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Topic: A beautiful prog moment
Posted By: progbaby
Subject: A beautiful prog moment
Date Posted: September 30 2017 at 22:56
I can't get past this beautiful melody with the oboe from Bolero from Crimson's Lizard album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC4KoQW9axw&t=5m39s

Please help recommend some other songs/tracks like that.  Also, the closing section of Gracious' Super Nova = simply wonderful as is their song "Heaven".

I'm hungry for more moments like that.  Please feed my fat belly.



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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: October 01 2017 at 10:51
I knew exactly what moment you're talking about even before opening the video. I agree, one of the most beautiful melodies in prog (and to my ears sounds like it later inspired the opening melody of Starless).

Here are another couple of songs that give me the same sort of impression:

Camel - Nimrodel/The Procession/The White Rider
Caravan - L'Auberge du Sanglier/etc. (The opening gives the same sort of haunting feel, and the orchestral buildup closer to the end is more along the lines of the Gracious sample you shared, but with a spacier mood)
Gotic - Historia d'Una Gota d'Aigua (The last half of this song is another gorgeous symphonic buildup)
Harmonium - Histoires Sans Paroles (A lot "brighter" than the King Crimson one, but still has some gorgeous flute melodies)
PFM - Dove... Quando..., Pt. 1
PFM - Appena Un Po 
Quella Vecchia Locanda - Sogno, Risveglio E... (Highly recommended that you listen to the whole Quella Vecchia Locanda album, actually; makes the ending even more powerful in contrast)

And a couple of other examples from King Crimson themselves:

King Crimson - Prelude: Song of The Gulls/Islands (If you aren't familiar with the Islands album yet, I'd advise you to give it a listen. It seems that Lizard fans and Islands fans tend to go hand in hand)
King Crimson - Exiles 


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: October 01 2017 at 12:28
A. Roussel - Le Marchand de sable qui passe Op. 13


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GZlVWvPo3k


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 01 2017 at 15:39
Hergest Ridge by Mike Oldfield
Sommerabend by Novalis

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 01 2017 at 15:51
MARILLION hold many, beautiful prog moments. Rothery's lead in This Strange Engine is just pure bliss.


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: October 02 2017 at 14:59
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

I knew exactly what moment you're talking about even before opening the video. I agree, one of the most beautiful melodies in prog (and to my ears sounds like it later inspired the opening melody of Starless).

Here are another couple of songs that give me the same sort of impression:

Camel - Nimrodel/The Procession/The White Rider
Caravan - L'Auberge du Sanglier/etc. (The opening gives the same sort of haunting feel, and the orchestral buildup closer to the end is more along the lines of the Gracious sample you shared, but with a spacier mood)
Gotic - Historia d'Una Gota d'Aigua (The last half of this song is another gorgeous symphonic buildup)
Harmonium - Histoires Sans Paroles (A lot "brighter" than the King Crimson one, but still has some gorgeous flute melodies)
PFM - Dove... Quando..., Pt. 1
PFM - Appena Un Po 
Quella Vecchia Locanda - Sogno, Risveglio E... (Highly recommended that you listen to the whole Quella Vecchia Locanda album, actually; makes the ending even more powerful in contrast)

And a couple of other examples from King Crimson themselves:

King Crimson - Prelude: Song of The Gulls/Islands (If you aren't familiar with the Islands album yet, I'd advise you to give it a listen. It seems that Lizard fans and Islands fans tend to go hand in hand)
King Crimson - Exiles 

Nailed.  Guilty as charged.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 02 2017 at 15:04
The entire Moonmadness album by Camel is one, beautiful Prog moment !!


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 03 2017 at 09:38
I posted this yesterday in the NOvalis/Hoelderlin thread, and will keep posting it till somebody acknowledges its beauty besides me!  Its lead instrument is not an oboe but a German traditional folk instrument that sounds oboe-ish






Posted By: progbaby
Date Posted: October 03 2017 at 11:25
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

I knew exactly what moment you're talking about even before opening the video. I agree, one of the most beautiful melodies in prog (and to my ears sounds like it later inspired the opening melody of Starless).

Here are another couple of songs that give me the same sort of impression:

Camel - Nimrodel/The Procession/The White Rider
Caravan - L'Auberge du Sanglier/etc. (The opening gives the same sort of haunting feel, and the orchestral buildup closer to the end is more along the lines of the Gracious sample you shared, but with a spacier mood)
Gotic - Historia d'Una Gota d'Aigua (The last half of this song is another gorgeous symphonic buildup)
Harmonium - Histoires Sans Paroles (A lot "brighter" than the King Crimson one, but still has some gorgeous flute melodies)
PFM - Dove... Quando..., Pt. 1
PFM - Appena Un Po 
Quella Vecchia Locanda - Sogno, Risveglio E... (Highly recommended that you listen to the whole Quella Vecchia Locanda album, actually; makes the ending even more powerful in contrast)

And a couple of other examples from King Crimson themselves:

King Crimson - Prelude: Song of The Gulls/Islands (If you aren't familiar with the Islands album yet, I'd advise you to give it a listen. It seems that Lizard fans and Islands fans tend to go hand in hand)
King Crimson - Exiles 

those are all great recommendations.  Believe it or not, I have all of those.  I love the Gotic one you mentioned with the flute solo.   And yes the QVL violen piece - just awesome.   thanks for all of the recommendations from you and everyone else!


Posted By: progbaby
Date Posted: October 03 2017 at 11:25
Adding to that is the song "Heaven" and "Super Nova" by Gracious!


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 03 2017 at 21:58
Harmonium was already mentioned for Histoires sans Paroles, and indeed that song is just one wonderful melody after another, and I couldn't choose which one I would recommend. However, there's another bit from the band that shines just as brightly, and may even be closer to what I understand you love from that Bolero part (which I also love so much), and that's on the song called Harmonium, from their first album: the ending instrumental bit from that one is just beautiful too. Also, Mike Oldfield has many such moments. If you haven't yet, you should get his first four albums, plus the very last one (return to Ommadawn). Particularly, the opening moments of side 2 of Hergest Ridge, the opening for Ommadawn, the last minutes of side 4 of Incantations, as well as many moments through Tubular Bells (particularly on the Finale part of side 1, plus several parts on about the first half of side 2). Oh yeah, and the Africa 1 section from the Amarok album.


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 08:16
King Crimson's music has always been quite sublime.


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 08:25
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Hergest Ridge by Mike Oldfield
Sommerabend by Novalis

yeah there is even an oboe part in Hergest Ridge which is wonderful


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 08:39
None of my favorite prog has oboe! Cry Oh, I forgot about Comus! Big smile

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 09:18
^ must be an evil oboe!


Posted By: Matte
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 09:38
Kayak - Nothingness  ( the whole song is beautiful but the second half is the best moment )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLm7fAGPl8s

Kayak - Bury the World ( the oboe part at 2:15 is magical )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMMgh7BdRU0


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 09:57
Three Friends by Gentle Giant, mightiest piece of choral and mellotron work ever grooved out.

the outro of Crime of the Century is mighty and the end of Asylum is also a mighty one by Supertramp

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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 11:19
Originally posted by progbaby progbaby wrote:

I can't get past this beautiful melody with the oboe from Bolero from Crimson's Lizard album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC4KoQW9axw&t=5m39s

Are you talking about the cornet in Bolero, or the oboe in the very quiet middle section of Lizard (not included in the YouTube link)? The first is very jazzy, the other is rather exotic (almost Middle-Eastern). There's a big difference in sound between the trumpet-like cornet (a brass instrument) and the mellow oboe (a woodwind/reed instrument). Sorry if this is overanalyzing, but I'm a musician!


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 13:27
I suppose its not really 'prog' but baroque psych folk.. whatever.. the lp i'm suggesting is 'Songs for the gentle man' by Bridget St John; it has lots of lovely oboe, flute, harpsicord and gorgeous string arrangements as well as beautiful acoustic guitar and Bridget's lovely voice.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 13:57
^You are a man with great taste! Wonderful album by Bridget. St. John.

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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 14:14
^ Thank you Steve! LikewiseSmileClap

Expanding the Oboe theme, I just put on Midnight Mushrumps by Gryphon.. that's got some lovely baroque moments which give me tingly spine sensations!


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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 14:18
Originally posted by Boojieboy Boojieboy wrote:

Originally posted by progbaby progbaby wrote:

I can't get past this beautiful melody with the oboe from Bolero from Crimson's Lizard album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC4KoQW9axw&t=5m39s

Are you talking about the cornet in Bolero, or the oboe in the very quiet middle section of Lizard (not included in the YouTube link)? The first is very jazzy, the other is rather exotic (almost Middle-Eastern). There's a big difference in sound between the trumpet-like cornet (a brass instrument) and the mellow oboe (a woodwind/reed instrument). Sorry if this is overanalyzing, but I'm a musician!


I'm also a musician and I'm 100% that it is in fact an oboe right at the timestamp. The cornet plays the jazzier parts. It has a slightly sharper sound.


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 14:19
Ocean Gypsy (Renaissance) and Turn of the Century (Yes)  are two the come to mind.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 15:02
Funural For a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding by Elton John

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 15:02
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

^ Thank you Steve! LikewiseSmileClap

Expanding the Oboe theme, I just put on Midnight Mushrumps by Gryphon.. that's got some lovely baroque moments which give me tingly spine sensations!
Yes, it's that baroque charm that draws us in! Well said.

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 15:44
There's a few stirring mellotron moments on Spring's self-titled album.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 16:52
The North Sea Radio Orchestra spoils us with choice for this kind of thing...



Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 18:45
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

There's a few stirring mellotron moments on Spring's self-titled album.

Good call.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 21:17
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


None of my favorite prog has oboe! Cry Oh, I forgot about Comus! Big smile


I think there's some oboe added to High Hopes on Gilmour's semi-acoustic DVD "On Concert".


Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: October 04 2017 at 21:54
Paul McCandless has spectacular Oboe moments in this album.



Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 04:37
RENAISSANCE - Kalynda (A Magical Isle)
MAGENTA - Pearl
Two, absolute beauties for blissfest.


Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 07:37


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 09:55
Seeing Renaissance mentioned, I'd say Mother Russia


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 09:59
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Seeing Renaissance mentioned, I'd say Mother Russia
Huh? "Red blood, white snow, he knows frozen rivers won't flow." I'm not sure know about this one, Luka. Pretty intense music and lyrics for such a baroque band.

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 10:14
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Seeing Renaissance mentioned, I'd say Mother Russia
Huh? "Red blood, white snow, he knows frozen rivers won't flow." I'm not sure know about this one, Luka. Pretty intense music and lyrics for such a baroque band.

specifically for me, it's the buildup after Annie's vocalise that is as beautiful as anything I've heard, mostly on piano but gathering steam with oboe and strings, leading right up to the repetitive flourish on harp.  I'm looking forward to seeing them with the chamber orchestra in just 3 weeks!


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 10:17
Strawbs have so many beautiful moments, but one of them is the whole of this song, in this definitive version.  Once you discover that it's both a love song and an ode to a 19th century lighthouse keeper's daughter named Grace, its beauty multiplies






Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 10:58
^yeah, a beautiful song Ken, with perhaps some of Cousins' best lyrics. He is an awesome songwriter that I feel is badly overlooked by the general public.

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 11:34
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^yeah, a beautiful song Ken, with perhaps some of Cousins' best lyrics. He is an awesome songwriter that I feel is badly overlooked by the general public.

Hi Steve
True, and not just in the general public but in the prog community as well, where some consider them too "mainstream".

here is another beauty, which manages to be lyrical with almost no lyrics




Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 12:50

Another winner Ken!  As for the Strawbs being too mainstream, well, they did go thru a glam phase! LOL


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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 13:19
Mr Fox 1970
Image result for Mr Fox lp
A bit folky vocal-wise I know but there's some really gorgeous arrangements and a rich folk/ baroque/ psych feel.. Nearly as dark as Comus in places.. the track 'Mr Fox' just gets me every time!
Image result for from the witchwood
My favourite Strawbs lp, the one which gives me the most goose-pimples!


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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 13:20
Image result for Mr Fox lp
Mr Fox from 1970



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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 13:22
^Yes, CC, two folk-barque classics! Witchwood and Mr. Fox. Damn good stuff! Thumbs Up

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 14:00
I love both Mr Fox albums.  This song is one of the saddest and sweetest I have ever known.  Don't believe me?  Listen to it






Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 14:38
Super lp and lovely lovely song!
Image result for mr fox gypsy

Also these:
Image result for bob pegg shipbuilder


Image result for bob pegg ancient maps


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 14:52
Originally posted by progbaby progbaby wrote:

I can't get past this beautiful melody with the oboe from Bolero from Crimson's Lizard album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC4KoQW9axw&t=5m39s

Please help recommend some other songs/tracks like that.  Also, the closing section of Gracious' Super Nova = simply wonderful as is their song "Heaven".

I'm hungry for more moments like that.  Please feed my fat belly.

the beauty in that moment is in my opinion not the melody but that they kind of improvise a fugue upon that theme


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 22:12
Of course there's so much beauty on Yes's music for me. But a few particularly memorable ones for me that may not often receive so much attention and that I might consider equivalent to that Bolero part are, on "The Revealing Science of God", an acoustic part that begins at 13 min. The intro to "That, that is" (called togetherness), and the intro to "Mind Drive". So... all Steve Howe acoustic moments...


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 05 2017 at 23:24
One does not have to look too hard to find many, beautiful moments in Opeth songs. They are there, in between the brutal clutter, which most folks don't enjoy.


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 08:45
Incantations Parts 1, 2, 3 and 4, beginning middle and end sections...nuff said...Thumbs Up


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 13:31
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Seeing Renaissance mentioned, I'd say Mother Russia
  Saw them play it live in a small room in California around '82.
  Absolutely Amazing!


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 20:48
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

One does not have to look too hard to find many, beautiful moments in Opeth songs. They are there, in between the brutal clutter, which most folks don't enjoy.


To name the most striking one for me, those guitars at the beginning of "The Drapery Falls"... just sublime. It took me a while to apreciate them, and in the live version from Lamentations, but it has become my favourite Opeth song, and the only one I like with growling from them.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 06 2017 at 23:59
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

One does not have to look too hard to find many, beautiful moments in Opeth songs. They are there, in between the brutal clutter, which most folks don't enjoy.


To name the most striking one for me, those guitars at the beginning of "The Drapery Falls"... just sublime. It took me a while to apreciate them, and in the live version from Lamentations, but it has become my favourite Opeth song, and the only one I like with growling from them.
Great choice


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: October 19 2017 at 21:13
Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Seeing Renaissance mentioned, I'd say Mother Russia
  Saw them play it live in a small room in California around '82.
  Absolutely Amazing!

They actually played in Calif in 82? Wow!  Thought they were very much restricted to the East Coast by then.


Posted By: bertolino
Date Posted: December 03 2017 at 08:07
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Harmonium was already mentioned for Histoires sans Paroles, and indeed that song is just one wonderful melody after another, and I couldn't choose which one I would recommend. However, there's another bit from the band that shines just as brightly, and may even be closer to what I understand you love from that Bolero part (which I also love so much), and that's on the song called Harmonium, from their first album: the ending instrumental bit from that one is just beautiful too. Also, Mike Oldfield has many such moments. If you haven't yet, you should get his first four albums, plus the very last one (return to Ommadawn). Particularly, the opening moments of side 2 of Hergest Ridge, the opening for Ommadawn, the last minutes of side 4 of Incantations, as well as many moments through Tubular Bells (particularly on the Finale part of side 1, plus several parts on about the first half of side 2). Oh yeah, and the Africa 1 section from the Amarok album.

As i try to find any place on PA to spread the news and that on this post Harmonium is talked about, here would be my pick for a non prog album : Serge Fiori after 25 years of retirement had made a comeback. Self titled  album of which "Seule" Laisse moi partir" and the double ending of "Si bien /  Epilogue" would qualify for his uncomparable vocalese in falsetto way, strings added for Epilogue. Complete review on the "I recommend" post...


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