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Topic: Three big modern prog men
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Three big modern prog men
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 19:07
I guess you can't totally ignore their perspective bands but I'm really wondering which artist you prefer as a solo performer. 



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 19:21
Sorry, but I'm going to go with other for Toby Driver (who is also quite a big name at PA).

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 19:42
Wilson for sure........


Posted By: Chula Vista
Date Posted: September 16 2017 at 23:37
Wilson definitely carrying the torch proudly. Sometimes really blatantly.

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Posted By: Olwe
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 02:40
Should be Akerfeldt, Duda, Wilson.

Still the wote would go to our barefoot celebrity.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 02:52
First vote for Neal (from an atheist, also)


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 07:16
Roine Stolt. I like Steven Wilson too, and Neal Morse, but Roine gets my vote.


Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 08:44
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Roine Stolt. I like Steven Wilson too, and Neal Morse, but Roine gets my vote.
 
I agree !!!Thumbs Up


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 10:19
Originally posted by Olwe Olwe wrote:

Should be Akerfeldt, Duda, Wilson.

Still the wote would go to our barefoot celebrity.

This ^


Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 11:07
Wilson


Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 15:38
Steven Wilson


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 16:34
Originally posted by Olwe Olwe wrote:

Should be Akerfeldt, Duda, Wilson.

Still the wote would go to our barefoot celebrity.

Why those three? Other than WIlson what significance do they have to the modern prog scene? I know of Akerfeldt but not Duda. 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 16:38
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Sorry, but I'm going to go with other for Toby Driver (who is also quite a big name at PA).

You are certainly entitled to vote for him but he's obviously not on the same level as the three I mentioned(at least not as far as popularity or influence goes). 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 17:51
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Sorry, but I'm going to go with other for Toby Driver (who is also quite a big name at PA).


You are certainly entitled to vote for him but he's obviously not on the same level as the three I mentioned(at least not as far as popularity or influence goes). 


Not nearly even in the terms of what I was thinking about, forum posts, these days methinks. The cult of the Toby seems to have gone, mostly. At one time it seeemed he was almost on a Magma level of people mentioning the name in topics about other people. bands. For instance, someone would start a thread about looking for music on Neil Morse, and someone else would respond with, "You should listen to Toby Driver". Okay, not on a Magma level which was gratuitously mentioned like no other, but pretty big.

Of course when I said pretty big I was specifically thinking of PA (Prog Archives), and more specifically I was thinking of in the forums with regular forum posters (were at least five that I can recall, and it only takes a few people to make a big impression, especially if they are loud and persistent). ;)

I think he used to be a bigger name at Prog Archives, but these days he doesn't get mentioned nearly so much, and various of those once illustrious posters have left. Kayo Dot and Maudlin of the Well were pretty popular here. Dowsing Anemone with Copper Tongue won collab album of the year in 2006, and Part the Second came close, as I recall. Steven Wilson is pretty unbeatable in such things, though. You, being quite new, though, would've missed when he got mentioned a lot in the polls (by a few posters, mostly, but they were kind of the cool kids, in-crowd, so...). ;) Of course Roine Stolt and Neal Morse have always had their followers here too, but I didn't associate with them so much.

Ah, now I'm thinking about the good old days (which probably weren't as rosy, anarchic or fun as my recollection makes it seem).

Anyway, I'm not a huge fan of Toby Driver (although I do like Blue Lambency Downward very much, Coyote is very good, and I enjoy In the L..L..Library Loft
very much), but I didn't want to vote none of the above.

I was listening to the Sky Moves Sideways though, the other day, after a along time and quite enjoying it. Of your three, I would vote for Steven Wilson. I dislike Neil Morse and Roine Stolt's exploits on the whole (from what I've heard). A The Flower Kings and Spock's Beard album were two of my earliest forays into modern Prog, and I really disliked them. I then found Miriodor and had my faith restored.

Wouldn't have said anything or voted at all had you not added the extra options.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 18:48
Well if you enjoy him that's all that matters. I'll add him to my list of people to check out. Another artist I left off is Devin Townshend. He seems pretty important too especially in the prog metal crowd. I even had someone tell me once they got into prog through him. 

Actually, I'm not really new. I have been on here a long time but under a different user name. It's only this user name that it is new. Yeah I have heard of Toby but you are right it has been a while. 


Posted By: Todd
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 01:08
Another vote for Morse

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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 08:44
I really like Steven Wilson but c'mon now: the correct answer is Neal Morse!!!


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 09:01
How is Roine Stolt a solo artist (or am I just missing something?)? Anyway, I respect him as a musician but have yet to come across anything he played on that resonated with me - be that Flower Kings, Kaipa, Karmakanic Agents Of Mercy.

I have great difficulties with Veal Horse - not because of his religious beliefs but because his voice sounds like a lesser version of Bruce Springsteen. Funny thing is I rather like Bruce whereas Veal's breathy almost heroic vocals make me climb the walls.

I like Steven a lot - moreso his old psychedelic self but I digress.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 09:30
He has released albums under his name: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=973" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=973

The first in 1979.

