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Topic: Pastoral UK Prog albums?
Posted By: dauinghorn
Subject: Pastoral UK Prog albums?
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 02:30
Hello!

I'm looking for MORE pastoral, folky, autumnal British prog, preferably from the late 60s and 70s, but also newer stuff if it suits the description. I know all the familiar stuff, so no need to mention Camel.

Things I like:

Still Life
Cressida
Gravy Train
Spring
Renaissance
early Caravan
Indian Summer



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 02:46
I saw the thread title and wanted to recommend you Spring and Cressida Seems like you've got the British pastoral side taken care of. No interest in any such music from other places? Italy is the perfect country for the type of pastoral prog you're searching for.

But yeah back to Britain; maybe check out some Strawbs ie Hero & Heroin, Procol Harum's Shine On Brightly, Traffic's Low Spark of High Heeled Boys, Rare Bird's s/t, Barclay James Harvest's Once Again, Moody Blues' On The Threshold Of A Dream, Renaissance's debut, Gracious' debut and maybe Affinity's s/t.

Oh and don't forget about those Italians;)

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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 02:57
I can think of these:

Asia Minor - Between Flesh And Divine (Half British)
Terpandre - S/T (Not British but might work since it's instrumental)
Barclay James Harvest - Once Again
Carol Of Harvest
Gadi Caplan - Morning Sun
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn

Don't get stuck on British bands man, there so much out there that can fit you.



Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 03:32
Anthony Phillips' "The Geese and the Ghost" is the most pastoral album I can think of


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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 03:41
Does Big Big Train recent output fit in that category - IMO some of it does, check it out yourself (and don't forget those Italians Cool)


Posted By: noni
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 08:40
The Enid


Posted By: noni
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 08:42
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Anthony Phillips' "The Geese and the Ghost" is the most pastoral album I can think of

Tarka and Slowdance are also very good and highly recommended.


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 09:44
Strawbs "From the Witchwood" and "Grave New World".  There are a few songs on each that are too heavy to be pastoral, but the overall effect is there.  Probably their early album "Dragonfly" is closes to being pastoral all the way through.

Certainly Amazing Blondel, all the albums up to and including "Blondel", and even, to a lesser extent, "Mulgrave Street" and "Inspiration"
Clannad is Irish but often very pastoral, especially "Clannad 2", Dulaman" and "Fuaim"
Paul Brett's "Songs from the Compleat Angler"
Fuchsia, both their first self titled and their recent comeback
Another Irish group "Loudest Whisper"
Madden and Harris "Fool's Paradise"
Tir Na Nog (also Irish), "A Tear and a Smile"



A few other obscure ones come to mind, like O.W.L (Of Wondrous Legends)



Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 09:54
I like Uzva a lot. Try it out. You won't be dissapointed.

My favorite 'genre' btw, so I will keep a close eye to this thread. Bands I already can tip:

Camel (UK)
Barclay James Harvest (UK)
Moody Blues (UK)
Jade Warrior (UK)
Mike Oldfield (UK)
(some) Eloy
Flower Kings
Big Big Train (UK)
Maneige
Sloche

Edit: most of the are not british. I will add UK to the britisch bands


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 10:16
^ hmm I don't think Eloy are pastoral at all, maybe a few songs here or there, but then many bands have a few pastoral songs, even Led Zeppelin.  What I've heard of Flower kings wouldn't qualify either.
I don't generally think of Camel as pastoral but both Nude and Dust and Dreams have lots of sections that I guess would qualify
But JADE WARRIOR is a great one I missed!




Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 11:46
I can think of lot of bands with pastoral prog in between less pastoral prog but here's the most pastoral I can think of. 

Continuum - St. (1970)
Skin Alley - St. I seem to be in a minority preferring their debut from 1969. Maybe try their follow-up as well.
+most of Pentangle really - but their first four are their essentials. 

pastoral jazzfusion:
Tonton Macoute

...but really why should it matter whether this pastoral prog is from the UK or elsewhere?

