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Topic: Which King Crimson track...
Posted By: condor
Subject: Which King Crimson track...
Date Posted: August 25 2017 at 13:47
are you waiting to hear by the octet version??

Can't wait to here Fracture; no idea how they're going to make it work.

Check out the setlists here:  https://tonylevin.com/road-diaries/king-crimson-2017-tour-pt1/" rel="nofollow - https://tonylevin.com/road-diaries/king-crimson-2017-tour-pt1/



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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: August 25 2017 at 13:54
Either Fracture or Lizard - I've had a chance to hear most of the others. For those unaware, King Crimson has been giving away free downloads of random live tracks as they tour. Just check out the news page of their website (https://www.dgmlive.com/news); each song is in its own post, so you'll have to sort through them, but there is quite a few from both the septet and octet. Not sure how long these will remain free, though.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 25 2017 at 14:28
I'd love for them to the do the Larks' Tongues suite complete. 

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Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: August 25 2017 at 14:36
on the spot complete improvisations, preferably for at least 20-30 mins at a time!!

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 25 2017 at 21:04
Starless was just something else.


Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: August 25 2017 at 21:52
From the show I saw I thought "Red" stood out the most. The drumming was so intricate with the 3 drummers playing synchronized interlocking parts. 
"Discipline" would be quite something, really wondering what would come out of that one. Already loaded enough with 4 guys. 
I don't think they'll still be touring after this Fall though unfortunately. Hoping for a new studio release as the octet.

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

on the spot complete improvisations, preferably for at least 20-30 mins at a time!!
+1


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 25 2017 at 21:54
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Either Fracture or Lizard - I've had a chance to hear most of the others. For those unaware, King Crimson has been giving away free downloads of random live tracks as they tour. Just check out the news page of their website (https://www.dgmlive.com/news); each song is in its own post, so you'll have to sort through them, but there is quite a few from both the septet and octet. Not sure how long these will remain free, though.

Great!  I saw "Lizard" performed in Chicago, it was *amazing!!*   This was our setlist: 

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/2017/chicago-theatre-chicago-il-3e4d54f.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/2017/chicago-theatre-chicago-il-3e4d54f.html

Darn it, I would have LOVED to have witnessed "Fracture" by this band!! 




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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 26 2017 at 08:17
Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

From the show I saw I thought "Red" stood out the most. The drumming was so intricate with the 3 drummers playing synchronized interlocking parts. 
That's weird. When I saw them Red was the biggest disappointment out of all the material I was looking forward to hear. (I'll admit I'm indifferent to most of the material released post 1974 and none of the tunes that were less than 40+ years old thrilled me) Those loudly banging drums in front of the rest of the music ruined the whole delightfully gloomy atmosphere of that tune for me. It was still a fantastic concert but I wish they had brought along atleast one drummer less on tour. Fracture*, 21st Century, Larks and surprisingly The Letters were highlights for me.

*glad I saw them while it was still on their setlist


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 26 2017 at 08:43
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

I'd love for them to the do the Larks' Tongues suite complete. 
This! Clap

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 26 2017 at 10:18
Lizard would be my first choice. A Sailor's Tale would also be nice. 


Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: August 27 2017 at 13:20
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Either Fracture or Lizard - I've had a chance to hear most of the others. For those unaware, King Crimson has been giving away free downloads of random live tracks as they tour. Just check out the news page of their website (https://www.dgmlive.com/news); each song is in its own post, so you'll have to sort through them, but there is quite a few from both the septet and octet. Not sure how long these will remain free, though.


Great!  I saw "Lizard" performed in Chicago, it was *amazing!!*   This was our setlist: 

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/2017/chicago-theatre-chicago-il-3e4d54f.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/2017/chicago-theatre-chicago-il-3e4d54f.html

Darn it, I would have LOVED to have witnessed "Fracture" by this band!! 




Oh my god, they played Islands??

I wish tickets weren't so expensive, but I have to see them live. It would be my first Crimson show.


Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: August 27 2017 at 13:57
Islands was one of the highlights of the show in Toronto in July.  Fripp and Belew have apparently locked horns over material that Belew had a part in. Don't know the details but apparently Belew is fuming. 


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 27 2017 at 20:21
I wouldn't have minded much if they were not playing any of the Belew era stuff at the show I saw... most of the songs I didn't care so much about were from that era... except for Level 5, that one was one of the highlights and would have hated to miss it. But playing more 70's stuff instead of post 70's would have been perfect for me.


Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: August 28 2017 at 04:59
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

I'd love for them to the do the Larks' Tongues suite complete. 
This! Clap
 
Same Clap


Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: August 28 2017 at 16:10
Starless, The Letter, love to hear Cirkus. Islands.

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 28 2017 at 20:22
Originally posted by Kepler62 Kepler62 wrote:

Islands was one of the highlights of the show in Toronto in July.  Fripp and Belew have apparently locked horns over material that Belew had a part in. Don't know the details but apparently Belew is fuming. 

