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Topic: Trick of the Tail Vs Going for the One
Posted By: Argo2112
Subject: Trick of the Tail Vs Going for the One
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 14:44
 A couple of mid 70's prog gems, one from Genesis & one from Yes. Which do you like better?



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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 15:03
Trick of the Tail 4*
Going for the One 2.5*


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 15:04
Genesis, even if Awaken is on-par with Entangled.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 15:05
Both 4.5* in my book. Hard to choose a favourite.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 15:05
Trick for me. 

I enjoy it more than GFTO. 
GFTO has two songs that stand out these days - Parallels and Awaken. The rest is ok but not that special anymore.

The only song I can complain a bit on Trick is the title track. it's an ok song but not great (like the rest of the album). 


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 15:22
1st vote for G4tT1! It's all about "Parallels" and "Awaken" for me.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 15:41
Definitely Genesis 

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 15:47
Tough call...imo both have some good tracks and some average ones .....like the artwork on TOTT and hate the cover of GFTO.....but it's hard to beat Awaken.....perhaps the last great Yes epic.....so Yes wins.

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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 16:18
Trick of the Tail just has that something extra which I can't really explain. Going for the One has some great stuff on it, and I can't argue with anyone who would put that first - there is something about Trick that defines a time, place and nostalgic feeling for me more.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 16:49
ouch ...that is going to leave a mark man

least favorite Yes album (at least 70's and 80's haha) against some insomnia inducing Genesis album

nope.. can't do it

no vote


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 17:09
Huge Yes fan. I like all of their seventies albums including Tormato a lot. However, GFTO is not in my top 3 of Yes(maybe number 5) where as ATOTT is my favorite Genesis album so there you go. 


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 17:13
Genesis on this one!

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 17:19
Both really good albums. I've probably listened to Trick more over the last 40 years.

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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 18:49


Trick of the Tail -  Excellent

Going for the One - Masterpiece



Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 19:03
Trick easy. GFTO is  badly recorded

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 19:05
I love all of Trick of the Tail, but only about half of GFTO...Turn of the Century and Wondrous Stories bore me to tears LOL


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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 19:21

Trick of the Tail is recorded very well and loves to be cranked on a good system.

Going for the One is recorded poorly and fatiguing at high volume on a respectable system.  None the less, it’s still a masterpiece.



Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 20:28
Genesis

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 20:44
Re: Going For The One - why does the title track sound so shrill ?? Actually, Howe sounds shrill all ‘round on this record.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 21:09
Going for the One has Awaken, so...


Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 21:30
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Re: Going For The One - why does the title track sound so shrill ?? Actually, Howe sounds shrill all ‘round on this record.


Shrill is just Howe's sound, it's not so bad on the earlier albums because he was mostly playing his Gibsons, but he started using a lot more Fenders starting from around Relayer (which I think is a lot more shrill than GFTO; likely due to the prominence of his Telecaster).

I've never found the GFTO album to be that shrill sounding, although the title track is on his Fender lap steel, so that's probably not too different from their regular guitars, and Awaken features a Rickenbacker and the Telecaster, both known for being bright twangy guitars. There might be some Strat on Parallels (at least he uses one live), which is also pretty twangy sounding.


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 22:37
It's a tie for me. Love them both.


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 21 2018 at 22:59
Going for the One.


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 05:04
Trick of the Tail for sure, is my fav Genesis album and one of my all time fav prog releasesBig smile

Going also is not bad at all


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 06:06
Trick of the Tail overall.

GFTO is a very good album. In my Yes top five, and it has to be said Awaken is jaw droppingly good progressive rock!

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 06:23
Trick of the Tail gets the nod, despite Awaken (because reasons).



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Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 08:10
Trick of the Tail
Going for the One


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 08:13
As someone said, GFTO has Awaken. Also TOTT has Robbery, Assault and Battery so even though it's a great album, GFTO gets the nod.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 08:15
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Re: Going For The One - why does the title track sound so shrill ?? Actually, Howe sounds shrill all ‘round on this record.


Shrill is just Howe's sound, it's not so bad on the earlier albums because he was mostly playing his Gibsons, but he started using a lot more Fenders starting from around Relayer (which I think is a lot more shrill than GFTO; likely due to the prominence of his Telecaster).

I've never found the GFTO album to be that shrill sounding, although the title track is on his Fender lap steel, so that's probably not too different from their regular guitars, and Awaken features a Rickenbacker and the Telecaster, both known for being bright twangy guitars. There might be some Strat on Parallels (at least he uses one live), which is also pretty twangy sounding.
It took me a while to get over Howe's crazy guitar on the title track, same with the end of Turn of the Century but it stems from The Ancient. Someone really should have had a quiet word and told him to ease back a bit.


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 08:25
Going For The One 9/10
A Trick Of The Tail 10/10


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 09:31
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Re: Going For The One - why does the title track sound so shrill ?? Actually, Howe sounds shrill all ‘round on this record.


Shrill is just Howe's sound, it's not so bad on the earlier albums because he was mostly playing his Gibsons, but he started using a lot more Fenders starting from around Relayer (which I think is a lot more shrill than GFTO; likely due to the prominence of his Telecaster).

I've never found the GFTO album to be that shrill sounding, although the title track is on his Fender lap steel, so that's probably not too different from their regular guitars, and Awaken features a Rickenbacker and the Telecaster, both known for being bright twangy guitars. There might be some Strat on Parallels (at least he uses one live), which is also pretty twangy sounding.
It took me a while to get over Howe's crazy guitar on the title track, same with the end of Turn of the Century but it stems from The Ancient. Someone really should have had a quiet word and told him to ease back a bit.


In the YesYears video, Howe talks about wanting to put steel on a lot more songs than he did but says it was always a fight LOL


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 10:37
I love Awaken, but feel somewhat indifferent to the remainder of the album. I love all of Trick - even moreso now than when I first started listening to it. One of those albums that instantly sounded great to these ears yet has continued to grow on me. The keys on Entangled are a surefire way to goosebumps city. Always have been

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 11:57
You have to ask (A Trick of the Tail)? And Going for the One is a ginormous song!

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Posted By: SquonkHunter
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 22:29
Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Trick of the Tail just has that something extra which I can't really explain. Going for the One has some great stuff on it, and I can't argue with anyone who would put that first - there is something about Trick that defines a time, place and nostalgic feeling for me more.


The Squonks agree on this one. Clap  Trick of the Tail is THE album that made me a Genesis fan. GFTO is the great Yes comeback album. They both have a special place in my heart but Trick has a little higher place.


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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 23:04
I don't think GFTO is well recorded. All the songs on the album sound better over the years when played live by the band. Trick on the other hand works well on the recorded studio album as well as recorded live by the band.


Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 03:50
I love "A Trick of the Tail... but "Going for the One is my vote !Clap


Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 16:00
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Trick of the Tail is recorded very well and loves to be cranked on a good system.

Going for the One is recorded poorly and fatiguing at high volume on a respectable system.

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Re: Going For The One - why does the title track sound so shrill ?? Actually, Howe sounds shrill all ‘round on this record.

Going For The One was the first Yes album since The Yes Album that wasn't produced/engineered by Eddy Offord, so I imagine there were quite a few rough edges to be smoothed out with the new crew in the studio, which is probably a big part of why the album is so tinny. 

Between these two albums, I'll surprisingly go with Genesis. I don't think I've voted for a Genesis album over a Yes one in a long time, but Trick has my respect for having plenty of what Genesis did at their best: gentle, elegant acoustic passages. Going For The One, on the other hand, seems quite a bit less inspired and energetic than the albums leading up to it (and I'm sure the poor production has quite a bit to do with that). I wouldn't consider either to be a masterpiece, but Trick has some seriously fantastic standout moments (Ripples being my favourite) while Going For The One is more or less consistently underwhelming for me.


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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 18:20
Originally posted by SquonkHunter SquonkHunter wrote:

Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Trick of the Tail just has that something extra which I can't really explain. Going for the One has some great stuff on it, and I can't argue with anyone who would put that first - there is something about Trick that defines a time, place and nostalgic feeling for me more.


The Squonks agree on this one. Clap  Trick of the Tail is THE album that made me a Genesis fan. GFTO is the great Yes comeback album. They both have a special place in my heart but Trick has a little higher place.

Welcome back SquonkHunter! Haven't seen you for a while! I've adjusted my avatar slightly to differentiate us a touch (as you got there first!)

By the way....I agree fully with your comments!


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Posted By: SquonkHunter
Date Posted: February 24 2018 at 18:22
Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Originally posted by SquonkHunter SquonkHunter wrote:

Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Trick of the Tail just has that something extra which I can't really explain. Going for the One has some great stuff on it, and I can't argue with anyone who would put that first - there is something about Trick that defines a time, place and nostalgic feeling for me more.


The Squonks agree on this one. Clap  Trick of the Tail is THE album that made me a Genesis fan. GFTO is the great Yes comeback album. They both have a special place in my heart but Trick has a little higher place.

Welcome back SquonkHunter! Haven't seen you for a while! I've adjusted my avatar slightly to differentiate us a touch (as you got there first!)

By the way....I agree fully with your comments!


Your avatar reflects your exceptionally good taste in music. Trick of the Tail  came into my life at a point when I really needed a boost. The song Entangled provided that boost and the rest of the album completed it. I still listen to it on a regular basis and it never fails me.


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Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: February 24 2018 at 19:35
Very pertinent comparison. The albums which mark the end of greatness for both bands imo. A Trick of the Tail is much more enjoyable than Going for the One to my ears.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 24 2018 at 22:49
Indeed, Trick never gets tired. I’ve had this album since 1987, and still get excited whenever I listen to it.
GFTO I spin every so often........it kind of goes through the motions until Awaken. Turn of the Century is also quite beautiful.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 24 2018 at 23:28
For me Yes was over  with Relayer, with a short good point at Drama.

Genesis still had 2 great albums ATOTT and W&W




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