Bands both on PA, MMA and JMA?
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Topic: Bands both on PA, MMA and JMA?
Posted By: Modrigue
Subject: Bands both on PA, MMA and JMA?
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 12:51
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Are there bands that are both on ProgArchives, MetalMusicArchives and JazzMusicArchives, ie. bands that match the progressive, metal and jazz tags? I was expecting Niacin, but they don't seem to be listed on MMA. Ulver made an electro-jazzy album, Perdition City, but it alone doesn't justify the band inclusion on JMA. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAslEmHBn8QP6d_eoanh0eW" rel="nofollow - My compositions |
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Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 13:02
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King Crimson and Buckethead... I don't know of any beyond that; certainly there are plenty of more contemporary groups one could make an argument for.
Edit: Mr Bungle as well apparently. I might keep looking and see what I find. Edit 2: Guapo, Naked City, John Zorn, Jimi Hendrix, Diablo Swing Orchestra
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 13:54
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Exivious and Plini are on all 3. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 17:02
the first one that popped into my head that perfectly fit all 3 sites... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
mechanicalflattery wrote:Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 17:10
| What about Planet X(and or Derek Sherinian) and Cynic? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 17:28
^ Hell yeah ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 17:32
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Yep, Planet X are in there but not Cynic, Motorpsycho, or Jagga Jazzist. I did find another one in all three and that is Trioscapes.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 21:15
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Panzerballett on all 3 ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 11 2017 at 23:34
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Liquid Tension Experiment Shining (Norway) |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 05:06
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i don't know if they are on all the three, but From.Uz should fit. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 08:04
| Animals As Leaders |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 09:33
| Interesting that they are all modern bands. Personally I think Mahavishnu should be on all three and maybe even Tribal Tech. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 09:45
| There seems to be a few that don't quite make it(they aren't in JMA but are in the other two)such as At War with Self, Aghora and Anomaly(apparently one of the first jazzy metal bands). Then there is Gordian Knot who are not in MMA but are in the other two. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 09:50
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Would of thought Zevious would have made it, surprised Guapo are on the jazz site. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 10:54
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^LTE too. Unless they got real jazzy after the debut, I don't recall much jazz related sound to them. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 11:03
Gordian Knot is actually on all 3. And I can see why Aghora wouldn't be on JMA ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 11:36
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Yes, I see Gordian Knot are on there. They didn't pop up when I first entered their name though. I had to look them up through "progressive metal" since I figured they would be listed in there. I don't know LTE that well but based on what I have heard I never thought they had much of a jazz or even fusion element. I guess maybe I need to hear more. Also, if Ozric Tentacles were more metallish they might be on all three. If there was a psychedelic archives they would be on there though. Still, they fall under more categories than most bands I can think of.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 11:46
make that 3 of use  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 11:47
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^The MMA search is not as cool and auto-filly as JMA so I didn't see GK at first either. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 12:32
| Would there be a band on MMA and JMA, but not on PA? Or does being a jazz-metal related band mean the band is progressive? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 12:39
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good question. I'll toss a virtual Harriet Tubman into the pot for the person who finds that band. My guess... I'll be keeping it. If one finds one... I'd likely be getting a refund for it would soon be added here. (an omission/oversight as those sites are probably much more active in additions than this site is today). Jazz + Metal is pretty much a surefire for progressive/prog here as I've seen things go. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 13:03
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Darn! I thought I had a JA/MA/not PA band in John Zorn's Painkiller but they're avant. Oh well, one more for the original topic. EDIT: Painkiller not Paunkiller ------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 13:05
you can be sure the Avant team never sleeps on the job   ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 14:24
Fishbone Cream |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 15:13
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FISHBONE! f**k yeah! ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 15:15
Good finds. Always thought "Sunless Saturday" by Fishbone was a great track, but never bought them as part of the "funk metal" movement. Thought they were lumped into that category. Thought Cream might have been on PA under proto or prog related and so I searched to see they have been debated many times prior. Rather amusing to read some of the seriousness that went on in the discussion. Maybe the "but JMA and MMA includes them" could be added to discussion. Of course, don't know if that would be in favor or against reason.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 15:19
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Cream are on a jazz site and a metal site? All of a sudden I'm thinking just about anyone can be anywhere. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 15:33
| Seven Impale and Native Construct might score a future hat trick. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 16:24
It used to be but they changed it. I hate it when things change for the worse. If you are going to fix it improve upon it or leave it alone.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 16:29
I never knew Cream were that jazzy. Also, I was thinking maybe the band living colour but I don't think they were ever fusion enough either. Ditto King's X who are probably on MMA and here but not JMA.
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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 17:10
It's because of a glitch, and M@x hasn't been around to fix the site yet.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 17:11
Really? Maybe Cream invented metal and we don't know it? ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 18:29
I thought the Beatles invented heavy metal (or maybe that's just a thing from another prog forum site). ;)
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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 19:27
They're under proto-metal, because they're an early hard rock band that influenced metal. (Perhaps most notably with the famous "Sunshine of Your Love"). |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 20:18
That I can kind of see that but they're essentially a Blues band, what are they doing on the Jazz site. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: March 12 2017 at 20:38
I'm with you there, I haven't heard anything by Cream that I would associate with Jazz.
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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 11:09
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 11:13
The search function should be identical to JMA on MMA but there is a temporary bug -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 11:15
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Profusion may fit all the three at least a bit ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 13:15
Maybe they're included because of their live discography? The two live cds I have are interspersed with jazzy runs most notably emanating from Ginger and Jack. Clapton remained true to his Albert King-on-exciting-drugs thang (which I absolutely adore). ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 16 2017 at 13:47
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SOT are on all three, I believe. -------------  
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 17 2017 at 12:45
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Utopianisti was recently added to JMA and MMA as well for the latest metal related album ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |