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Topic: Ars Nova
Posted By: richardh
Subject: Ars Nova
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 04:25

Japansese trio (2 girls and a guy) that sound more like ELP than ELP do (or did)! There is a video clip on their website from a recent UK gig.Quite impressive stuff!

http://arsnova.chocot.net/mov/index.html - http://arsnova.chocot.net/mov/index.html

 




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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 13:02
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

that sound more like ELP than ELP do (or did)!

Bit your tongue, Richard!!



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THIS IS ELP


Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 13:50
Their keyboardist is a bit of hot babe by the look of her, the same cannot be said of KE I'm afraid.

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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.


Posted By: moonchild
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 13:52
Which CD should I get by Ars Nova?

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In the Wake of Poseidon


Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 14:19

Ars Nova my Ars!



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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.


Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 14:31

Originally posted by moonchild moonchild wrote:

Which CD should I get by Ars Nova?

 

IMHO, "The Goddess of Darkness" and "Android Domina", both excellent!

 



Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 15:57

I've got "The Goddess of Darkness" but I don't like it.  Its so ELP sounding, its like listening to a bad tribute band.  I think I have a problem with the whole tribute band idea...

However, someone recently mentioned that their new album, Biogenesis Project, maybe a better listen.



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THIS IS ELP


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 16:24
'Fear and Anxiety' is the one I like most by them.Not so sure about 'Android Domina' which is a little weak sounding to my ears.There's also an excellent tribute album called 'Keyboards Triangle' where they and another Japansese prog band Gerard do some excellent covers of ELP,Wakeman,Banco and PFM tracks.Try the Musea label if you are looking to purchase any of their stuff.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 16:26
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

that sound more like ELP than ELP do (or did)!

Bit your tongue, Richard!!

 

There isn't much of my tongue left to bite after some of my other recent contributions!



Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 18:25

Quote I've got "The Goddess of Darkness" but I don't like it.  Its so ELP sounding, its like listening to a bad tribute band.

Plus a collage of Greg Lake fotos. Don't I know you from another forum?



Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 18:26

Quote Which CD should I get by Ars Nova?

Either Across The World (an excellent live album) or Book Of The Dead, or even Transi (their 2nd). All make fine intros to the newbie.

 



Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 18:30

http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=519 - http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews.php?op=showcontent&a mp;id=519

http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=789 - http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews.php?op=showcontent&a mp;id=789



Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 04 2004 at 22:19
Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Quote I've got "The Goddess of Darkness" but I don't like it.  Its so ELP sounding, its like listening to a bad tribute band.

Plus a collage of Greg Lake fotos. Don't I know you from another forum?

Now thats possible.. but I love the Greg Lake signature... it seems to shout out that I'm female... doesn't it?



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THIS IS ELP


Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 05:28
There's a song available for download here: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=28 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=28


Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 14:05

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

'Fear and Anxiety' is the one I like most by them.Not so sure about 'Android Domina' which is a little weak sounding to my ears.There's also an excellent tribute album called 'Keyboards Triangle' where they and another Japansese prog band Gerard do some excellent covers of ELP,Wakeman,Banco and PFM tracks.Try the Musea label if you are looking to purchase any of their stuff.

 

I have "Keyboards Triangle", very nice! But I remember the seller's words when I went to buy another cover band cd (Rael, a Genesis cover band): "If you like Genesis, buy the original Genesis stuff" . However, I like covers very much when they are well done.

 



Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 18:05

Arsnova has evolved beyond simply being an ELP-inspired group. Remember, ELP and The Nice weren't the only bands doing this sort of thing back in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Le Orme (Italy) formed in 1967, and around that same time, Dutch keyboard player Rick van der Linden was doing interpretations of classical music in a rock & roll format with his band Ekseption (incorporating brass arrangements, too) that were even more (arguably) faithful-sounding than the Nice. Just because a band's line-up is keyboards/bass guitar/drums-percussion doesn't automatically mean they should be dropped and all attention should be focused on Keith Emerson and Rick Wakeman. Only a close-minded person would think this way.

Also, has anyone ever heard of the band, Bayon? A multi-ethnic quartet of German, Cuban and Vietnamese musicians, this group began recording material in 1970 that fused each player's indigenous musical influences along with (of course) classical and rock. In a way, what they were doing was even more progressive than Yes, ELP, and King Crimson, at the time. And please don't bring up Pink Floyd (the least progressive of the famous 70s groups).

 



Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 21:22

Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Just because a band's line-up is keyboards/bass guitar/drums-percussion doesn't automatically mean they should be dropped and all attention should be focused on Keith Emerson and Rick Wakeman. Only a close-minded person would think this way.

Why is it that if someone doesn't agree with you.. that makes them close-minded.

Actually my problem with Arsnova has nothing to do with how Keith Emerson they sound... hey the bassist plays a lot like Greg also... Its more that there is a lack of life in the music.  Its like having a great technical player.. but with less character in the music. I don't hear the flow, I don't hear alot of improv..and its somewhat stale.  And of course, they're missing the best instrument in ELP... Greg's voice.

But thats just what I feel when I listen to them...I don't think that makes me close minded.  I also don't like IQ at all...



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THIS IS ELP


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 06 2004 at 01:49

It is allowed to not like bands that others like! I also take the view that you can be as 'close minded' about music as you like.We all only have a limited supply of cash to spend on music and so it is neccessary to make judgements on everything we hear,and negative opinions should NEVER HAVE TO BE JUSTIFIED ,only EXPLAINED.

BTW I like IQ! (but certain members of this forum know this already!)

 




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