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Topic: The Trespass into a Union Island
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: The Trespass into a Union Island
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:21
I messed up so i try again

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:42
Islands
Trespass
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Union

Gotta ask: what made you pick that Yes album? It is after all pitted up against two albums from the classc era.

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:50
Didn't have to think about this one - Trespass.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:54
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Islands
Trespass
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Union

Gotta ask: what made you pick that Yes album? It is after all pitted up against two albums from the classc era.
Three albums i picjed out for my anual library album listen session.

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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 10:01
The Knife


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 10:27
SHOOOOOOOCK TO THE SYSTEM!!

Union. No, I'm not trolling.


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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 11:18
Islands. Trespass is almost as great. Union is ok.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 12:07
None today.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 12:16
Trespass, then Islands.
Then Onion, but that album isn’t half bad.


Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 14:51
Islands...

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 15:20
I'm actually going to have to side with the Union on this one.  I never knew that I was supposed to hate this album until I came to PA. 


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 15:34
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Islands. Trespass is almost as great. Union is ok.
Exactly my thoughts.




Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 20:09
I'll also have to join the Islands > Trespass > Union camp. I consider the first two to be masterpieces, both notable for allowing their respective bands to meander a little more than usual, structurally, and explore their gentler sides. Not so huge on Union, though.

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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 22:34
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm actually going to have to side with the Union on this one.  I never knew that I was supposed to hate this album until I came to PA. 

With you buddy, haha. 


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 22:57
If there had been Time and a Word from Yes, it would have been much harder choise to me, because that one is my big Yes favourites.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 01:57
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm actually going to have to side with the Union on this one.  I never knew that I was supposed to hate this album until I came to PA. 

With you buddy, haha. 

I was ready to be the only one voting for Union LOL

Union
Islands
Trespass


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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 02:51
Time and a Word by Yes would have made it a better contest. Union is not that good and doesn't bear comparison to two great albums in Trespass and Islands.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 03:40
I'll vote for Trespass. Islands comes a very close second; almost toss of a coin really..

Union is horsesh*t.



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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 04:06
A nice setting to make me vote for King Crimson over two of my long time favourite bands Wink.



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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 05:05
Why ?   Why ? ...........
............all the hate for ‘Onion’ ???
Yeah, every man and his dog played keyboards throughout, but man, most songs kick ass !!


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 05:34
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Why ?   Why ? ...........
............all the hate for ‘Onion’ ???
Yeah, every man and his dog played keyboards throughout, but man, most songs kick ass !!


A couple of songs are quite good, but it's a very uneven and 'hurried' album. When you consider the talent that was present in the studio, the output was not even as good as Drama. Wakemen said it was the first Yes album he'd been involved with where the producer and numerous contributors were on the page of "Yeah, that'll do" instead of "Hmm, that could be better, let's do it again"

The first fhree tracks are memorable for me, although Lift me Up sounds like a cheesy John Farnham B side, after that the whole thing fizzles out. An album for the sake of it IMO, although apparently the tour was excellent.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 06:04
^ f**k me !! You’ve heard of Johnny Farnham .....?!   Sorry, but he is a f**kWIT !! And Onion. No matter how lame it may be for a lot of folks, can not be compared to Whispering Jack.


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 06:30
^sorry if I woke your big emotions with my Beatles thread.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 06:45
^ I haven’t lost my sh*t !! Just some things make me shake my head. And not in an Anthrax sort of way......no harm done. No harm intended. I happen to dig the most ‘uncoolest’ of bands ever - Kajagoogoo. I sport a strong collection of vinyl from these guys.


Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 06:50
Trespass for me

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 08:25
Islands.

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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 08:31
Islands. It's not close.


Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 08:52
Crim'

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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 13:57
Trespass 4.5*
Islands 2*
Union 1.5*


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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 14:47
 I actually like several tracks on Union, even though it was butchered in production. It's no Close To The Edge, but it has moments.



Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 19:04
Surprisingly tough to choose between Islands & Trespass...today it's Trespass though tomorrow could be the other way around Wink


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 20:06
Islands........

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 22:17
Trespass I guess. It's the most consistently good album of the 3. Though my favourite tracks from any of these albums would be from Union: I Would have Waited Forever, Sock to the System, and The More we Live.


Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: February 01 2018 at 12:13
Islands and Trespass


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 01 2018 at 15:29
KC

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: February 01 2018 at 16:08
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

An album for the sake of it IMO, although apparently the tour was excellent.


I saw the Union tour at the Oakland Arena.  It wasn't so much that it was musically excellent, but historically excellent.  Just seeing all those guys up there together made me feel like the night was a celebration of the entire history of Yes...and us Yes fans.  There were a few awkward moments, usually between Howe and Rabin over who was going to play what and who was going to stand down and watch the other, but on the whole everybody played nice and it was a historic show.

The best moment of the night was a tie.  First was getting to see Bruford & Squire play the middle section to Heart of the Sunrise together for the 1st time since 1972.  Awesome, especially since for most of the night Alan White handled the proper "drumming" while Bruford added percussion, but for the drum & bass part of Sunrise, they switched up.  The other highlight was the Bruford/White drum duet.  I had always found the Genesis Phil Collins/Chester Thompson duets beginning in the late 70's to be rather boring and not very innovative, where the Bruford/White duet really stretched some boundaries. 

The worst moment of the night was seeing Tony Kaye rather than Patrick Moraz walk onstage.  Tony wasn't bad or anything and he was the obvious choice because of the Yes West/Yes East merge that became Union, but it would have been amazing to have seen Wakeman & Moraz on the same stage trading MiniMoog solos or maybe both taking a turn at the Close to the Edge hammond solo so many Yes fans think Moraz ruined night after night in '75 and '76 LOL


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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: February 01 2018 at 16:12
Trespass by quite a distance. Islands and Union have their moments, but as a whole, Trespass works well as prototype Genesis. Nothing comes close to "Stagnation'' amongst all the songs.

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 01 2018 at 21:50
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:



The worst moment of the night was seeing Tony Kaye rather than Patrick Moraz walk onstage.  Tony wasn't bad or anything and he was the obvious choice because of the Yes West/Yes East merge that became Union, but it would have been amazing to have seen Wakeman & Moraz on the same stage trading MiniMoog solos or maybe both taking a turn at the Close to the Edge hammond solo so many Yes fans think Moraz ruined night after night in '75 and '76 LOL
I have read somewhere that Kaye´s skills were so bad that time that he even not played really on that tour. That it was someone else who played his parts back of the stage.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 02 2018 at 02:14
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:



The worst moment of the night was seeing Tony Kaye rather than Patrick Moraz walk onstage.  Tony wasn't bad or anything and he was the obvious choice because of the Yes West/Yes East merge that became Union, but it would have been amazing to have seen Wakeman & Moraz on the same stage trading MiniMoog solos or maybe both taking a turn at the Close to the Edge hammond solo so many Yes fans think Moraz ruined night after night in '75 and '76 LOL
I have read somewhere that Kaye´s skills were so bad that time that he even not played really on that tour. That it was someone else who played his parts back of the stage.

I heard the same, and I wish it was Wakeman instead as well lol. I love watching stuff on YouTube from that tour, though. There are some really powerful, arena-ready songs on that record. 1991 was such a weird year for music in general.


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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: February 02 2018 at 11:36
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:



The worst moment of the night was seeing Tony Kaye rather than Patrick Moraz walk onstage.  Tony wasn't bad or anything and he was the obvious choice because of the Yes West/Yes East merge that became Union, but it would have been amazing to have seen Wakeman & Moraz on the same stage trading MiniMoog solos or maybe both taking a turn at the Close to the Edge hammond solo so many Yes fans think Moraz ruined night after night in '75 and '76 LOL
I have read somewhere that Kaye´s skills were so bad that time that he even not played really on that tour. That it was someone else who played his parts back of the stage.

I heard the same, and I wish it was Wakeman instead as well lol. I love watching stuff on YouTube from that tour, though. There are some really powerful, arena-ready songs on that record. 1991 was such a weird year for music in general.


Tony was kind of embarrassing to watch that night...he kept doing this silly move where he'd run his hands down the whole keyboard and end with a half jumping flourish.  After a few of these my wife leaned over and said, "wow, that guy with the white hair is really a showman".  I replied: It's easy to be a showman when you're not really doing anything hard...if you want to see the keyboard parts that matter watch the blond guy with the cape LOL


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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: February 02 2018 at 16:37
1 - Trespass
2 - Islands






90123 - Union


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 02 2018 at 20:02
Islands




Trespass
Union


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