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Rock Culture's Last Gasp

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Topic: Rock Culture's Last Gasp
Posted By: Atavachron
Subject: Rock Culture's Last Gasp
Date Posted: November 24 2017 at 02:07
As the time of rock 'n roll and the culture it supported comes to a close ~ the whole era of albums, favorite players, thoughtful & innovative record covers, moments in songs that made us utter 'Right here, listen, this part is great...', the reverence had for all things rock fades into history ~ do we grieve our losses and bid farewell to heroes who mastered their instruments and voices in an all-too-human way?

Icons of music are dying with increasing frequency and even the act of listening to an 'album' is old-school; nostalgia tours by geriatric rock 'n roll conquerors are everywhere; and "Keep the memory alive" is Billy Joel's catchphrase.   Does the sparse, aging rock community fade quietly into legend or does it hold tight, fight back, and hang on for rock's unlikely but inevitable comeback?   Or does it even matter that rock in all its forms and the intentional, focused act of listening to it is coming to a close?




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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 24 2017 at 05:13
I think it's because the record industries and media are not creating new legends like before. The current Rock scene is living just fine without them though: there are plenty of Rock concerts and festivals, albums are still being sold and heard and there are new personalities (that are only known by those who follow the genre). Honestly, I think it's an exciting time for the genre since there are less inflated egos, sell-outs and meddling record labels.


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 24 2017 at 05:24
Yeah, what's gone is the cultural hegemony of rock music - now it's more or less a niche interest, and adventurous rock music a niche within a niche. But just as the internet has contributed to this by enabling cultural fragmentation, it also means everyone inside the mini-niches can connect. 

I reckon there are as many young musicians making progressive and experimental music of various kinds, certainly not all 'rock', as there ever were. Maybe more. They will never go large, they are doing it because it's what they want to do, the music they enjoy playing. Quite a healthy situation IMO.


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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: November 26 2017 at 04:03
Yep, reunion tours and repackaged megaboxsets and tribute bands are all signs that the old cricketers are leaving the crease.

The next generation, the Alphas, will be into entirely new things, and some of that will be music.

Of course the old rock music styles will still be around - just imagine a bunch of old jazz fans in the 1950s saying "well, the old days are over and the kids are into this newfangled rock and roll rubbish, jazz is finished". - but of course jazz wasn't finished.
The same will apply to rock music. Our 70s heroes are the equivalent of their 20s heroes.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 26 2017 at 16:37
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

I reckon there are as many young musicians making progressive and experimental music of various kinds, certainly not all 'rock', as there ever were. Maybe more. They will never go large, they are doing it because it's what they want to do, the music they enjoy playing. Quite a healthy situation IMO.

Reasonable point.



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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 26 2017 at 16:41
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

- just imagine a bunch of old jazz fans in the 1950s saying "well, the old days are over and the kids are into this newfangled rock and roll rubbish, jazz is finished". - but of course jazz wasn't finished.
The same will apply to rock music. Our 70s heroes are the equivalent of their 20s heroes.

It is likely true that, much like jazz, rock will never truly die.   One could say Hip hop took the place of rock 'n roll's accessibility and untrained musicians, the spirit of youth and street culture.   I guess as America changes so does its popular music and music cultures.



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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy



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