Trace vs Triumvirat
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Topic: Trace vs Triumvirat
Posted By: Meltdowner
Subject: Trace vs Triumvirat
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 06:06
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I heard both this week, I figured they'd make a nice poll. |
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 06:16
| Triumvirat |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 06:18
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I'll go with Trace on this one ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 07:21
TriumviRAT for me  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 07:25
| Triumvirat |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 07:30
| Another vote for Triumvirat. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 08:10
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Spartacus! ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 09:28
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Trace is awesome but against Sparticus... Triumvirat for the win!!!
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Posted By: lostrom
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 09:43
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Trace. ------------- lostrom |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 11:17
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Two bands led by classically trained keyboard virtuosos. One is an instrumental trio that doesn't sound that much like ELP. The other is a band that started out emulating ELP heavily and found its own sound. I love both these albums (I heard Trace and Birds long before I heard Spartacus) and will not vote for one over the other.
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 12:15
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Love Triumvirat.Trace is great though. ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 12:42
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Presdougvirat. Don't remember hearing Trace. ------------- |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 13:39
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Triumvirat ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 14:04
You shoulda voted Trace just to troll the forum. Prog dudes would've been WTF???  ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
presdoug wrote:Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 14:25
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^Haha! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 14:26
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Triumvirat. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 14:33
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Trace was more original, but Triumvirat. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 14:41
| Triumvirat! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 15:11
I genuinely can't remember a beep from either album  I'll be back. I remember digging Double Dimple a little while back so am looking forward to Spartacus. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: September 20 2017 at 17:22
| TRIUMVIRAT |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 17:15
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Trace. Rick van der Linden was one of the truly great keyboards players, and when you add Jaap van Eik and ex Focus drummer Pierre VDL (who was then replaced by Ian Mosley, of course), you have a killer band. Triumvirat are good, but not in the same league. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 17:31
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I changed my mind. Vote goes to Trace. I liked them way before T'rat. Birds is one of my favorite records. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 17:31
Yeah, Trace is awesome. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 03:00
When I think of great keyboard players, I think of Konvergencie (Collegium Musicum) or Alas, Trace was never too big for me. Very classical, but I found it decently repetitive. I only own the Trace debut, so I can firmly say that Spartacus wins it for me, even though I like Double Dimple lots better. Other keyboardists I like much better, in the following bands: Cardiacs, Atlas, Crucis, Dom, Finch, George Duke (Zappa), Gryphon, Hatfield, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Jose Cid, Le Orme, Locanda, Mort Garson, Metamorfosi, Motoi Sakuraba, National Health, OMD, Residents, Tom Ze, Van Der Graaf.. My point is: I'm not too big on Trace, and I was hoping I would be because I love keyboard-oriented albums, but that album just doesn't stick. At least for me! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 04:23
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I really enjoyed both of these records although I would have to give a slight edge to Trace...not by a whole much. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 10:21
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I tried, I really tried, with Trace. From what I had heard about them, I thought I would love them to bits, but they are second rate, in my estimation. They seem to be just going through the motions in their music, whereas Triumvirat, well most of you know my stance on that. T'rat's Spartacus is so refreshing and full of vitality, upon every listen, and I have been listening to it for decades. Trace are not in the Rat's league, really, though how hard they try! |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 11:10
I am taking my Triumvirat albums for a walk today (Mediterranean-Pompeii), been a while. Did a quick search and realised there are no live recordings from them! Any info about the reason why, Doug? I mean, everybody has released at least one live record during the 70's. That Trace sounds interesting. Cheapest I saw it is $30 so I'll probably wait for a used copy to show up. ------------- |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 11:22
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 11:26
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Not really sure why something truly legit and live does not exist by the band. I guess that in their prime, they had a pretty short lived tenure. I will keep hunting high and low, though. There may be something archival we don't know about that is audio and really great sounding. Let's hope so. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 11:41
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^^ I'll be back for that bootleg, I'm curious to hear it. Anyway, I voted for Trace, since I bought it more recently and been very much into it.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 12:26
All right, thanks. *fingers crossed* ------------- |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 14:54
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: September 22 2017 at 19:22
| I went with Trace. Focus got me into progressive rock back in '74 same year that the first Trace album came out. They definitely capitalised on the success of Focus and I was also into Ekseption. Always looked at Trace as slightly better than ELP. Triumvirat lacked the musical background of both but had some good compositions on Illusions and Spartacus. Trace were just more exciting. Birds was a masterpiece. Love that whole album as well as the artwork. Great stuff. |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 23 2017 at 08:09
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I voted trace beacuse i prefer this album over Spartacus, but vs "Illusions" or "Mediterranean" i prefer Triumvirat |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 24 2017 at 08:50
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Nice poll, I hadn't listened to Spartacus for ages and wasn't aware of Trace, and this one made me listen to them both. Although I'm not that keen on Koellen's vocals and it's a bit too ELP-like for me, Spartacus wins it. My appreciation for Trace is intellectual but it mostly misses me emotionally (same for some other of van der Linden's music). |
Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: September 26 2017 at 19:53
| Just listened to Spartacus for the first time in eons. The Gladiator theme sails the seas of Lindberger. The music is fine but it's just those cheesy lyrics. The cover with the mouse has absolutely nothing to do with the theme of the album. At least on Pompeii they has some cheesy artwork that had something to to with thecheesy theme. That's the problem I've always had with this band. Too cheese. I'm not even going to say anything about a la Carte. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 02:06
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Triumvirat! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |