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1978: Camel Breathless vs. Magma Attahk

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Topic: 1978: Camel Breathless vs. Magma Attahk
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 1978: Camel Breathless vs. Magma Attahk
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 15:56
It's the attahk of the camel....

A sample from each album, albeit some will not like my choices.   Feel free to link to/ embed another of your choosing if you feel like it.





So which album leaves you more breathless.



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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 17:24
MAGMA quite easily, I know it's not exactly everyone's fav MAGMA album but for me it blows Breathless out of the desert. Actually that MAGMA album is currently in my top 10 for 1978. Some real gems for that year.

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 18:56
Never heard Attaqqke.

Bought that Camel 3 or 4 years ago and still haven't listened to it.

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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 19:19
Unfamiliar with Attahk, but there's only one track off of Breathless that I like (Echoes), so I doubt Camel will win the day with me once I get around to listening to both. 

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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 19:35
Camel

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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 19:42
Both samples were good but I don't know nearly enough yet about this 'Magma' to do an educated vote. Camel, I LOVE their Mirage album! It's very good all the way through and then completely kicks your ass at the end there with Lady Fantasy. The Snow Goose and Moonmadness are also quite good, but imo not as good as Mirage. 

So couldn't vote on this one. 


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 20:31
Alright you made me do it. Gotta love Richard Sinclair though..


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 22:39
Richard Sinclair is great, I love Caravan and Hatfield and the North, but this Camel album is not one of the best, imo, to feature him by quite a long way. He makes it enjoyable, though. I don't think I'd like that song I posted in this topic if it were instead of him, say, pretty much any death metal growler. Actually, that might be cool. Probably some good death metal meets disco out there, maybe.... Perhaps, perhaps not.

I love Attahk. It's one of my favourite Magma albums, and it still sounds fresh to my ears these days. Most people fawn all over MDK, but I like the jazziness of the first two and the fun of Attahk. I like every Magma studio album, even the much reviled Merci, and I love lots of their live albums.
It's not the easiest band for most to get into.... I think a lot of people start in the wrong place, and what place to start depends on what someone is into. For me it was "Iss Lansei Doia" off the second album, but then I liked brassy jazz and very quirky music. It filled with joy.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 02:18
They both have their charms.
I love Echoes, I love Maahnt (or what ever the 1st song on side 2 is....)
Both are equal for me, a bit patchy overall, but enjoyable 1978 albums.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 03:31
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

MAGMA quite easily, I know it's not exactly everyone's fav MAGMA album but for me it blows Breathless out of the desert. Actually that MAGMA album is currently in my top 10 for 1978. Some real gems for that year.

This.


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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 04:52
Can't vote - neither of them made a "breathless" impression on me.


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 06:03
I like Camel more than Magma, but Breathless is probably their weakest album, so in this case, Magma would get my vote, for the album, not fort he band.


Posted By: noni
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 07:53
Andy Latimer admitted he probably made 2 of his worst albums as the band were going through a tough time. With Pete Bardens already gone it only left Andy Ward and andy Latimer.   With his current contract, asking for albums to be produced, he was obliged to release these albums with Andy Ward having  personal issues.  Single Factor and Breathless were not your typical Camel sound and resulted more in that mainstream stye. However, one track that did stand out was " Sasquatch" from the Single Factor album.  Still enjoyed today by fans..Smile  Many years later he brought out 'Stationary Traveller' which blew the pants of those other 2 albums and more in line with Camel.

Breathless however, is still an album I enjoy,  despite not being their greatest album, it's still quite listenable ...  With no track that's hard to reach.   Not too familiar with Magma though,  so cannot compare from their other stuff.  


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 08:44
This is a tough one, I like them both. Also "support the underdog" applies to them both, as Magma is the underdog against Camel but Breathless is an underdog Camel album. I voted for Breathless because it made me smile (although "You Make Me Smile" is one of its lower songs), because of Richard Sinclair, because of Echoes, because of the guitar solo in Summer Lightning, and because I like it if bands deviate from their usual paths for a while. It may not be very consistent but it's full of ideas.


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 10:09
Anything Magma over anything Camel every day. Except perhaps if it was Merci vs Mirage.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 10:26
Easily Magma. 

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 10:41

Camel!



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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 10:45
Attahk!!!!!

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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 11:44
Camel easily.Love that album.
Magma gives me a headache except Kobah from the first live album.


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Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 12:33
Camel is my favourite band, I love all their albums, ant Breathless imho not the worst of them. Magama is a good band but not so strong in the melodies. imho


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 13:08
Glad to see this one is quite close, and thanks for all the replies.

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Anything Magma over anything Camel every day. Except perhaps if it was Merci vs Mirage.


Mirage is a great album, and if I put it up against Merci I don't think many Magma fans would vote for the Magma. I like Merci, at least side two, but not as much as Mirage. I love the last two tracks on Merci. "Eliphas Levi" iss de hundin (anyone here who does not know what that means does not really know Magma).   

While I'm sure that Mirage would decimate Merci, I think that if I were to do a poll of Magma's most popular album vs. Camel's least popular, Camel would hold its own in terms of votes (might even win) A lot of people do vote for band rather than the particular album in such polls, and there are many people who just don't like Magma ... period, or have already decided that they don't like Magma period despite lack of knowledge and wouldn't be willing to try more Magma. SO irregardless of which Magma album or track one presents, some people would not want to give it the time of day.

I'm kind of tempted to do MDK vs. The Single Factor as a part of a thought experiment, but I won't. I used to do lots of thought experiment type polls to test certain behavioral hypotheses, but this poll is not one of them.

By the way, I was originally going to post the following two tracks for people to become a little acquainted with both albums -- both albums are available in full on youtube, but I don't like to post full albums here. Actually, that's dishonest, I do like to embed full albums here, but it is ethically suspect, and as a collab I should make some effort to be a good example and not get the site in trouble. Not that it needs my help to get in trouble...)





And regarding an earlier comment, I love "Maahnt". It may be my most listened to track off Attahk.   My kids were always asking for me to play it because they loved the belches (in my house we call it the burping song). I considered that as my sample too, as well as the first track, but I thought Maahnt might be a bit too much for some.

I don't want to slow down webpage loading with too many vids, but for those looking for a belchingly good time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_LCZGL2JE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_LCZGL2JE


Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 14:02
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Glad to see this one is quite close, and thanks for all the replies.

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Anything Magma over anything Camel every day. Except perhaps if it was Merci vs Mirage.


Mirage is a great album, and if I put it up against Merci I don't think many Magma fans would vote for the Magma. I like Merci, at least side two, but not as much as Mirage. I love the last two tracks on Merci. "Eliphas Levi" iss de hundin (anyone here who does not know what that means does not really know Magma).   

While I'm sure that Mirage would decimate Merci, I think that if I were to do a poll of Magma's most popular album vs. Camel's least popular, Camel would hold its own in terms of votes (might even win) A lot of people do vote for band rather than the particular album in such polls, and there are many people who just don't like Magma ... period, or have already decided that they don't like Magma period despite lack of knowledge and wouldn't be willing to try more Magma. SO irregardless of which Magma album or track one presents, some people would not want to give it the time of day.

I'm kind of tempted to do MDK vs. The Single Factor as a part of a thought experiment, but I won't. I used to do lots of thought experiment type polls to test certain behavioral hypotheses, but this poll is not one of them.

By the way, I was originally going to post the following two tracks for people to become a little acquainted with both albums -- both albums are available in full on youtube, but I don't like to post full albums here. Actually, that's dishonest, I do like to embed full albums here, but it is ethically suspect, and as a collab I should make some effort to be a good example and not get the site in trouble. Not that it needs my help to get in trouble...)





And regarding an earlier comment, I love "Maahnt". It may be my most listened to track off Attahk.   My kids were always asking for me to play it because they loved the belches (in my house we call it the burping song). I considered that as my sample too, as well as the first track, but I thought Maahnt might be a bit too much for some.

I don't want to slow down webpage loading with too many vids, but for those looking for a belchingly good time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_LCZGL2JE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_LCZGL2JE

For more good clean family entertainment.
Try Caravan's 'Wendy wants another 6inch mole',.There's a farting song for you.LOL


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Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 16:24
Breathless and Rain Dances is my favorite era of Camel (probably because of Richard Sinclair).  Camel gets my vote! 

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 17:27
Camel. I am not a Magma fan.

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 17:33
Breathless was a pretty good album with, as someone said earlier, a lot of fresh ideas, whether you liked them or not.  Not a Magma fan at all


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:03
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Richard Sinclair is great, I love Caravan and Hatfield and the North, but this Camel album is not one of the best, imo, to feature him by quite a long way. He makes it enjoyable, though. I don't think I'd like that song I posted in this topic if it were instead of him, say, pretty much any death metal growler. Actually, that might be cool. Probably some good death metal meets disco out there, maybe.... Perhaps, perhaps not.

I love Attahk. It's one of my favourite Magma albums, and it still sounds fresh to my ears these days. Most people fawn all over MDK, but I like the jazziness of the first two and the fun of Attahk. I like every Magma studio album, even the much reviled Merci, and I love lots of their live albums.
It's not the easiest band for most to get into.... I think a lot of people start in the wrong place, and what place to start depends on what someone is into. For me it was "Iss Lansei Doia" off the second album, but then I liked brassy jazz and very quirky music. It filled with joy.

Hmm, thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to try them and see if I can get into it. I did listen to some VdGG already. I listened to 'The least we can do..' and it was pleasant but nothing really grabbed me. But I did like the second song on 'Pawn Hearts' - the organ and whatever that distortion is was kind of kick ass. So Idk, I think I might be able to get into it..


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:06
Originally posted by cemego cemego wrote:

Breathless and Rain Dances is my favorite era of Camel (probably because of Richard Sinclair).  Camel gets my vote! 

Right on! My main man R. Sinclair.. Now I'm really tempted to vote for Camel here(just on account of him). But no, I.. I shouldn't.. not without listening to some more Magma first. Wouldn't be right. 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:21
Kenneth and Wanorak, I'm hardly surprised that neither of you are Magma fans as the music is quite unconventional, and both of your tastes, which have a lot of similarities, tend to run to the melodic and more mainstream side (I wonder if thats the same for movies and TV?). Zeuhl probably runs almost as cold in you blood as Neo-Prog runs in mine -- I'm generally not into Symph either. I do love folk, but mostly acid folk (not so into stuff like Strawbs and Mostly Autumn is for me, well, well let's just say that I'm not a fan). Vive la difference. I don't think Magma appeals to many people whose tastes veer towards AOR/ melodic rock, poppy acts, and mainstream Symphonic Prog. Of course we share the love of some music too. It's very quirky music, and appeals mostly to the RIO/Avant and more experimental music crowd, although quite a few symph fans like MDK and K.A. I much prefer Kobaia as I am into jazz.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:34
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Richard Sinclair is great, I love Caravan and Hatfield and the North, but this Camel album is not one of the best, imo, to feature him by quite a long way. He makes it enjoyable, though. I don't think I'd like that song I posted in this topic if it were instead of him, say, pretty much any death metal growler. Actually, that might be cool. Probably some good death metal meets disco out there, maybe.... Perhaps, perhaps not.

I love Attahk. It's one of my favourite Magma albums, and it still sounds fresh to my ears these days. Most people fawn all over MDK, but I like the jazziness of the first two and the fun of Attahk. I like every Magma studio album, even the much reviled Merci, and I love lots of their live albums.
It's not the easiest band for most to get into.... I think a lot of people start in the wrong place, and what place to start depends on what someone is into. For me it was "Iss Lansei Doia" off the second album, but then I liked brassy jazz and very quirky music. It filled with joy.


Hmm, thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to try them and see if I can get into it. I did listen to some VdGG already. I listened to 'The least we can do..' and it was pleasant but nothing really grabbed me. But I did like the second song on 'Pawn Hearts' - the organ and whatever that distortion is was kind of kick ass. So Idk, I think I might be able to get into it..


Well the second song on Pawn Hearts is the one that opened up VdGG for me. The other was House With No Door, as I found it beautiful, but my tastes are not so rooted in rock as most people here. I was a classical music lover first, then later jazz.... Not that that means anything, I know others who were the same with classical music, but their favourite Prog music is Prog Metal (I can't take metal in more than small doses other than some classic heavy metal). My original tendency was to favour more pastoral Prog, but as I continued looking into stuff here, I really got into the more experimental and dissonant music.   Nowadays I like a balance of pretty, and pretty ugly music often. ;) When it comes to music it's always best to follow our own heart and your path, I think, which isn't to say that recommendations can't be useful, but they tend to be most useful when they align with your current tastes. Umm, why I am I going pseudo-philosophical here? Lack of sleep probably. The less I sleep the more I say.


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 03 2017 at 18:46
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Well the second song on Pawn Hearts is the one that opened up VdGG for me. The other was House With No Door, as I found it beautiful, but my tastes are not so rooted in rock as most people here. I was a classical music lover first, then later jazz.... Not that that means anything, I know others who were the same with classical music, but their favourite Prog music is Prog Metal (I can't take metal in more than small doses other than some classic heavy metal). My original tendency was to favour more pastoral Prog, but as I continued looking into stuff here, I really got into the more experimental and dissonant music.   Nowadays I like a balance of pretty, and pretty ugly music often. ;) When it comes to music it's always best to follow our own heart and your path, I think, which isn't to say that recommendations can't be useful, but they tend to be most useful when they align with your current tastes. Umm, why I am I going pseudo-philosophical here? Lack of sleep probably. The less I sleep the more I say.

Get some sleep bud, lack of sleep's not good for anything. Thanks again for the suggestions. I'll check out that House With No Door deal and see if I can get into it. 


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: August 04 2017 at 01:02
Camel - Breathless for sure


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 04 2017 at 02:07
Originally posted by cemego cemego wrote:

Breathless and Rain Dances is my favorite era of Camel (probably because of Richard Sinclair).  Camel gets my vote! 
For me, Camel has never created a dud from the marvellous debut, through to Moonmadness. Then, Rain Dances and Breathless featured one of my all-time favourite bassists in Rich S. Two pretty good albums happened.
Magma are (generally) impeccable. Merci is still the weakest album they've ever done (3 stars - it does have Eliphas Levi ). Attahk injected some gospel stylings and Vander really exploited his, rather, shall we say, uncompromising style of singing here. It's a great album, though one of the most difficult for me to 'connect' with.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 04 2017 at 10:22
Camel for me.....always liked their albums. The Magma sounds like an outtake from a Supersister album with crazy vocals.

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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: August 05 2017 at 03:32
I really like Attahk.  Behind MDK and KA. and about equal with Kohntarkosz.

Breathless (and Rain Dances as well) are second tier Camel albums


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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: August 05 2017 at 07:46
Magma - Attakh. Really disappointed with Breathless...


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 05 2017 at 11:06
I'm a bit surprised how many people like Magma here......I have yet to hear an album by them that I think rings my bell.
All you Magma fans.....what am I missing...? Which is the album by them that I should be listening to?


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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 02:20
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I'm a bit surprised how many people like Magma here......I have yet to hear an album by them that I think rings my bell.
All you Magma fans.....what am I missing...? Which is the album by them that I should be listening to?


The usual recommendation is the Live album.

Fwiw, I prefer Magma singing in Kobaian to English. Unlike opera...


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 03:13
^They never connected with me until I saw them live. Then I finally got it.

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Posted By: scruffydragon
Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 03:19
Camel's music always puts me in a good state of mind and makes me feel happy. Breathless is not their best album but it's still very refreshing and enjoyable to listen to. Magma I do have some of their albums but I find it simply does not connect with me very well. Listened to an album the other day and felt on edge by the time it had finished. 


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 05:12
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I'm a bit surprised how many people like Magma here......I have yet to hear an album by them that I think rings my bell.
All you Magma fans.....what am I missing...? Which is the album by them that I should be listening to?
Given your liking of 72-74 King Crimson, I'd suggest Kohntarkosz would be worth a couple of spins.

Having said that, lots of people just don't dig Magma and never will. Nothing wrong with that.

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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 13:43
Yeah I tried to listen to this "MDK" album that people fawn all over, and I.. *quickly looks around to make sure none of the 'higher ups' are listening* shhh didn't like it shhh. But I will keep trying.. this is one obstacle that I'm determined to overcome one way the other. 

I was told a while back by this mysterious, shadowy figure on here(who I've never seen before or since) that the next rung after Magma will be "Kid A" by Radiohead! But one thing at a time though. Baby steps..  


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 18:03
Comparing Camel to Magma is like comparing Edison to Tesla.  Compared to Tesla, Edison was still in grade school.

 

I do appreciate Camel, but they’re just not in the same league as Magma.



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Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 18:13
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 06 2017 at 19:07
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Comparing Camel to Magma is like comparing Edison to Tesla.  Compared to Tesla, Edison was still in grade school.

 

I do appreciate Camel, but they’re just not in the same league as Magma.


Oh now that's what I'm talking about. That was darn good, especially at 5:19 when the lead guitar started to really kick in there with the rest of them. Right on. 


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: August 07 2017 at 07:23
The lead guitar player seems to be in his own world; as are the rest of them.  It’s plainly visible at the end of his guitar solo which starts around 5:00 and ends around 5:55.  Check out the expression on his face, he’s not just into it, he’s in it!




Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 07 2017 at 17:31
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

The lead guitar player seems to be in his own world; as are the rest of them.  It’s plainly visible at the end of his guitar solo which starts around 5:00 and ends around 5:55.  Check out the expression on his face, he’s not just into it, he’s in it!



Oh mercy, that whole thing was good! The part just before the guitar solo, I was feelin that big time.. and then the part after the solo with the women singing(sounded a lot like the stuff I heard on that MDK album). And you're right the guy literally looks like he's in some kind of trace or something during that solo lol. 

Anyway I'm going to have give these guys another shot.. I'm liking the feel and sound of what you're posting from them a lot! 


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 07 2017 at 17:46
I was jamming out big time to this tune just now..



These guys are suddenly starting to really click for me. 



Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: August 07 2017 at 20:26

That’s only a part of a larger movement called MDK.  I think Magma is just one of those bands that really needs to be seen for full appreciation.  They have about 10 or so videos out of which some are really hard to get.  I have all of them of which I got most from here:

http://www.seventhrecords.com/en/buy/cat-video-dvd-38.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.seventhrecords.com/en/buy/cat-video-dvd-38.html

an excellent one to start with is this one; it includes Nebehr Gudahtt

http://www.seventhrecords.com/en/video-dvd-38/dvd-magma-trilogie-theusz-hamtaak-47.html" rel="nofollow - DVD -MAGMA : Trilogie THEUSZ HAMTAAK

 

This is the entire MDK movement off the DVD.  The choral arrangements that start at 18:00 always send shivers up my spine.

Note: this is not the entire DVD, it’s only 1/3 of it.  The other 2/3’s are just as good.

Enjoy..






Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: August 07 2017 at 20:28


part 2..  this concludes MDK and only 1/3 of the entire DVD, a must have.


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 08 2017 at 20:14
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

That’s only a part of a larger movement called MDK.  I think Magma is just one of those bands that really needs to be seen for full appreciation.  They have about 10 or so videos out of which some are really hard to get.  I have all of them of which I got most from here:

http://www.seventhrecords.com/en/buy/cat-video-dvd-38.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.seventhrecords.com/en/buy/cat-video-dvd-38.html

an excellent one to start with is this one; it includes Nebehr Gudahtt

http://www.seventhrecords.com/en/video-dvd-38/dvd-magma-trilogie-theusz-hamtaak-47.html" rel="nofollow - DVD -MAGMA : Trilogie THEUSZ HAMTAAK

 

This is the entire MDK movement off the DVD.  The choral arrangements that start at 18:00 always send shivers up my spine.

Note: this is not the entire DVD, it’s only 1/3 of it.  The other 2/3’s are just as good.

Enjoy..





Wow, great stuff! Thank you. I liked Part 2 a little better even though it had stuff that we already saw. But Part 1 was really good as well and I liked the singing of that one brunette women a lot(her voice is beautiful). I'm starting to get into these guys big time now. I was even listening to the Merci album on youtube and digging that. So definitely thank you again for literally getting me to like(love) these guys. In the future if anyone asks who really turned me on to Magma, I will have to tell them.. "Well it was this person on the internet actually called 'CosmicVibration.'"


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: August 09 2017 at 19:47
I’m glad you’re enjoying it.. I’ll leave you with one more.  I wanted the last part which is my favorite, K.A. 3, but could not find it.  This one is off their fabulous DVD called Epok IV.

Yea, my first choice for a user name on this site was soundchaser but that was taken.






Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: August 10 2017 at 01:47
This is one of those polls that should not be - a head to head comparison between two very different, yet excellent, bands.  Both albums are uneven however but I am not going to vote either way...


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: August 10 2017 at 19:06
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

I’m glad you’re enjoying it.. I’ll leave you with one more.  I wanted the last part which is my favorite, K.A. 3, but could not find it.  This one is off their fabulous DVD called Epok IV.

Yea, my first choice for a user name on this site was soundchaser but that was taken.





Thanks again. Was getting slightly hypnotized by that, as seems to happen to me with this band. I should start using that MDK album for my meditation. 


Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: August 12 2017 at 19:37
Attahk easily, one of my favorites albums from 1978.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 15 2017 at 15:22
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

This is one of those polls that should not be - a head to head comparison between two very different, yet excellent, bands.  Both albums are uneven however but I am not going to vote either way...


I like such polls of contrast as it can bring different audiences together (I expect that there are a considerable number of mutual fans of both bands in this case), and people may be exposed to things that may be out of their usual comfort zones. However, as I always like to say, to each his or her own (be it tastes, or perspective...).


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: August 19 2017 at 16:21
Ive loved Camel since I was about 14 (when I first head Mirage)and have a soft spot for(most) of the breathless lp- I remember a small article at the time in one of the UK mainstream newspapers (could have been the daily Express) with the title 'Ever heard the one about the Camel that ate the Caravan?' saying 'UK's two top 'soft rock' (yuch!!) bands have merged.. but basically Richard Sinclair had persuaded Jan Schellas to provide keyboards for the coming tour as Peter Bardens had left..

Magma.. I have a confession to make. I knew about Magma from the late 70's but somehow, unconsciously, I managed to avoid hearing them until early 2000's when I acquired an original vinyl copy of MDK. It was COMPLETELY different from what I expected and I can only say I had an 'out of body' experience listening to it. And it happens every time I hear it. It energises me in way I cant explain. When I saw them live I was nearly in tears. Not every Magma lp does this; Kohntarkosz for example leaves me fairly cold. The first double is fantastic but is nearer Early Crimson/ VDGG with a more Jazz element. Attahk and, particularly, Udu Wudu are mesmeric though Attahk has weaker moments. Apart from the year in which they were recorded and that they both have weaker elements, these lps are worlds apart but worlds I appreciate equally.

I am starting to notice that compared with many who post on these forums I have a very very wide spectrum of taste and there is actually very little across the progressive spectrum that I cant and don't listen to.. maybe i'm too easily pleased or not discerning enough.. whatever.. Music is such huge and important part of my life and soul that I always try and see the positives in whatever 'sub-genre' it is.


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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: August 19 2017 at 16:27
'' Apart from the year in which they were recorded and that they both have weaker elements, these lps are worlds apart but worlds I appreciate equally.''

The above quote (by myself) was in relation to 'Breathless' and 'Attahk' not Udu Wudu and Attahk.. sorry I got a bit carried away (embarrassed face- b****y emoticon thing doesnt work again!)


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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: August 19 2017 at 17:11
Camel by a Zillion years

I can´t stand Magma, i hate the operatic voices, ruined everything!!



Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: August 20 2017 at 11:38
Attahk of course (even if I like Camel)!

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 22 2017 at 13:55
Attahk but both are quite treasured and gets a few yearly spins

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 24 2017 at 06:11
The Magma album is slightly more 'interesting' but that Camel album is very weak IMO; a real yawn fest. Not a fan of either.

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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: August 24 2017 at 07:46
I absolutely adore Breathless.
I love it's pop-tendencies, the humor, the different styles, the saxophone, the two semi-epics, and the opening song is one of the best songs Camel have ever recorded <3


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 28 2018 at 18:21
Camel

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 28 2018 at 22:13
Attahk!


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 28 2018 at 23:50
Camel

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 29 2018 at 00:05
Beathless





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