EDIT: rather than making a new post, I just re-listened to bits of the only Toby Driver album I have had (the Library one), and it doesn't appeal to me much now. I thought about doing John Zorn instead, but because he has been so active since the 1970s (Stolt goes back to then too, though) I discounted him.

I actually can't think of any prog proper modern solo artist that I love. Must be various in electronic Prog. I do like Marvin Ayres in Electronic Prog, and he had one of my albums of the year for 2016, but he is a little known name (especially for his solo work).

The one I really love who is a modern prog-related artist to my ears, but not in PA, is Matt Berry, and I'm tempted to do another poll with him. He's an actor, comedian and writer, but also a musician and composer, and I genuinely adore his albums.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 09:49
I did check out Flower Kings/Kaipa + some solo-album and Dixie Dregs/Steve Morse Band like fifteen years ago or something. None of what I heard sounded remotely close to was searching for (it turned out that was Art Zoyd, Can and Magma). After that I haven't bothered with poll-option number one and two to the extent that I couldn't recognize them even through their most well known piece of music - had I been exposed to it. But are they really that big? Or modern? The third option has occasionally created something I can enjoy, which means I prefer him. I can't say I'm a fan though.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 10:19
I guess Wilson, even if the last two albums aren't all that great. 

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Posted By: The Jester
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 10:22
I voted for Wilson, but nobody thought of even mentioning Clive Nolan? Seriously?


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 10:56
No quoting since I've been hit by captcha with every post made tonight (damn this place!!).
...but yeah I had no idea Roine had released albums under his own name. I bet they won't change my mind though as every tune I've heard of his, regardless of band, has had a similar sounding signature to them that does exactly nothing for me.
He is one of those musician that I really like personally and share a lot of in terms of thoughts on music and what he listens to himself...yet his own oevre remains uninteresting. I feel similarly about Chris Martin from Coldplay and the frontman in Green Day. Great personalities and views but, for me at least, flavourless music.

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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 03:10
From the list Morse, followed by Stolt, I don't care about Wilson at all.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 03:25
I'm tempted to vote other

an example - Jim Matheos of Fates Warning and then OSI (with Kevin Moore), Arch/Matheos, he was in Gordian Knot. 


Posted By: admireArt
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 20:19
FRIPP!! NO ONE COMES CLOSE!



Posted By: ProfPanglos
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 20:44
I went with other...

Mariusz Duda


Posted By: ProfPanglos
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 20:46
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Olwe Olwe wrote:

Should be Akerfeldt, Duda, Wilson.

Still the wote would go to our barefoot celebrity.

Why those three? Other than WIlson what significance do they have to the modern prog scene? I know of Akerfeldt but not Duda. 

Mariusz Duda is the shiz.  Front-man/bassist for Riverside, his solo project is Lunatic Soul.  He has great talent.


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 00:10
What about Antony Kalugin, for me is one of the most intresting figures in last 15 years in prog, involved in bands such as Karfagen, Sunchild , Hoggwash, all 3 excellent bands, unfairly unnoticed by prog circles.




Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 23:11
Buckethead

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 14:00
I'm a huge fan of Roine's tbh. His music's just magical.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 24 2017 at 11:09
I was reluctant to add Roine since he doesn't have the solo career the others have. Then again SW doesn't really have that many more solo albums than Roine. I think Roine might actually have more. 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 28 2017 at 16:05
Wilson of course but I like Morse a lot as well . No idea that Stolt had a solo career.
btw are we counting 'The Neal Morse Band' as solo?! It isn't really any different than his solo albums other than he avoid overtly religious themes in the songs.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 28 2017 at 23:36
i would probably highlight Derek Sherinian whom has released a couple of strong metal fusion albums where have an amazing collection of stellar guitarists and Simon Phillips. After exiting DT he have had a very strong and prosporus carear as a solo muician

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 06 2018 at 03:10
Wilson

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 06 2018 at 08:48
None of the above.


Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: May 06 2018 at 20:16
I can stand Morse and Stolt. Wilson, on the other hand...

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 06 2018 at 20:49
Mikael Åkerfeldt !!
But Steven Wilson from this list.


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 01:16
Steven Wilson

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 01:19
Originally posted by admireArt admireArt wrote:

FRIPP!! NO ONE COMES CLOSE!


except that he is not a modern prog man. :)

why all caps? Are you yelling at us? :))))


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 06:10
Out of these three: Neal Morse.

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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 07:58
Love all three but Neal Morse is a generational talent. Would love to see Wilson get off his high horse and work with either Morse or Stolt at some point. Oh yeah, they're too retro for him. As if his latest album wasn't derivative in the least. Nope.


Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 08:28
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Love all three but Neal Morse is a generational talent. Would love to see Wilson get off his high horse and work with either Morse or Stolt at some point. Oh yeah, they're too retro for him. As if his latest album wasn't derivative in the least. Nope.

That's pretty funny. Wilson has always been derivative to a certain extent. Is that really the reason he won't work with Stolt or Morse?
I've never been able to get into The Flower Kings but I'd love to see Wilson do something with Neal Morse. 


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 09:39
Interesting that Wilson is easily winning since so many here have bad mouthed him over the last few years.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 07 2018 at 09:43
Kristoffer Rygg

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