Arleta / Αρλέτα - Six days / Έξi μέρες (Grc)
Ptarmigan - St. (can)
Ragnarok - St. (swe)
Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer (us)
Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes (us)
Celeste - Principe Di Giorno  (ita)

More pastoral jazzfusion:
The Advancement - St. (us)

+ there's also some band or artist I really love that escaped my mind & much more.


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 12:20
Hi,

I'm not sure what the OP is requesting ... but if it is something that is almost folk'ish and with an edge to it ... the whole MAN family just about fits. I was even thinking Neutrons and Help Yourself.

Assuming that those two are not way too .. out there ... for anyone to know, or have heard. But their albums are neat and very enjoyable, specially Neutrons two albums which stand out a lot.


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 12:42
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Traffic's Low Spark of High Heeled Boys

A great album! But equally good, and I think more pastoral, from Traffic is John Barleycorn Must Die.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 12:48
I was a wavering between the two but ultimately ended up recommending the high heeled boys for the closer, Rainmaker, which is about the perfect mix of pastoral and psych to these ears. Barleycorn is such a great album as well and should preferably reside in any rock fan's collection.

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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 12:53
^ Good recommendations and nice taste - I love both Traffic (think I still have a vinyl sleeping in the attic somewhere)


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 12:56
So just for the feck of it: pastoral is just code for gentle/wafting music with mellotron right?

In any case I completely forgot about Janus' Gravedigger. Truth be told it's only the b-side that frolicks in pastoral moods. The a-side sounds like a bluesy Sabbath. Worth getting solely for that epic 20+ min titletrack though.
Oh yeah they're German

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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:01
John G. Perry - Sunset Wading
Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden / Laughing Stock
XTC - Apple Venus
The Sea Nymphs - s/t
William D. Drake - Revere Reach
North Sea Radio Orchestra - all


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:05
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

^ Good recommendations and nice taste - I love both Traffic (think I still have a vinyl sleeping in the attic somewhere)

Thanks man. You should visit the attic more often Maybe find some cool music, weed and antique porn

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:10
I see Simon has upped the ante and actually recommended music outside the 'gentle/wafting mellotron' umbrella. Kudos good man.
I see the Sea Nymphs and raise you with Popol Vuh's Hosianna Mantra.

A damn! German again

Errmm...alrighty then the Popol Vuh is definitely off limits then. How about First Utterance instead

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:30
if you open it up to the Germans this thread would be inundated.  Novalis anyone?  Witthuser and Westrupp, Hoelderlin, Bayon, Aigues Vives, Sundenfall II, Fit and Limo, Midnight Circus, Emtidi, oy veh

Then of course there's the Basque contingent - Itoiz, Enbor, Magdalena

one more Brit group to add would be FRESH MAGGOTS

And we musn't forget the Argentinian group actually called PASTORAL!


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:51
'Fantasy'   have that nice early Brit thing going on....similar to Spring and Cressida.
I'm a big fan of these early Brit symph and proto prog bands.






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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:51
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I was a wavering between the two but ultimately ended up recommending the high heeled boys for the closer, Rainmaker, which is about the perfect mix of pastoral and psych to these ears. Barleycorn is such a great album as well and should preferably reside in any rock fan's collection.


Rainmaker, my fave Traffic song of all

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:54
Hah! Yeah erm best not open up the floodgates just yet?

You forgot the Argentinian yardstick for pastoral music: Luis Alberto Spinetta. Here on PA with band Invisible, Spinetta Jade and an earlier band called Almendra. This man's voice can make the inside of my stomach tremble it's so beautiful.

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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 13:57
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

How about First Utterance instead

Death Pastoral! For when the crops are black and rotten, and the shepherd got ergotism and murdered the milkmaid. I think you invented a new genre.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:04
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I was a wavering between the two but ultimately ended up recommending the high heeled boys for the closer, Rainmaker, which is about the perfect mix of pastoral and psych to these ears. Barleycorn is such a great album as well and should preferably reside in any rock fan's collection.


Rainmaker, my fave Traffic song of all

Hey-ho ranger joe - we should build a fort together.
Love that song. One of my fave things about it is it's ability to stay within the confines of acceptable twee. So easy tipping over in full blown sugarhippie mode aka the precursor to contemporary emo vocals: 'Uuuuuuuhhhhh I've got soooooo much emotional feeeeeling!!!!'

...which is something so rarely done right. Mark Hollis and Morissey used to nail it though imo but I'm sure many would disagree (I know for a fact that Morissey is like sonic kryptonite to Dean - bless his boots).

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:04
^ I'm a big fan of Traffic...especially John Barley Corn and Low Spark....a must for a serious music fans.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:07
^^

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:14
Hard to find.....



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:23
Good one Doc
And very hard to find indeed.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:25
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I see Simon has upped the ante and actually recommended music outside the 'gentle/wafting mellotron' umbrella. Kudos good man. 

Huh my only mellotron-suggestion was Celeste and they're italian. Pastoral would be visually similar to  picturesque wouldn't it? I picture some kind of peaceful, lovely countryside landscape, but not total wilderness so I'll maybe it needs a mill, a field or maybe a distant farm, a flock of sheep and why not add a shepherdess plus perhaps some beautiful horses too... 


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:30
Yeah but you cheated
Doesn't matter now we're all doing it anyway
Your description of pastoral fits in perfectly with mine...and Perry Leopold. Christian Lucifer is like listening to condensed field extract.

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Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:36
Thanks a lot, you guys! Some stuff I haven't heard.

Loudest Whisper - bought CHildren of Lir a few months ago. Superb folk/psych-musical. I love it.
Eloy - Not the kind of band I would categorize as "Pastoral". More space-ish.
Traffic - Rainmaker is my favourite too, and definitely what I would put in the pastoral bag! Don't like the outro, though... Hidden Treasures is a great track as well.
Barclay James Harvest - Galadriel is my favorite tune by them, but I have too listen more carefully to the rest.

Of course there's cool with other recommendations from other countries. Ragnarök and Landberk is definitely pastoral, but I must say there is a certain grey, British countryside vibe that I'm looking for. And of course, flute and Mellotron :)


Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:37
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

^ Good recommendations and nice taste - I love both Traffic (think I still have a vinyl sleeping in the attic somewhere)

Thanks man. You should visit the attic more often Maybe find some cool music, weed and antique porn


Look - I went to the attic and couldn't find no LP of Traffic (or any porn, btw Clown) but this pearl of '78 I had completely forgot .
Does it count as pastoral ?




Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:44
Hey I have that one - granted only got it because I LOVED Baker Street. Think I was 9 or something. Still have the cd but I see you go longer back with it mister LP
The rest of the album is pretty smokin too. I'm sure Hercules will join us shortly and sing it's praises too.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:46
Another I like from the early days....



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Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 14:54
Guldbamsen: Gracious does have some pastoral vibes,especially "Heaven", but Affinity is more on the soul/jazz/funk side, although it has one of the most pastoral covers ever, haha!

I have listened a lot to Italian prog, and I totally agree that they have some sacral, pastoral, classical vibe, but as I stated earlier, there is a certain vibe I'm hungry for. I will check out more Moody Blues, Strawbs, Renaissance and Barclay James Harvest!


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 15:19
I have to also mention Pererin, who sing in Welsh.  Their first 2 albums might fit the bill


Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 15:22


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 15:53
I assume the op knows geese and ghost by Anthony Phillips, tubular bells by Mike Oldfield and the six wives of henry VIII by Rick Wakeman. Those are obvious choices(at least to me). Maybe some early PFM too and other Italian prog I'm sure.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 15:57
Originally posted by dauinghorn dauinghorn wrote:

I have listened a lot to Italian prog, and I totally agree that they have some sacral, pastoral, classical vibe, but as I stated earlier, there is a certain vibe I'm hungry for. I will check out more Moody Blues, Strawbs, Renaissance and Barclay James Harvest!
I see - but don't forget to check out the Skin Alley and Continuum-debuts (and perhaps follow-ups). Those were both serious and geographically correct pastoral suggestions.


Posted By: grantman
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 16:49
not necessary prog but what we did on our holidays fairport convention and any early strawbs first four genesis albums


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 19 2017 at 23:28
I guess I don't know any more british pastoral bands than have been recommended already. But I haven't seen Harmonium mentioned. Great pastoral sounding band from Canada, singing in french. Just listen to the song "Histoires sans Paroles" (though that one is instrumental), and you will just have to imagine some sunny days in open green spaces, or the sea, whatever.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 05:04
Originally posted by dauinghorn dauinghorn wrote:

Guldbamsen: Gracious does have some pastoral vibes,especially "Heaven", but Affinity is more on the soul/jazz/funk side, although it has one of the most pastoral covers ever, haha!

I have listened a lot to Italian prog, and I totally agree that they have some sacral, pastoral, classical vibe, but as I stated earlier, there is a certain vibe I'm hungry for. I will check out more Moody Blues, Strawbs, Renaissance and Barclay James Harvest!

You may just be right regarding Affinity;)

Btw I know you're mostly looking for old school bands but what about new acts that sound like they were lifted straight out of the British countryside ca. 1971? If so then do yourself a favour and check out Magic Bus. They sounds like early Caravan reincarnated - and you get that old timey warm analogue production as well.

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Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 05:17
Sounds great, I will check them out!

One recommendation for you as well, Offa Rex' new album. Very nice Fairport-inspired folk.

Principe Di Giorno is definitely very pastoral, mellow Mello and a lush, warm feeling all the way. Well, that's what I remember of the album, at least. Will give it a new listen.

But now, a powernap accompanied by Asia Minor!


Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 05:18
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

^ hmm I don't think Eloy are pastoral at all, maybe a few songs here or there, but then many bands have a few pastoral songs, even Led Zeppelin.  What I've heard of Flower kings wouldn't qualify either.
I don't generally think of Camel as pastoral but both Nude and Dust and Dreams have lots of sections that I guess would qualify
But JADE WARRIOR is a great one I missed!



If it's a folky stuff you're reffering to, than Eloy and Camel are no contenders, but if it's because the bands have nature as subject, than Camel sure is a contender. Especially The Snow Goose. I guess Eloy is too heavy, I agree.

Flower Kings are too heavy indeed.


Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 16:01
I'm on my way to getting really into Strawbs right now. Incredible moods and feeling.


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 17:07
Spring, but only for The Prisoner and Grail


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 20:08
Originally posted by dauinghorn dauinghorn wrote:

I'm on my way to getting really into Strawbs right now. Incredible moods and feeling.

lucky you!  


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 00:19
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Spring, but only for The Prisoner and Grail
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo...


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 00:29
No ?


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 00:37
No. LOL

Pierre don't you enjoy the whole thing?


Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 02:52
I will also add Sandy Denny's first solo album and Spriguns' "Time Will Pass". There's so much folk rock that fits the description.


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 03:27
No Sag, I'm so impressed by the first two titles that I forget to listen to the rest. The whole album sounds like an EP for me.


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 03:34
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

No Sag, I'm so impressed by the first two titles that I forget to listen to the rest. The whole album sounds like an EP for me.
I'm a sucker for it, even for the bonus tracks. Big smile


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 04:36
Tough question as prog tends to gravitate towards bombast.

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 05:02
OK Sagi, next time I promise to listen to it till the end .


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 05:27
How about Sebastian Hardie's Four Moments? Sure he's from Australia but it doesn't sound like that.

Thanks for rec btw Dauinghorn

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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 06:15
Originally posted by dauinghorn dauinghorn wrote:

I will also add Sandy Denny's first solo album and Spriguns' "Time Will Pass". There's so much folk rock that fits the description.


Everything by Sandy, YES! (and then some Fotheringay)


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 07:25
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

Originally posted by dauinghorn dauinghorn wrote:

I will also add Sandy Denny's first solo album and Spriguns' "Time Will Pass". There's so much folk rock that fits the description.


Everything by Sandy, YES! (and then some Fotheringay)

definitely Fotheringay


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 14:45
Lots of my favourites already mentioned but I have to add (even if they are not prog) 'Alan Hull- Pipedreams', Lindisfarne- Nicely out of tune' and the first two Brinsley Schwartz lps. Also Family- Family Entertainment and Music from a Dolls house which have a touch of that 'getting it together in the country' feel for me.

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 14:55
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Lots of my favourites already mentioned but I have to add (even if they are not prog) 'Alan Hull- Pipedreams', Lindisfarne- Nicely out of tune' and the first two Brinsley Schwartz lps. Also Family- Family Entertainment and Music from a Dolls house which have a touch of that 'getting it together in the country' feel for me.

I love Lindisfarne but they tend to the raucous side of things a bit, even when in their country-ish style.  They certainly have some lovely pastoral moments here and there though


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 14:55
A couple more suggestions.
Mellow Candle- Swaddling songs
Trees- the Garden of Jane Trelawney



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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 15:03
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Lots of my favourites already mentioned but I have to add (even if they are not prog) 'Alan Hull- Pipedreams', Lindisfarne- Nicely out of tune' and the first two Brinsley Schwartz lps. Also Family- Family Entertainment and Music from a Dolls house which have a touch of that 'getting it together in the country' feel for me.

I love Lindisfarne but they tend to the raucous side of things a bit, even when in their country-ish style.  They certainly have some lovely pastoral moments here and there though

I do agree.. partly why I choose the first lp. I find Alan Hull's contributions to be a bit more considered and introspective. I guess i'm thinking a bit beyond Traffic and Barclay James Harvest as they're the obvious ones but maybe not taking the 'Flute and Mellotron' bit into consideration enough.. i'd also add things like early medicine head (bang on the drum), The first 'Old straight track' lp and even Man's 'Be good to yourself at least once a day'... maybe its more 'laying in a sunny field...' musicWink


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 15:08
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Lots of my favourites already mentioned but I have to add (even if they are not prog) 'Alan Hull- Pipedreams', Lindisfarne- Nicely out of tune' and the first two Brinsley Schwartz lps. Also Family- Family Entertainment and Music from a Dolls house which have a touch of that 'getting it together in the country' feel for me.

I love Lindisfarne but they tend to the raucous side of things a bit, even when in their country-ish style.  They certainly have some lovely pastoral moments here and there though
Totally agree Ken, and that's the problem with trying to find prog that's just pastoral. Everyone has their folky quiet moments but these bands like to rock. Even with just two acoustic guitars, like Comus.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 15:12
I wonder if Seventh Wave's Things To Come would qualify. It certainly is a regular smorgasbord of mellotron and keyboards.

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Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 15:29
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Lots of my favourites already mentioned but I have to add (even if they are not prog) 'Alan Hull- Pipedreams', Lindisfarne- Nicely out of tune' and the first two Brinsley Schwartz lps. Also Family- Family Entertainment and Music from a Dolls house which have a touch of that 'getting it together in the country' feel for me.

Wow, listened to Family yesterday! Great band. I only have Doll's House physically (UK original LP), but I have plans to get hold of Family Entertainment as well. The Weaver's Answer is one f**king superb track!

I will check out your other recommendations also!


Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 15:33
May I recommend some stuff from Norway? The Chronicles of Father Robin released a brilliant EP some years ago. They've been playing together since the early 90s, but have only released this 12 inch record. Superb... With members from Wobbler and Tusmřrke. I think it's quite pastoral at times. And.. those beautiful vocal lines from Andreas Prestmo... Incredible! Why aren't they on ProgArchives?! Can someone help me with this?

https://soundcloud.com/tcofr/the-chronicles-of-father-robin


Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 05:43
Not British, mut Finnish, but to me the most beautiful pastoral (fusion/symfo/world) music ever made:



Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 05:48
^  Good call!  What a band. Three albums, three masterpieces, IMO. Though theirs is a distinctively Finnish, rather than British-sounding, version of pastoral.

Just listening to Tammela In January, which always makes me happy.


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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 06:03
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

^  Good call!  What a band. Three albums, three masterpieces, IMO. Though theirs is a distinctively Finnish, rather than British-sounding, version of pastoral.

Just listening to Tammela In January, which always makes me happy.

If it's typical Finnish, what else can you recommend? I know Hidria Spacefolk and Tenhi, and also more spacerock influenced bands like Taipuva Luotisuora.
I like electric heavy music, but I love the more acoustic classical/folk/jazz influenced (intstrumental) symphonic rock.

I haven't yet found a band that could rival Uzva.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 06:19
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

If it's typical Finnish, what else can you recommend? I know Hidria Spacefolk and Tenhi, and also more spacerock influenced bands like Taipuva Luotisuora.
I like electric heavy music, but I love the more acoustic classical/folk/jazz influenced (intstrumental) symphonic rock.

I haven't yet found a band that could rival Uzva.

I don't know if I'd say typical, but there is a certain something in their sound that to me is Finnish - recognisable but not definable (by me, anyway).

Try these for starters:












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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 06:31
For when you get done with those:










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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 06:58
You forgot Tasavallan Presidentti :D

edit: I will try your recommendations. If it's too dark (like Tenhi) I don't really like it. I like it jumpy :D


Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 07:02
Haha, now we're taking the UK pastoral feeling a little bit far from home, aren't we? :)
I love finnish prog! I have all the records mentioned here, except some of the newer stuff.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 07:08
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

You forgot Tasavallan Presidentti :D

I woulda got to them next post, don't worry!

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:


edit: I will try your recommendations. If it's too dark (like Tenhi) I don't really like it. I like it jumpy :D

The Pekka Pohjola, Jukka Gustavson and Jukka Tolonen may be closest in feel to Uzva.


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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 07:18
^ and ^^ 

What's so typical about UK pastoral?
It has to have flute, lute, acoustic guitar, and lyrics about the landscapes?

When you want newer Finnish pastoral prog, I can't stress enough how great Uzva is. They have this Soft Machine/Mike Oldfield/Caravan/Camel thing going.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 07:45
Originally posted by dauinghorn dauinghorn wrote:

Haha, now we're taking the UK pastoral feeling a little bit far from home, aren't we? :)
I love finnish prog! I have all the records mentioned here, except some of the newer stuff.

Sorry, derailed your thread. I'm a big lover of Finnish music myself, jazz as well as prog / rock. Cannot get enough of it!


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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 24 2017 at 13:30
Ok, another UK pastoral band to consider is Stackridge.. 'Friendliness' is the lp i'd recommend although the 1st S/T lp is great as is 'Man in the bowler hat' (called 'Pinafore days' in the US).

Another band worth trying are Audience and 'Friends friend friend' is the lp i'd recommend or maybe 'House on the hill'


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 24 2017 at 14:50
Jim O Rourke : Eureka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOc_0KwoRw8


Posted By: noni
Date Posted: September 24 2017 at 17:47
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Ok, another UK pastoral band to consider is Stackridge.. 'Friendliness' is the lp i'd recommend although the 1st S/T lp is great as is 'Man in the bowler hat' (called 'Pinafore days' in the US).

Another band worth trying are Audience and 'Friends friend friend' is the lp i'd recommend or maybe 'House on the hill'

Stackridge, what a fantastic band indeed and great album you mentioned...  They have stopped touring as of last year and made one cd to mark the occasion.  It's a shame,  but these guys have regular jobs.


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 28 2017 at 15:31
Mc Donald and Giles
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 07:59
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I can think of lot of bands with pastoral prog in between less pastoral prog but here's the most pastoral I can think of. 

Continuum - St. (1970)
Skin Alley - St. I seem to be in a minority preferring their debut from 1969. Maybe try their follow-up as well.
+most of Pentangle really - but their first four are their essentials. 

pastoral jazzfusion:
Tonton Macoute

...but really why should it matter whether this pastoral prog is from the UK or elsewhere?

Arleta / Αρλέτα - Six days / Έξi μέρες (Grc)
Ptarmigan - St. (can)
Ragnarok - St. (swe)
Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer (us)
Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes (us)
Celeste - Principe Di Giorno  (ita)

More pastoral jazzfusion:
The Advancement - St. (us)

+ there's also some band or artist I really love that escaped my mind & much more.

some good ones there for sure Clap
I only just discovered the Perry Leopold album and it's truly a lost classic.  I did a review recently, but do check out David's brilliant review


May I also recommend Forest (UK), 2 pastoral albums from late 60s early 70s



Or Decameron, 4 albums from 1973-1976.  This is my fave by them, the most mellotronic string sound I have ever heard



Or Mr Toad, millenium group from Israel, but clearly from the "I Talk to the Wind" school



Canadian Garfield French's first album from 1976 is very English pastoral.  



Their second is very proggy but not as pastoral of course.  Excellent though





And can't forget this fellow, Bob Theil, with a lost almost classic from 1982. Like Al Stewart meets Pink Floyd








Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 09:08
Garfield are Canadian. 


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 09:58
Originally posted by Kepler62 Kepler62 wrote:

Garfield are Canadian. 

yup, as I noted above, along with Mr Toad (Israel).  But I think both are in the spirit of 1970s UK prog folk
That said, Garfield put on quite a cosmic light show back in the day, anything but pastoral when live Big smile


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 10:05
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

some good ones there for sure Clap

Thanks! Wrote a long reply but it got lost in that incredibly annoying PA... crap... thing... I don't know what its called but I get so angry when it happens that its not healthy for me to try and post stuff here. So I guess I'll be gone for a while. Its just not worth it.


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 10:24
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

some good ones there for sure Clap

Thanks! Wrote a long reply but it got lost in that incredibly annoying PA... crap... thing... I don't know what its called but I get so angry when it happens that its not healthy for me to try and post stuff here. So I guess I'll be gone for a while. Its just not worth it.

I know just what you mean.  It happened to me with my long post.  I had to go back in my browser on youtube to find everything I linked.  And I still haven't trained myself to save the post to the clipboard before trying to post it  Cry

Hope you stay around though 


Posted By: progbaby
Date Posted: September 30 2017 at 21:34
Gracious.   You can't miss with either of their albums.  Get them both.  Super Nova is one of the best prog pieces of all time.    Same with "Heaven".   And you can't miss with the first 10 minutes of "Flight" from "As your mind flies by" by Rare Bird.


Posted By: progbaby
Date Posted: September 30 2017 at 21:44
How about jade from 1970. Great album



and Trader Horne from 1970



Magna Carta from 1970



Tudor Lodge (start this at 59 seconds to skip over the noisy intro) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_FaXMk8eBU&t=59s


Bread Love and Dreams



Harmonium, etc..




Posted By: dauinghorn
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 12:19
Thanks a lot for the replies, I will check out the stuff I don't know from before.

I will add Bill Fay and Nick Drake's orchestrated works to this thread. Definitely rainy, grey, countryside British music, and utterly beautiful!



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