Top Genesis Albums of All Time
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Topic: Top Genesis Albums of All Time
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Subject: Top Genesis Albums of All Time
Date Posted: March 13 2018 at 22:18
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Thoughts on this video?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXwDQ-XPC4 ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 14 2018 at 01:57
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It would have been nice if you told us why you posted the video and what you think of it. Another ranking on youtube, there are too many anyway, I watched some, I gotta find better ways to kill time. But curiosity gets the worst of me (LOL).
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 14 2018 at 09:20
| I only glance at sections of it but it was better than I expected. Sometimes you see these things & the pop stuff seems to rise to the top in these polls but it look like the real prog stuff prevailed for the most part. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 14 2018 at 10:42
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I don't agree with some of the order, but I do agree with their #1 pick. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 14 2018 at 19:15
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My top six: Trespass Foxtrot Nursery Cryme Wind and Wuthering A Trick of the Tail Selling England By the Pound Not a big fan of the Lamb although it would probably make my number seven. These days I might swap SE for Trick but close enough.
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 04:02
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Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme are way too low ! I will do like AFlowerKingCrimson, and give you my top six: 1- The Lamb Lies down on Broadway 2- Foxtrot 3- Nursery Cryme 4- SEBTP 5- ATOTT 6- Either WaW or Duke ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 05:34
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1. The Lamb 2. Foxtrot 3. Nursery 4. Trick 5. SEBTP 6. W&W
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 05:54
| Though I respect their opinion, I disagree with it. |
Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 09:39
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It's better than it could have been. #1 squares with the vast majority of Genesis polls though--they did extraordinary work on their (what usually pops into my mind as 3rd album) 5th album. I think Lamb is high, because it seems their method didn't account for a double-length album. ------------- -John |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 11:34
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1. Lamb 2. Foxtrot 3. Selling England 4. Nursery 5. Trespass 6. Wind & Wuthering
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 11:47
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1. SEBTP 2. Trick of the Tail 3. Lamb 4 .Duke (yes, I said Duke!) 5. Foxtrot 6. Wind & Wuthering |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 14:09
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1) SEBTP 2) The Lamb 3) Nursery Cryme 4) Trespass 5) Trick 6) Foxtrot ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 14:36
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If our own extended version of "Nursery Cryme" (with two tracks added by us, "Happy the Man" and "Twilight Alehouse" because we think they belong there) counts, then it would be this: 1) Nursery Cryme 2) The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 3) Foxtrot 4) A Trick of the Tail 5) Selling England by the Pound 6) Wind and Wuthering 7) Trespass 8) From Genesis to Revelation 9) Duke 10) The rest -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 15 2018 at 17:25
------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: March 16 2018 at 18:57
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1. The Lamb 2. Nursery Cryme 3. Selling England by the Pound 4. Trespass 5. Foxtrot 6. Trick of the Tail 7. Wind & Wuthering 8. From Genesis to Revelation 9. ...meh ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 16 2018 at 22:40
Of course    ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
HackettFan wrote:Posted By: ReactioninG
Date Posted: March 17 2018 at 18:41
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1. Lamb Lies Down 2. Selling England 3. Foxtrot 4. Invisible Touch 5. Duke 6. We Can't Dance 7. Abacab 8. Genesis 9. A Trick Of A Tail 10. Wind and Wuthering |
Posted By: Braka
Date Posted: March 18 2018 at 21:41
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My first thought when I saw the guy hosting that video was, "God, this idiot probably hasn't listened to anything before 'Abacab", but since it turned out to be a poll, I suppose that's mitigated somewhat, and he did turn out to sound like he was familiar with the band's work. But the whole concept of extrapolating a favourite album based on votes for individual songs is fatally flawed. 'Foxtrot', for example, is hamstrung by having so few songs to receive votes, despite 'Supper's Ready' coming in at #1 (I wonder how 'Close to the Edge' would have fared in a Yes albums poll, using the same method). |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 01:57
Exactly. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 02:09
| I'll add the Genesis Live (1973), my first prog album. I listen to it again recently. This is strange, but after all these years it sounds as good as in my young years. It's a good feeling when you catch your dream on the first try. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 02:25
this is a headache inducing list. Invisible Touch, Abacab and WCD ahead of Trick and Wind and Wuthering? Where are Trespass and Nursery Cryme? And Then There Were Three? I'm not picking on you, i just do not understand...
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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 03:07
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1) Trick of the Tail 2) Wind and Wuthering 3) ATTWT 4) Lamb 5) Selling England 6) Foxtrot 7) trespass 8) Nursery Cryme 9) Duke 10) IT 11) Abacab 12) WCD 13) calling all stations 14) From here to Rev Genesis is a hard group to play this game with. If you are a fan of the PG and PC led Genesis, the first 10 are from very good to excellent. I tend to play the 3 albums where TB was the leader the most out of the studio albums. Edit- crap, forgot Genesis put it after Duke |
Posted By: jonbirion
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 04:34
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genesis is one of my favourite bands 1 selling england 2 Foxtrot for suppers ready 3 Nursery Cryme 4 Trick of the Tail 5 trespass 6 lamb 7 wind
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Posted By: ReactioninG
Date Posted: March 19 2018 at 20:38
Some people appreciate pop-prog. The poorer classic prog albums in their catalogue don't measure up to pop-prog masterpieces like Invisible Touch. |
Posted By: Frankh
Date Posted: March 20 2018 at 01:22
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Foxtrot Selling England The Lamb Trick Of The Tail Nursery Cryme Wind And Wuthering Trespass And Then There Were Three Duke Abacab ------------- Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 20 2018 at 02:25
ATotT and W&W are "poorer classic prog"? OMG, you are not kidding. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 20 2018 at 03:50
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1. Foxtrot 2. Selling England by the Pound 3. Nursery Cryme 4. Wind and Wuthering ) Alternating The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway ) 4th and 5th 6. A Trick of the Tail 7. Trespass 8. Duke 9. Invisible Touch X. And Then There Were Three ------------- 
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Posted By: ReactioninG
Date Posted: March 20 2018 at 18:56
Nope. I'd rather have Invisible Touch on a Desert Island than those two albums. And I listen to Invisible Touch more. As for ATotT and W&W being "poorer classic prog," in my opinion they are poorer than the three great Genesis albums and the best contemporary albums from other artists. I frequently listen to those two albums in particular along with ATTWT as a bedtime albums for when I go to sleep, not for close listening. They aren't exactly masterpieces. They have their moments, but I'm not greatly moved by the music. The lyrics, themes and (lack) of an emotional edge are often terrible. By Invisible Touch, the band settled on their smoldering anger and depression and (Phil Collins) troubles with women thing. The first three albums after Gabriel are like tossing one to the faires or trying to copy Gabriel without any substance. In short, the music is boring. Not to say they aren't good albums, but I'm ranking them against great albums. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 20 2018 at 22:56
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I don't rate LLDOB as highly as others but agree with their top five in the video if you replace LLDOB with Foxtrot. So I would have gone: 5) Duke 4) W & W 3) TOTT 2) Foxtrot 1) SEBTP
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 20 2018 at 23:40
I really hope you don´t say them poor classic prog albums.
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Posted By: ReactioninG
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 09:28
Nursery and Trespass are albums I don't listen to anymore aside perhaps from the track "The Return of the Giant Hogweed." I had an opinion about Nursery Cryme once but I haven't listened to it all the way through for years so I no longer have an opinion. My tastes have changed since my youth and I don't even listen to Foxtrot or Selling England by the Pound very often. I'm kind of on the look out for new bands these days, without much luck. My last big obsession was with Frank Zappa who I discovered (when he was finally available for streaming) in 2013. I'm real tired of some of the older prog stuff I used to listen to. I come back time and again for a few of the exceptional albums. Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is important to me, for instance. |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 11:32
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Studio Albums: 1) Foxtrot 2) Selling England by the Pound 3) Nursery Cryme 4) The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 5) A Trick of the Tail 6) Trespass 7) Wind and Wuthering 8) From Genesis to Revelation 9) And Then There Were Three 10) Duke ...then the rest, with ABACAB probably leading the peloton a few miles down the road. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 21:56
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Selling England Trick of the Tail The Lamb Foxtrot Wind and W Duke Nursery Crime Abacab And then there were 3 Shapes Invisible touch Trespass this is currently the ones I listen to in terms of frequency---
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 23:44
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Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: March 24 2018 at 17:09
Keyboard pop doesn't equate to pop-prog, in my book. And I can't wrap my mind around the last 6 words. And before people start objecting to my opinionating, "masterpiece" is not an "I just like it" type of word. It suggests a type of objective standard, a discipline mastered. You can easily say it's a "pop masterpiece" because it mastered what there is of pop--to be popular. It sold tons. From a more prog perspective, Domino is enjoyable, Brazilian is striking, and even Tonight x3 as a type of song that I don't want to turn off as soon as it starts. As for albums I still listen to, I can't listen to very much classic Genesis very often. Not because it's lacks something--but because I know it too well. My mind just races ahead of the music...patterns well worn into my mind. ------------- -John |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 24 2018 at 19:16
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Interesting! This play for claiming Genesis "pop-prog" albums as prog masterpieces is as perplexing to me as the fairly recent phenomenon of pushing for the same lofty status for Trespass and From Genesis to Revelation. I just don't get it! It's like elevating Yes and Time and A Word or Supertramp and Indelibly Stamped to equal status with Fragile, CTTE and Relayer and Crime of the Century, respectively. The potential may be showing but the mastery is nowhere near where it will be. Sometimes I think we confuse the tadpole with the frog, the shadow of the athlete at its peak with the raw talent of its youthful, exuberant self in training. They may be one and the same creatures but they are not producing the same results/products. Interesting the power that nostalgia has over the aging individual... ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 25 2018 at 01:19
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^Well, I haven´t heard all Supertramp albums, but to me their first album is lot greater than their next two. I think I have to listen today Crisis? What Crisis? Also I think Time and a Word is as great as the Yes Album & Fragile, those three are my favourite Yes-albums. But not really think Genesis did anything as great after Lamb Lies Down, as Nursery, Foxtrot, Selling and Lamb were, also before Nursery. I think what we think is greates things in music differs.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 25 2018 at 09:04
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I have said before ( ... Barbu will say I'm repeating myself....;)) I don't listen to any Genesis past Wind& Wuthering....and I mostly listen to the 3 classics...Cryme, Foxtrot, SEBTP. The later ones after Wind with Collins at the helm have good production and recording values but imho the songs simply don;t reflect what Genesis was all about. To call any of those later ones prog classic is simply ludicrous. I will say they have some nice pop rock songs here and there that border on prog....but overall imho they aren't anywhere near as interesting as the earlier true prog material. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |