the best correlation between music & artwork, and was also the best example of progressive r-o-c-k at the time. Maybe ever. But Ys is very good, too. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwin646Z17HSAhUDzGMKHSw4BDYQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstraighttovideo.org%2F2011%2F09%2Ftarkus%2F&psig=AFQjCNFahfVCwBx2yJYW8RIdCf2BZbCC4g&ust=1488333128611499" rel="nofollow">  ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 18:58
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Tarkus. But only because I haven't heard the other album. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 20:27
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Ys all the way man. Obviously ELP was influential in developing that album's sound, but I can't not vote for perfection. Explosive, incendiary... if you want prog with some balls to it, then look no further, because no one has slapped all those frilly, fluffy symphonic-lite bands square in the face harder than the Bronze Ballet! ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 27 2017 at 20:28
| For me it is really between the title song of Tarkus and the combo Introduzione/Primo Incontro... Of course Tarkus is genius to me, but so it the YS combo, and while the middle "mass" section of Tarkus is really annoying for me, the YS songs flow perfectly for me... plus, the other songs from YS, though I don't like them as much, are easily better than the ones on Tarkus... so YS it is for me. |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 02:58
| Obviously, my vote is for one of the greatest prog tracks ever recorded - I never tire of it after listening to it for more than 40 years. The other one? Not bad. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 04:35
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Il Balletto Di Bronzo - YS - Full Album Live - 2007, Rome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyum87kdmGw |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 07:45
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Tarkus gets my vote. The title track is the master piece of ELP (and still perfect in XXIst century standards). Ys was excellent, but somehow slightly outdated now IMHO. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 07:57
| Ys is perhaps my favorite Italian Prog album ever (right up there with Darwin! or Zarathustra) but Tarkus is a beast and Side Two is just fine, people. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 08:49
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Pretty easy choice here: half a great album against a bonafide masterpiece. Yup Ys it is. Methinks most folks are voting for Tarkus just because they know it. Well get to know those Italians toute suite baby!!! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 08:55
| Tarkus in my opinion is a masterpiece, Ys is a very good album so.... EL&Palmer |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 09:12
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I resisted Tarkus for the longest time, having been indoctrinated with ELP's later catalog, but a few years ago I had that "Aha" moment, and I can see the general acclaim it has among prog enthusiasts. Ys has yet to hit me, but perhaps this thread will provide the impetus to give it another spin. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 10:40
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love Tarkus but I have to go with Ys ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 10:53
| The huge bronze balls of Ys crush the weaponised armadillo in my book. |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 11:12
YS it is!  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 11:14
| Ys without a doubt |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 28 2017 at 14:47
| Tarkus, though Ys is quite excellent. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 03 2017 at 11:27
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^ this. ------------- |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 13:16
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Ys. Tarkus is great, too, but there's a couple of tracks on the second side I really could've gone without. No filler on Ys, even the CD bonus track is excellent. -------------  
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Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 13:50
| Ys |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 13:57
one mans filler is another man's spice of life and variety. Oh YS is in my top 5 alltime albums... and is #1 when pissed and hitting the J.D. and wanting to kick ass and take names. However it is but one color... and while that makes it as great as is.. there simply is no album darker and heavier.. but it isn't a particularly diverse album. So YS for favorite...and is the single greatest keyboard rock album ever recorded... but overall Tarkus is the better overall album if one was to put my fanboy hat away and don the music critic hat. no vote.. |
Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 14:46
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 15:02
 Tarkus is not considered a foundational prog album without reason.. it was that good. Music at its best is not monochromatic.. but full of different colors and emotions. In that .. yeah.. Tarkus smokes YS. Seriously man... no one loves YS more than I do.. been singing it's praises since day 1 on this site it feels like... but it NOT music you just put on for enjoyment... it is one of those albums that is a mood enhancer reinforcer. For me... when pissed at the world... there is no better album for getting it out of the system than YS which beats me over the head for 40 and in my rapidly advancing old age and settling down from the hellion I used to be.. I've learned it is better to have a 2X4 beat across ones head than beat someone else over the head with one. Yeah.. it rules when you are 20... not so cool when pushing 50. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 15:42
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: April 12 2017 at 17:18
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I love YS, but Tarkus is freaking Tarkus, man There's no filler on YS? I'm not so sure about that. The last track goes on for way too long with that repetitive bass line and there's less variety in general Both are five star albums. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: April 13 2017 at 08:09
| TARKUS . |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 09:59
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Tarkus, my favorite ELP these days. I've only listened to Ys to see what the fuss... the worship's all about. It was ok, I must be missing something...
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 15 2017 at 16:01
| Yep Tarkus (side one) is ELP's masterpiece although the album is dreadfully lopsided quality wise. The rest of the album is almost made up of throwaway tracks although The Only Way and A Time and a Place just about avoid that. |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 11:26
| I love Tarkus but you can't hold side 2 of that up against anything on Ys. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 12:04
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I am in the minority as far as side 2 of Tarkus. Nowhere near as bad as many make it out to be...except for "Are you ready Eddy?" which makes me want to punch things. That being said, my copy of YS has the English translated piece that has a similar effect. Its really an apples/oranges pick. YS is to me not the pinnacle of RPI that many consider it. I like it, but enjoy Banco, Le Orme, Semiramis, Alphataurus, Area and 2 of the PFM albums more. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 14:58
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Many of my favourite albums divide opinion, Ys is no exception. For me personally it's an absolute masterpiece. Sorta like an old school version of The Mars Volta with an Italian Arthur Brown on vocals. Mad and wonderful music with awesome dynamics and even a section that reminds me of Krautrock (the wonderfully meandering coda on Epilogo where the drums and bass start to dance around each other like serpents). A brilliant album to clear out your sinuses to. Afterwards you feel like you just snorted an iceberg. Brainfreeze without feeling cold. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 02:08
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Tarkus. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |