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Topic: Do you try to hide the fact that you like prog?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Do you try to hide the fact that you like prog?
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 15:48
Do you ever try to hide the fact that you are a prog fan?



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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 16:19
No! Rather proud of it Wink


Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 16:29
When did the subject of personal taste (most of all in music) become a matter to be ashamed of ?

I'll tell you - I'm neither proud nor ashamed of my preferences, and just mention them when it somehow fits the conversation, but I confess of usually doing it with a tone of self-indulgence, like: "I'm a grown kid, you see, don't take me too seriously" Embarrassed


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 16:40
No!!
I talk about it incessantly. Mind you, a lot of my friends like it, too.


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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 16:41
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

No!!
I talk about it incessantly. Mind you, a lot of my friends like it, too. (That f*****g captcha needs to die!)


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 16:55
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

When did the subject of personal taste (most of all in music) become a matter to be ashamed of ?

I'll tell you - I'm neither proud nor ashamed of my preferences, and just mention them when it somehow fits the conversation, but I confess of usually doing it with a tone of self-indulgence, like: "I'm a grown kid, you see, don't take me too seriously" Embarrassed

I don't know. Is the average non prog fan aware that prog is no longer a dirty word? I think there's still a lot of prejudice about our beloved genre(not by us of course but just in general). 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 16:57
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

No!!
I talk about it incessantly. Mind you, a lot of my friends like it, too. (That f*****g captcha needs to die!)

I'm getting better at predicting when it comes around again. After about five posts I try to remember to copy what I type then when the captcha happens I'm ready for it. ;)


Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 16:59
Day 47:

The anti-prog purges have only intensified. Armed guards on every street. Mobs moving from building to building, searching for the slightest hint that their occupants enjoy prog. They found a copy of In The Wake of Poseidon in Magnum Vaeltaja's building down the street. I'll never forget the screams. We've been smuggling Camel freaks out at night, with falsified passports bearing allegiance to Avril Lavigne, and hiding them under the floorboards by day. We all know the penalties for such treason, the ropes and fires that await us. I've heard rumors that Guldbamsen is still alive somewhere in the Outer Reaches, rallying a resistance, but that stubborn b*****d is a long way from here. The rest of the old crew had the mercy of going out in the first wave; Micky's head is still displayed on the border wall of The Dead Zone. Pink Floyd was just added to The Prohibited; a wave of innocent stoners were carried off in the following days, the longest I can remember. The children at schools are subjected to testing; any who can identify when a song changes time signature is immediately escorted to the Reeducation Zone. None have yet returned, but one can distinctly hear the clanging of metal, in 4/4 of course, emanating from within. I catch myself humming Yours Is No Disgrace on occasion; such mistakes can be fatal. And all of this, because we brave, foolish few dared to share our musical preferences. May God help us all. 


All facetiousness aside, I doubt there's anybody left in the world who'd genuinely scorn a person for liking prog, or practically any genre. The ones perceived as lowbrow (country, dubstep, boyband pop) will still get you some flack perhaps, but most of the people that would hate prog also aren't aware it exists.




Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 17:11
LOL

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 17:40
Ok, fine. The next time you see a beautiful woman tell her you like prog and that you wear a cape while playing air keyboards and see what happens. ;)


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 18:22
I don't hide it, but I do not advertise it. As a music lover, I love a lot of genres, styles, kinds of music. Not very many people asks about prog, or seem to know about it. If I tell them I like Pink Floyd, Rush, or other well known prog bands, they seem to assume I like classic rock, and apparently, they don't to have a clue what prog is. If we have a conversation about music, I explain what prog is, and most of the time they will answer with "I had no idea" or a similar statement.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 18:26
^That's surprising to hear considering how widespread the term "prog" seems to be these days. Maybe these people you talk to aren't much into music in general? I can't imagine many people who are big into music(even if they aren't prog heads)not at least knowing what prog is these days. 


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 19:38
No.  And when I tell people who've never heard of it I use it as an opportunity to try and bring another pair of ears to our side of the street LOL


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 20:48
No. I rub it in.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 30 2017 at 21:50
Never!


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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 00:55
Not at all and I never did even when it was criticised in the late 70s. I make my prog and classic rock love clear to all - including the students I teach!

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 01:40
No way. Everyone I know, family included, knows I listen to Prog with a capital P. It's not my fault if they don't know it's Prog, though. Haha!

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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 03:04
Umm...no? why would you hide it? 

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 04:05
No, not at all.

I would be more embarassed if I liked the kind of horsesh*t that most other people seem to enjoy.

Sometimes when asked what music I like, I do just say "Anything that appeals to my ears at the time" Not out of embarassment, but because I can't be bothered to explain - once AGAIN - what prog rock is, or at least what I think it is.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 04:20
No. Why should I?

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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 04:24
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, fine. The next time you see a beautiful woman tell her you like prog and that you wear a cape while playing air keyboards and see what happens. ;)

I'll add that I also play Dungeons & Dragons. Score!


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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 04:24
Originally posted by mechanicalflattery mechanicalflattery wrote:

Day 47:

The anti-prog purges have only intensified. Armed guards on every street. Mobs moving from building to building, searching for the slightest hint that their occupants enjoy prog. They found a copy of In The Wake of Poseidon in Magnum Vaeltaja's building down the street. I'll never forget the screams. We've been smuggling Camel freaks out at night, with falsified passports bearing allegiance to Avril Lavigne, and hiding them under the floorboards by day. We all know the penalties for such treason, the ropes and fires that await us. I've heard rumors that Guldbamsen is still alive somewhere in the Outer Reaches, rallying a resistance, but that stubborn b*****d is a long way from here. The rest of the old crew had the mercy of going out in the first wave; Micky's head is still displayed on the border wall of The Dead Zone. Pink Floyd was just added to The Prohibited; a wave of innocent stoners were carried off in the following days, the longest I can remember. The children at schools are subjected to testing; any who can identify when a song changes time signature is immediately escorted to the Reeducation Zone. None have yet returned, but one can distinctly hear the clanging of metal, in 4/4 of course, emanating from within. I catch myself humming Yours Is No Disgrace on occasion; such mistakes can be fatal. And all of this, because we brave, foolish few dared to share our musical preferences. May God help us all. 
I would listen to that concept album... as long as it's not just in 4/4 Tongue


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 04:54
I don't understand where the OP is coming from but then again I have never felt embarrassed by the music I listen to. 
Plus, nobody and I literally mean NOBODY knows what prog is. Sure maybe amongst folks over a certain age but young peeps under 40? They have no idea what prog is and furthermore have no clue about the supposed dorky-dungeons&dragons-lordoftherings-mythology that follows suite (which again is a falsified notion of prog. I certainly don't listen to much of that stuff and I dig my prog). 
I've even had long conversations with diehard music fans my age (35) who are well versed in everything from jazz and psych to disco and hardcore and very very few of them have heard about prog. They know Floyd and Crimson but don't necessarily put them in the same bag. 

Some prog fans tend to dramaqueen their favourite form of music into martyrdom. 
"The entire music world has conspired against the stupendous life-altering form of music called prog rock, so I will hide away the beauty from their ears and secretly laugh behind their backs in sheer awe-inspiring 'I-know-something-you-don't-know' "
Maybe it is just time we faced up to reality: prog rock is a footnote in rock history. It is a brilliant one for my tastes but it is still just that. Go find a hundred different people and ask them about prog. I promise you you'll see a bunch of huh-faces staring back at you.
 


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 04:56
Oh and that post made my day JimLOL

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 05:11
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^That's surprising to hear considering how widespread the term "prog" seems to be these days. Maybe these people you talk to aren't much into music in general? I can't imagine many people who are big into music(even if they aren't prog heads)not at least knowing what prog is these days. 
Maybe. I guess I don't run into many progheads these days. I should add that most people I talk to, don't reject the idea of prog, it is just that they haven't been exposed to the concept.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 07:51
Absolutely not!


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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 08:13
I don't hide anything but I must admit I do get a few blank looks from the younger generation when I mention that I love  Jethro Tull

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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 08:22
^ I wouldn't know the band either if I wasn't into Prog, I discovered them on PA's top albums list.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 08:32
[I don't understand where the OP is coming from but then again I have never felt embarrassed by the music I listen to. ]


My inspiration for starting this thread is reading several articles online about prog(mostly about the recent David Weigel book)where the person writing the article(who probably doesn't know much about the genre)seems to think there's still a stigma attached to liking prog which got me to think that maybe there still is a stigma attached to it so I was wondering if anyone else felt that way and that they somehow had to hide the fact that they like it. Let's face it, it's only recently that the R&R Hall of Fame has started to warm up to prog and many critics still don't like it and they are(or at least were) able to let others know that it's not cool. I would like to think that has started to change but I'm not sure. In my next poll maybe I'll ask if you still think prog is an "underground" genre.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 08:35
Originally posted by digdug digdug wrote:

I don't hide anything but I must admit I do get a few blank looks from the younger generation when I mention that I love  Jethro Tull

I met some people in their 20's at a prog festival earlier in the year(yes their are prog fans that young)and they told me the band that got them into the prog genre was Jethro Tull. 


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 10:30
no

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Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 19:30
If people can't appreciate good music, that's their problem...or business. 

My wife says prog gives her a headache. It's along the lines of "too many notes". 

I always tell people, if the conversation gets around to it I'm a huge prog fan. 


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 19:33
Always

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Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 19:37
Originally posted by mechanicalflattery mechanicalflattery wrote:

None have yet returned, but one can distinctly hear the clanging of metal, in 4/4 of course, emanating from within. I catch myself humming Yours Is No Disgrace on occasion; such mistakes can be fatal. And all of this, because we brave, foolish few dared to share our musical preferences. May God help us all. 
Yeah, that's the way I remember it, too. 


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 19:42
He's right you know. If you tell the wrong people you might wind up in music jail. I hear they have one at the Rock n Roll hall of fame right next to the Yes exhibit. Smile


Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 20:44
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

[I don't understand where the OP is coming from but then again I have never felt embarrassed by the music I listen to. ]


My inspiration for starting this thread is reading several articles online about prog(mostly about the recent David Weigel book)where the person writing the article(who probably doesn't know much about the genre)seems to think there's still a stigma attached to liking prog which got me to think that maybe there still is a stigma attached to it so I was wondering if anyone else felt that way and that they somehow had to hide the fact that they like it. Let's face it, it's only recently that the R&R Hall of Fame has started to warm up to prog and many critics still don't like it and they are(or at least were) able to let others know that it's not cool. I would like to think that has started to change but I'm not sure. In my next poll maybe I'll ask if you still think prog is an "underground" genre.


I think prog is just an easy target for music journalists. There's a lot of silliness and seriousness, so it's easy to twist things around, plus there's a heartwarming tale about the underdogs (punk) overthrowing the elite prog rock noble class.


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 21:41
^ You know I never thought of it that way before but it's possible that the music critics are somehow labeling(and identifying with) punks as being underdogs and see prog musicians as elitists(musicians who went to art school or have more money or whatever). Interesting point. I also always thought that many journalists were jealous of prog because they never had the discipline to be musicians themselves and liked punk because it was music they could play if they wanted to. 


Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 22:07
I think it's also that prog's sort of the awkward middle child of music... it's too highbrow for the sex, drugs and rock and roll purist, and too lowbrow to fit in with nice, academic classical or jazz music. It's very easy to pick an extreme and attack it from either side.


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: October 31 2017 at 23:08
I don't hide it, but since I said that I liked ELP, one of my friends calls me John Lennon.


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 00:19
Hide that thing I like that 99% of people I encounter don't even know exists?

Makes perfect sense.

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Posted By: Frankh
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 03:48
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^ You know I never thought of it that way before but it's possible that the music critics are somehow labeling(and identifying with) punks as being underdogs and see prog musicians as elitists(musicians who went to art school or have more money or whatever). Interesting point. I also always thought that many journalists were jealous of prog because they never had the discipline to be musicians themselves and liked punk because it was music they could play if they wanted to. 


And it could be both of these things. Some combination thereof, of all of the above.

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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 04:13
The joy of success was hearing my son playing Roundabout (Yes) and I Turned You Down (Riverside) on his bass and arguing with his friends that Marillion are better than Genesis.

One more resistance fighter for the cause.


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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 06:04
The majority of peeps just like music for dancing to and at parties etc. The background tosh that is mainstream pop-music - or in the modern-era is pumped into their brains via the X-Factor! I am sometimes called a music-snob by my friends who still listen to (seventies pop mostly) their fairly narrow musical experience of youth.
No 1 son is into - big-band music and Buble and sinatra - so I'm assuming the alleles that made his brain come from his mums genome - whereas No 2 son loves Opeth / Steve Wilson / Pain of salvation / Riverside and quite a lot of my newer CD's (he's not too keen on older prog - but I think he may grow into that!) so he got my Alleles then.


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 08:13
Photos of my office - you decide Smile






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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 08:36
I feel great shame. My love for Prog has made me a pariah in my own home.
The shame of it all!!!
And I blame: Jon Anderson, Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Rick Wakeman, Bill Bruford, Peter Gabriel, Greg Lake, Keith Emerson, Robert Fripp, Ian Anderson, Geddy Lee, Roger Waters, Tony Banks and Phil Collins.


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 12:31
I look at it like " If they don't get it, that's on them, not me"
I find a lot of casual music fan tend to take the path of least resistance.
That's why God invented Justin Beiber!


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 13:56
The best rock music ever made should be spread around

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 15:25
No, but I get the feeling that inside, people are laughing at me. My two kids laugh out loud.

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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 15:42
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

No, but I get the feeling that inside, people are laughing at me. My two kids laugh out loud.


In 50 years they will see how stupid they were

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 01 2017 at 15:48
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

No, but I get the feeling that inside, people are laughing at me. My two kids laugh out loud.

LOL


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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 15:29
I go out of my way to play prog to everyone. I play magma loud in the office. I even got everyone singing banco lol

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 17:14
Even my wife doesn't know. I keep the prog CDs in a hiding place under the floorboards and only bring them out when I know she'll be out of the house for several hours. 

If anyone found out I'd have to kill myself.


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Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 18:45
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I think it's also that prog's sort of the awkward middle child of music... it's too highbrow for the sex, drugs and rock and roll purist, and too lowbrow to fit in with nice, academic classical or jazz music. It's very easy to pick an extreme and attack it from either side.
That's probably the closest description to why I like it so much. 

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 02 2017 at 18:56
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

I go out of my way to play prog to everyone. I play magma loud in the office. I even got everyone singing banco lol

Let me guess. You get them singing that two minute long song that's on one of their mid seventies albums(I forget the name of the song). Smile


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 01:38
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

I go out of my way to play prog to everyone. I play magma loud in the office. I even got everyone singing banco lol


Let me guess. You get them singing that two minute long song that's on one of their mid seventies albums(I forget the name of the song). Smile


It was canto di primavera. I printed the lyrics for them lol

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 02:34
Only very rarely will I tell others specifically that I like prog, and that's when I assume the person I'm talking to actually knows what it is, like online, in record stores or at concerts, but otherwise I'd like to stick to 'obscure music', 'weird sh*t' or 'you wouldn't know any of it', because I've mostly given up hope that another adult will benefit from being from hearing a long monologue about some niche genre. When I have visitors I'll occasionally play some prog but I'll primarily look for something that'll sort of fit the mood and/or their tastes... It's not really shame, it's just you generally just don't suddenly get people into prog, and also that, contrary to a bunch of other more obscure genres, people can easily gradually introduce themselves to prog to hearing loads of succesful bands with varying degrees of proggyness in classic rock, metal or alt rock. On the contrary I have tried to introduce some friends to ambient, ragas, neo-psych, non-pop punk and more obscure corners of techno and hip hop because those often require a bit of a leap to check out in the first place.

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Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 07:08
Before I retired, I'd listen to music on a small stereo in my office.  Often that was prog, even on occasion Art Zoyd or Magma, who had the interesting side effect of making some people reluctant to come in.  Sometimes I'd listen to 20th Century classical or post-bop jazz.  I also made no secret of the fact that I prefer non-US movies, especially French movies, and rotated framed posters, lobby cards and even one sheets for different French movies on my office walls.  I made no secret of my political views, hanging posters for causes and candidates on my office door.  I wore ties with images from various surrealist painters.  I was open about my atheism and my excessively morbid sense of humor.  I had an 18 inch tall statue of the Xenomorph from Alien (with working inner jaws) on my desk (one of my nicknames was "The Alien").  "I yam what I yam and tha's all what I yam." to quote that great philosopher Popeye the Sailor Man.  Why would I worry about loving prog?


Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 09:04
No.  I lived enough shame through my early days of comic book collecting.


Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 18:07
No, i don't hide it. Why hide something you love? Leaving music aside, I adore modern eurogames as well (Puerto Rico, Caylus, Tzolkin, Agricola, etc.) and a lot of other weird things =P

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Posted By: peregrino
Date Posted: November 03 2017 at 18:11
I've gotten laid thanks to prog bands, believe it or not!
But yeah, prog is nothing to be ashamed of. Socks and sandals, on the other hand...


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 13:14
No.  I even foist my love for prog onto others, such as my dear wife (she calls it "guy music").

Here, she is obviously hating our meeting with Yes backstage (Chicago, 30th Anniversary show).




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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: November 04 2017 at 13:23
Originally posted by peregrino peregrino wrote:

But yeah, prog is nothing to be ashamed of. Socks and sandals, on the other hand...


They go very well together, thk u Cool   (and very proggy, imo) LOL




Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 02:31
Not at all! Prog and proud!

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 03:12
Never shamed any music I love.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 07:19
Why would anyone have to hide liking prog? It has the beautiful quality of hiding itself. Either you understand it and like or others think it sounds like noise.

Now hiding the most extreme forms of metal and other caustic forms of music i could understand


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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 07:54
It´s still not very cool to like prog in certain music listeners groups. Also, in the end of seventies and begin of eighties no-one in the record companies and music magazines didn´t want to hear anything about prog. They think it was so out of date that time.


Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 08:36
Hide from who?

My circle is very narrow. my wife and my daughter.

My wife dont care much about prog. 
and my daughter prefer cartoon tunes.  If there would be cartoon with prog music, she would like it.




Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 04 2018 at 09:57
Jethro`s "Too Old to R´N`R" cover.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 00:13
hide it? most people don't even know what it is. 


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 00:21
Never. But to the ‘regular folk’ if you will ; trying to explain it is like flogging a dead horse. I think they’re missing out.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 01:55
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

It´s still not very cool to like prog in certain music listeners groups. Also, in the end of seventies and begin of eighties no-one in the record companies and music magazines didn´t want to hear anything about prog. They think it was so out of date that time.

In the UK this carried on throughout the eighties and into the nineties. Saying you liked prog wild get you looked at with pitying scorn at best, and in certain 'hip' circles it would have been the next thing to admitting you were into necrophilia. Actually in some of those circles it may have been viewed as worse

And this is a worldview that is still held by many fiftysomething and sixtysomething British trendies - greying now but still possessed of their youthful certainties - for whom “I hate prog” is one of the eternal verities.

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 02:08
Yes, it is my most well-guarded secret.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 02:13
Only when I think the person won't know what the hell I'm going on about.   Still, the reaction is often something like, "Oh, with the flutes, am I right?"



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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 02:41
^ No, David, it’s. “ Oh, what are these bands like Nektar and Caravan you listen to - are you on drugs “ ??   
.........stupid fools............ (the random folks, not you, buddy)


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 02:46
^ If you get as far as obscure band names you're way ahead of the game -



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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 02:53
^ You’re awesome, don’t forget that !!!
Still, these days, I can’t believe how difficult it is in explaining what Prog-Rock is actually about .....?


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 03:04
Rock culture is not what it used to be.  I mean Tull and Yes and ELP were popular, even chart-topping.  A grand and glorious time.



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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 03:05
One of my friends said to me "I need to take drugs if will ever understand this". Recommend him Union live.


Posted By: sukmytoe
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 04:25
Nope, I'm proud of the fact that I think I'm more intelligent than the millions of modern pop music lovers out there demonstrated by the fact that my ears prefer stimulation to brain melting cr@p. LOL


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 04:58
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

It´s still not very cool to like prog in certain music listeners groups. Also, in the end of seventies and begin of eighties no-one in the record companies and music magazines didn´t want to hear anything about prog. They think it was so out of date that time.

In the UK this carried on throughout the eighties and into the nineties. Saying you liked prog wild get you looked at with pitying scorn at best, and in certain 'hip' circles it would have been the next thing to admitting you were into necrophilia. Actually in some of those circles it may have been viewed as worse

And this is a worldview that is still held by many fiftysomething and sixtysomething British trendies - greying now but still possessed of their youthful certainties - for whom “I hate prog” is one of the eternal verities.
In Finland prog achieved a little popularity again already in the end of eighties. Wigwam had reunion and got quite much people in it´s gigs. But I think the most popular times of prog here in Finland was in the end of nineties and begin of 2000. You know prog really wasn´t that big thing in Finland at seventies as it was in UK.


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 05:13
I tried to hide the fact that I loved Saturday Night Fever... but I can't anymore.


Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 05:17
So what's classic rock anyway? Bands like Simon And Garfunkel, ACDC, America and Black Sabbath right? How do you play ii a classic rock style?

People only think they know what they are talking about if they parrot stuff they read and hear (media spin). Prog is well off the radar of the public at large.


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 06:17
I don´t hide anything in music. I don´t understand guilty pleasure term at all. I like what I like.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 06:44
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

But I think the most popular times of prog here in Finland was in the end of nineties and begin of 2000. You know prog really wasn´t that big thing in Finland at seventies as it was in UK.

That's interesting to learn! I had figured that with all the great seventies bands from Finland the progressive thing must have been pretty big there. Maybe more of a big cult?


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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 08:05
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

But I think the most popular times of prog here in Finland was in the end of nineties and begin of 2000. You know prog really wasn´t that big thing in Finland at seventies as it was in UK.

That's interesting to learn! I had figured that with all the great seventies bands from Finland the progressive thing must have been pretty big there. Maybe more of a big cult?
Well, I think Wigwam and Tasavallan Presidentti have a little, but very excited fanbase. Others really haven´t got fans and also gigs, so that´s was the reason, why many bands just made one album. I think for example Haikara´s Vesa Lattunen would have creativity a lot more than just those five albums they made, but here just wasn´t a big interest to Haikara. The main reason why Iso Lintu is so different than those two first albums is that they try to make it more commercial (but failed). Lattunen just had to do something else that compose great music for his living. Also, I think that will give you picture how famous prog was seventies here, that only Wigwam got one gold album, from "Nuclear Nightclub". Also I think Wigwam would have ended earlier if they hadn´t got that Virgin deal and gigs from UK and other European countries.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 08:30
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

It´s still not very cool to like prog in certain music listeners groups. Also, in the end of seventies and begin of eighties no-one in the record companies and music magazines didn´t want to hear anything about prog. They think it was so out of date that time.
 
In the UK this carried on throughout the eighties and into the nineties. Saying you liked prog wild get you looked at with pitying scorn at best, and in certain 'hip' circles it would have been the next thing to admitting you were into necrophilia. Actually in some of those circles it may have been viewed as worse  

And this is a worldview that is still held by many fiftysomething and sixtysomething British trendies - greying now but still possessed of their youthful certainties - for whom “I hate prog” is one of the eternal verities.
In Finland prog achieved a little popularity again already in the end of eighties. Wigwam had reunion and got quite much people in it´s gigs. But I think the most popular times of prog here in Finland was in the end of nineties and begin of 2000. You know prog really wasn´t that big thing in Finland at seventies as it was in UK.

This alway baffled me: average people with no musical taste, sense, or skill insisting stuff like Yes, Genesis, etc is "gay music" (I've actually had people tell me this). Meanwhile they don't bother to digest anything outside of pop/country/top 40 stuff.

Take it with a grain of salt. I blast people over how sh*t bands are today compared to the amazing 1970's lol.


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 13:19
Once upon a time, you’d get bashed if you said you like Devo or Kajagoogoo.
If you mentioned Van der Graaf Generator or Hawkwind, you’d just get weird looks.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 13:23
What's prog?

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 14:43
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

What's prog?

I have no idea. I think it's a made up word.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 14:49
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

What's prog?

I think they're these things:


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 16:03
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

But I think the most popular times of prog here in Finland was in the end of nineties and begin of 2000. You know prog really wasn´t that big thing in Finland at seventies as it was in UK.

That's interesting to learn! I had figured that with all the great seventies bands from Finland the progressive thing must have been pretty big there. Maybe more of a big cult?
Well, I think Wigwam and Tasavallan Presidentti have a little, but very excited fanbase. Others really haven´t got fans and also gigs, so that´s was the reason, why many bands just made one album. I think for example Haikara´s Vesa Lattunen would have creativity a lot more than just those five albums they made, but here just wasn´t a big interest to Haikara. The main reason why Iso Lintu is so different than those two first albums is that they try to make it more commercial (but failed). Lattunen just had to do something else that compose great music for his living. Also, I think that will give you picture how famous prog was seventies here, that only Wigwam got one gold album, from "Nuclear Nightclub". Also I think Wigwam would have ended earlier if they hadn´t got that Virgin deal and gigs from UK and other European countries.
Such a shame, there were so many great talents and it seems they got little appreciation in their home country. Still I am thankful for the records we got - but it's tantalising to think there may have been many more if the artists had a little more commercial success Ouch.  

Nuclear Nightclub is not a favourite of mine at all. I guess I can see why it was popular, but without Pohjola and Gustavson it wasn't the same.

Thanks for sharing.


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 16:09
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Once upon a time, you’d get bashed if you said you like Devo or Kajagoogoo.
If you mentioned Van der Graaf Generator or Hawkwind, you’d just get weird looks.
As the curious eavesdropper decried, "What have you got against Devo, fella?"

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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 16:12
I almost never mention the word 'prog' irl. People who know me well would just think, "oh here he goes again with one of his silly obsessions to get attention" if I start going around using that word, I know it. A lot of them know I like Yes, and Genesis, and Kiss, and Wishbone Ash, and T Rex, and Steely Dan, and Humble Pie, but I don't label it as anything. Those are just artists that people know I like to listen to. 


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 17:51
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Once upon a time, you’d get bashed if you said you like Devo or Kajagoogoo.
If you mentioned Van der Graaf Generator or Hawkwind, you’d just get weird looks.
As the curious eavesdropper decried, "What have you got against Devo, fella?"
Indeed !! I can understand it with Kaja, but Devo ?? Anyone who doesn’t like Devo should get bashed


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 17:52
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

I tried to hide the fact that I loved Saturday Night Fever... but I can't anymore.

It is a masterpiece isn't it



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 18:45
How does this thread still get postings?
Oh, it just got one more.


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 22:13
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:


This alway baffled me: average people with no musical taste, sense, or skill insisting stuff like Yes, Genesis, etc is "gay music" (I've actually had people tell me this). Meanwhile they don't bother to digest anything outside of pop/country/top 40 stuff.

Take it with a grain of salt. I blast people over how sh*t bands are today compared to the amazing 1970's lol.
Smile. Really funny. Well maybe they´ve seen Gabriel performing in the seventies and think "he must be gay". Never anybody said to me why you listened that gay music. Also, today´s Finland no problem to say to be a proglistener, it´s just that most don´t understand what it is.

Some of my friends who know what prog is just say they just don´t understand it. I think it´s quite same me with hip hop, it´s just don´t hit me.


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 07 2018 at 22:20
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Such a shame, there were so many great talents and it seems they got little appreciation in their home country. Still I am thankful for the records we got - but it's tantalising to think there may have been many more if the artists had a little more commercial success Ouch.  

Nuclear Nightclub is not a favourite of mine at all. I guess I can see why it was popular, but without Pohjola and Gustavson it wasn't the same.

Thanks for sharing.
Fairyport is my favourite, but "Freddie Are You Ready" was the first Wigwam piece that really hit me. First Wigwam album I bought was Being and it really took a while when I understand how genius album it is. Can you imagine they have filmed that classic "Österberg-Pohjola-Gustavson" playing in Finnish television, but cleared up all the films, just because the film was so expensive that time? Now we don´t have any film about that Wigwam lineup. I am really glad, there still exists that one piece from seventies Haikara.


Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: February 11 2018 at 03:35
No. I try to promote prog to some degree. Most people I come across don't know what it is when I bring it up in conversation. 

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 11 2018 at 08:52
hide? from who pray tell.... god I love these adolescent poll questions.  No wonder the mama's basement sterotype of prog fan persists...

a more interesting question for this forum would be

do you try to hide the fact you dislike prog 


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