This post by RF contains some info on the spat between RF and AB: 

https://www.dgmlive.com/diaries/Robert%20Fripp/RF_diary_2017_August_22" rel="nofollow - https://www.dgmlive.com/diaries/Robert%20Fripp/RF_diary_2017_August_22


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 28 2017 at 21:12
Originally posted by maryes maryes wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:


I'd love for them to the do the Larks' Tongues suite complete. 
This! Clap

 
Same Clap



Yeah, they should really do that at some point. Yet, I wonder if "Talking Drum" should be included as a sort of intro to part 2, as well as the "Coda: I have a Dream" after part 4. Also, I would like it to include "Level 5", since I read that one was suposed to be Larks part 5.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 29 2017 at 10:39
Industry


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 29 2017 at 14:07
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by maryes maryes wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:


I'd love for them to the do the Larks' Tongues suite complete. 
This!

 
Same 



Yeah, they should really do that at some point. Yet, I wonder if "Talking Drum" should be included as a sort of intro to part 2, as well as the "Coda: I have a Dream" after part 4. Also, I would like it to include "Level 5", since I read that one was suposed to be Larks part 5.

I would say no to The Talking Drum...I feel like the transition between parts I and II would be smooth enough as is (and while played together frequently TTD isn't really part of the suite). If they ever did this, I would say they would include Coda: I HAve A Dream (with or without vocals) as I don't think they've played Part IV live without it (admittedly there have only been a few versions officially released over the years so it's a small sample size). I'd have no problems with Level 5 tacked on at the end (nor would I have if they leave it out) but since they are playing it (fantastically) they might as well!


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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 29 2017 at 14:07
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Industry

I think this is a good idea too. 


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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 29 2017 at 20:43
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by maryes maryes wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:


I'd love for them to the do the Larks' Tongues suite complete. 
This!

 
Same 



Yeah, they should really do that at some point. Yet, I wonder if "Talking Drum" should be included as a sort of intro to part 2, as well as the "Coda: I have a Dream" after part 4. Also, I would like it to include "Level 5", since I read that one was suposed to be Larks part 5.


I would say no to The Talking Drum...I feel like the transition between parts I and II would be smooth enough as is (and while played together frequently TTD isn't really part of the suite). If they ever did this, I would say they would include Coda: I HAve A Dream (with or without vocals) as I don't think they've played Part IV live without it (admittedly there have only been a few versions officially released over the years so it's a small sample size). I'd have no problems with Level 5 tacked on at the end (nor would I have if they leave it out) but since they are playing it (fantastically) they might as well!


Besides, I can barely imagine Larks part 4 without the CODA... it would be rather underwhelming. I think that's the best part of the song, if it can even be considered so... given the flow of the song and the CODA, in my mind they are so.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 01 2017 at 17:32
^ My favorite is either part two or part three (depends on the day) but I agree that without the coda it would feel weird/wrong. 

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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 01 2017 at 21:36
My favourite is definitley part 2, the studio version (even though the live versions are heavier and in a way stronger, the studio version still has the small details that are lost live... specially the interplay between Bruford and Muir, and the violin torturing of Cross). I have only heard part 3 on a live version, and it didn't really do much for me. I used to find part 1 too loose in the middle, but the new version they have been playing live just fixed that song for me.


Posted By: Crimsonsnowdog
Date Posted: September 15 2017 at 14:58
I would really like to see if they play Great Deceiver or Lament on the upcoming fall US tour.


Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 21:04
With Crimso, less seems like more. I've listened to them through most of my life, in all their incarnations, but the four-man versions have been stronger and more interesting than the six or more overkill attack. Think of the classics: Fripp/Lake/McDonald/Giles, or Fripp/Wetton/Bruford/Cross, or Fripp/Belew/Levin/Bruford. When it's more than four, things get buried in the mix. The complexity of the standard KC song also makes a case for avoiding going overboard.

Crimso's spirit is whispering "Dig Me, Don't Bury Me", but you can't hear it in over the rumble of amplified instruments.


Posted By: ProfPanglos
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 21:58
I saw the 2014 7-piece show, and the 2017 8-piece show (both here in Seattle).  I also caught the Thrak tour when I lived in Germany.

I thought the 2014 show was a little better, but both shows rocked up down left right back & center.  And both were way better than the Thrak tour (not that it was bad, but Crim seems to get better with age).




Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 13:29
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

My favourite is definitley part 2, the studio version (even though the live versions are heavier and in a way stronger, the studio version still has the small details that are lost live... specially the interplay between Bruford and Muir, and the violin torturing of Cross). I have only heard part 3 on a live version, and it didn't really do much for me. I used to find part 1 too loose in the middle, but the new version they have been playing live just fixed that song for me.

Oh, I just meant of Part IV. :p

Of the overall suite, I'd have it:

One
Four
Two
Three 


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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: progbaby
Date Posted: September 30 2017 at 21:24
Lizard man Lizard man  Tongue


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 14:50
Ahh... So hard to choose...

Starless for me. Probably one of my favorite songs of all time!


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Posted By: fultongs
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 03:44
Epitaph is probably the track I play more than others. As it brings back many happy memories, anything from Lark's Tongues in Aspic is also a favourite.


Posted By: Frankh
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 04:19
Guess they've dropped Fracture from the set.

But, Fracture.

( I'll live without it. Rather live with it. )


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 05:46
Islands



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