Which would you actually prefer to endure?
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Topic: Which would you actually prefer to endure?
Posted By: Hercules
Subject: Which would you actually prefer to endure?
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 05:54
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Anyone who has read The Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy knows that Vogon poetry is the worst in the universe; so much so that some have only survived a reading by gnawing off limbs so that the pain distracts them. I confess that, after watching Radiohead at Glastonbury, I was close to having to seek the services of an artificial leg manufacturer. I really enjoyed Muse last year - and they're not usually my favourite band - because they were sensational live. In the same way, I'm generally ambivalent about Radiohead, but thought they might shine live. They didn't. To say they bombed is an understatement. So pick your poison. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 07:02
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Everyone on my Facebook apart from a few treasured raved over Radiohead yesterday. What was once the mighty NME is raving over Radiohead. Me? I tried. I used to feel fine about being out of step with everyone. Now I real feel alienation! That's the trouble with Glarrstonberrry. It's a bubble that makes you feel like really really connected with people and that, but reality hits you on the travel home. Bet they don't even have decent drugs any more! That's the whole point of going to that sh*t hole! |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 07:35
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Anyone who profits from self pity is probably thankful for their purported torment. ------------- 
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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 07:41
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Glastonbury does not do prog - in the early 70s there was Hawkwind, Henry Cow, Gong, etc. and in 79 to the early 80s there was plenty of Gong alumni. Yes finally got invited in 2003 (ish) and I think Marillion were there at some stage in the 80s, but not much else. Back to the original point - I understand the affection for Radiohead but would rather watch Muse... |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 09:16
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I thought Radiohead were excellent last night. I thoroughly enjoyed the one shining light in a festival of utter dross. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 10:02
| Honestly, none of them. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 14:40
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Radiohead. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 15:29
We rarely disagree but, on this occasion, I'm going to dissent. I thought they were awful. The Foo Fighters are pretty good though, so it's not (quite) all dross. I didn't think much of Jeremy Corbyn's set, but it could have been worse: Theresa May wasn't there. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
lazland wrote:Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 15:36
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Hahaha thank you Hercules, watching them on TV as I'm typing because some friends wanted to see it, oh how some Vogon poetry would distract me from this pain... ------------- 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 17:43
------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 24 2017 at 17:44
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I didn't really see the logic in Radiohead's set list and I think that they end off their songs too abruptly live, they just do their stuff but haven't added much to them for their performance. So it wasn't all great, but I love their music and largely they did it well, so 3.5 stars from me. The Foo Fighters are good entertainment but ultimately just a too perfect everybody's darling rock band. Dave Grohl is a nice guy but he'll never be David Bowie, Kurt Cobain or even Thom Yorke, he's just too nicely catering for everybody and lacking edge (despite their outbursts of wildness; you see what he's learnt in Nirvana but as controlled and well dosed as in the Foo Fighters you know too well that everything's always safe). By the way I saw two songs of a band called BadBadNotGood for the first time in today's Glastonbury coverage, I loved them. Thundercat were good, too. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 02:30
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WTF is Vogon poetry ??? By the sound of it, I prefer Radiohead's Kid A. I don't even like Radiohead tbh, though Kid A is a spectacular album.... |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 03:47
^You've never read Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy? Surely a must for any prog fan.------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 04:04
I have just seen a couple of episodes of the rockumentary Sonic Highways and find it extremely puzzling to have all these gifted musicians talking about some of the seminal moments, people and places in rock history...and then you get The Foo Fighters take on it, which granted, was far more interesting than what I would have thought - anyway they recognise all the great music and talk about how great music is born - about throwing out the rule book and trying something a little different and bla bla bla. Fact of the matter is that by the end of the show they record a new song for their upcoming album, Sonic Highways, and every goddamn one of them sounds EXACTLY like the one preceding it  It truly boggles the mind how these musicians can get so incredibly inspired by their surroundings and then NOT try something new/different (the one exception I noted was the 10 second inclusion of a country western sounding guitar to an intro...from there on the song just went into every other Foo Fighter tune they've ever released.) After 3 of these in a row I was literally in tears! Bizarroworld. They remind me of Nickleback actually. With all that being said; I still find these guys very sympathetic. Dave Grohl should've stuck with the drums though. P.S. I am very jealous of you. I would've loved to see BadBadNotGood and Thundercat. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 06:25
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Foo Fighters. Yeah, they can play their instruments and can perform well. But musically their music just doesn't have any depth. There's a teenager born every minute of course. And if liking the band is now the dividing line between youth and old then hand me my Zimmer frame! At least I can listen to stuff that reveals its secrets upon multiple listens. With their music it's big riff,shouty bit, back to big riff, back to shouty bit. Thanks for introducing Jack Black to the world. No idea what I would have done with my life otherwise. "Nicest Man In Rock?". Well he's the most compromised for a start. But as you were, Radiohead Vs Vogon Poetry! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 06:38
I can read, say, a band / artist bio the size of a bible, but a regular novel does little for me. I even bought a large-ish collection of Moorcock paperbacks 20-odd years ago and I've read about 3 of them - only 18 to go !!! At this rate, I'll be dead by the sixth one..... |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 09:36
Radiohead, easily, although I have no problem with Vogon poetry. As poetry goes, it's certainly 'prog'  Radiohead's Glastonbury set was superb IMO. They really come alive when playing live. I do understand why they polarise opinion so much. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 14:34
Yep, very rare we do not see eye to eye on our music. I thought the idea of a rather old socialist appealing to a bunch of metropolitan yoofs to be slightly amusing. As I am typing this, I have appropriated the telly in my dining room (the better half is watching the choir thingy in the other room) to watch Saxon on Sky 1 at Wacken 2014. Good old Biff. Far better than bloody Sheeran at Glasters! ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 16:12
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Do know anything about the performance itself, but that set list sounds good to me. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 16:35
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 16:58
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Haven't seen the performance, it will appear in the US sometime over the summer. Love Radiohead, I've seen them live and watched previous live performances. Would love to see them again. I'd also probably go to a Vogon poetry recital just for the experience. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 25 2017 at 17:29
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Another band from yesterday's line up I hadn't known before that I saw today in the morning was Temples. Apparently they're on progarchives but there's only a single review yet. Quite young but unashamedly retro, this music could have worked well in 1971. Not overly complex but very charming with some nice twists in their melodies and a good intuition for live dynamic. Some prog fans may like them. Edit: Just checked Guldbamsen's review of the 2011 Temples album, and despite them being classified as psych, what my ears heard was actually quite different from what he wrote in his review. Now the Temples on progarchives are from Finland and Wikipedia says "Temples are an English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music" rel="nofollow - rock band formed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettering" rel="nofollow - Kettering in 2012 by singer and guitarist James Bagshaw and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_guitar" rel="nofollow - bassist Tom Walmsley." I think the guys at Glasto were the latter. They're classified as psychedelia, too. Very confusing. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 26 2017 at 06:47
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Vogon poetry used as lyrics in prog rock would be an interesting endeavor. Come to think of it, Hitchhiker would be make an ideal prog rock opera.
Avoiding the "cheesiness" factor might be a difficult one. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 26 2017 at 07:09
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I am a big Temples fan but I prefer the British variety. Their debut Sun Structures is a wonderful slice of psychedelic pop/rock a la Beatles anno 1970. Their most recent Volcano though seems to have been infected by the 80s synth bug like every other psych rock outfit out there atm. I prefer Pond's two most recent releases if we're going down that road. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 26 2017 at 08:00
Let me tell you something, my nine year old daughter is fully into the top 40 pop pablum stage so when we are driving anywhere I get to listen to the likes of Ed Sheeran, Sia, Beiber, and still more horrific nonsense. Oh gee, and now there's a new Lorde record out. I'm sure program directors all over the country are just peeing themselves in anticipation of being able to flood the airwaves of their stations with that puke. I've never heard either of those pieces you posted but without even one single listen, I would pick both of them and gleefully listen anywhere from 80 to 5,376 times in place of the garbage my daughter likes. Anything would be better than driving with my knee on the steering wheel because my fingers are in my ears. I remember when Bugs Bunny asked Elmer Fudd if he wanted to shoot him now or wait till he got home. I really don't care which, just shoot me.  ------------- We all live in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 26 2017 at 08:02
Actually, three or so
years ago, I had her liking some songs from Rush off of Permanent
Waves and Moving Pictures. I knew it wouldn't last but I enjoyed it while it
did.  ------------- We all live in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: June 26 2017 at 08:15
| I don't know what Vogon poetry is but it can't be worse than Radiohead. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 26 2017 at 09:44
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poetry ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |