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21st Century Schizoid Man vs Heart of the Sunrise

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Topic: 21st Century Schizoid Man vs Heart of the Sunrise
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: 21st Century Schizoid Man vs Heart of the Sunrise
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 20:39
Well, somebody had to do it. Tongue



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Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 21:08
I've got the hots for HotS!


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 21:34
I'm not sure. I find both songs great and not so sure at the same time. Mostly, if we are talking about the original studio versions... in that case I guess the vote goes for Heart of the Sunrise. But from 21st Century I like much better the Ausbury Park (USA) version, and from Heart of the Sunrise I like better the ABWH version... however, in this case, I guess my preference goes to Schizoid Man.


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 22:09
Heart of the Sunrise....the live version.

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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 22:12
Heart of The Sunrise by a long shot; an easy top 10'er for me. Schizoid Man is still pretty great, though.

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 23:38
Sunrise, at this moment.

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 21 2018 at 23:55
21st to me.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 01:19
both, the always easy option because otherwise, I wouldn't be able to choose between these two. 


Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 04:17
Two fantastic songs... Yes wins but not so far !!!!


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 04:20
Heart of The Sunrise.

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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 05:12
Heart of the Sunrise, easily

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 05:21
I vote for the one that's a seven and a half minute long music revolution. Of course the other one is a classic as well.


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 05:58
Schizoid...

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 06:20
Both great, but HotS is my favourite.

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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 06:20
Sharp. Distance.

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 07:34
SHARP
DISTANCE

;-)


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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 08:02
Heart, but both are great. 


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 08:20
Heart of the Sunrise is a bit of a mess for me. Great parts but the structure isn't cohesive enough to me.
21st Century Schizoid Man is a good KC rocker; not something I'm compelled to spin too often though.
Good tracks, both bands did better stuff IMO.
Voted both. 


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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 08:21
HotS is my favorite song ever.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 09:31
Gotta go with KC on this one....The Man is an incredible song from an incredible album that had a lot to do with changing the face of prog to come....at least imo.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 11:05
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

both, the always easy option because otherwise, I wouldn't be able to choose between these two. 

That's why it's there: for indecisive folks like us. Smile


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 11:24
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Heart of the Sunrise is a bit of a mess for me. Great parts but the structure isn't cohesive enough to me.
21st Century Schizoid Man is a good KC rocker; not something I'm compelled to spin too often though.
Good tracks, both bands did better stuff IMO.
Voted both. 


"Heart of the Sunrise" can be gorgeous, but it has these noodly bits that feel unnecessarily jarring and I do think it would be better if it were more cohesive and elegant. As a teenager when Fragile ranked amongst my favourite albums, I made a mix tape (double cassette player) where I tried to edit it to make it sound better to my ears.

I vote for "21st Century Schizoid Man". It's not off an album that I've spun much for many years, but I do still dig it now and then. I do put that on a mix CD at one time, sandwiched between "Peaches en Regalia" and "Free Hand" as I recall. That song played a significant role in me getting back into progressive rock and exploring it more deeply.

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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 11:24
I'm using Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle on this one! Chickening out by choosing BOTH! Both classics for completely different reasons.

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 12:16
Wow!!!! two major league songs, at least in my book. It's a tie.


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 12:54
Schizoid Man.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 13:40
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Gotta go with KC on this one....The Man is an incredible song from an incredible album that had a lot to do with changing the face of prog to come....at least imo.


Given the time of it's release, it was not so much changing the face of prog, but shaping it.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 15:09
KC

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 16:14
yeah that is some major league stuff man.. nice poll but Heart of the Sunrise still absolutely smokes 21st Century S.M in everything but not having Lake's awesome vocals..  but very little.. and not a damn thing by Crimson can stand against the 4 headed Squire, Howe, Wakeman, Bruford monster when on its game and this might have been the single best 'song' they did. 

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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 18:27
I could listen to 21st Century SM 21 times in a week and still enjoy it. Not so with Heart of the Sunrise.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 19:26
HotS to trot!

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 20:20
heart of the Sunrise is exhibit A for why I've never really taken to Yes.  Schizoid is about my 10th favorite KC song and it's still better...it would lose to "Close to the Edge" and "And You and I" though


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: March 22 2018 at 20:50
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


"Heart of the Sunrise" can be gorgeous, but it has these noodly bits that feel unnecessarily jarring and I do think it would be better if it were more cohesive and elegant.

Couldn't have said it better. They didn't fall into this problem often thankfully. I can see why it's so highly regarded though.



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 07:26
^Plenty of jarring bits in Schizoid Man......but then I think that was intended.
;)



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:23
HOTSR

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:26
For those who don't know, the main riff of HotSR was actually based on the middle part of Schizoid Man.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:34
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For those who don't know, the main riff of HotSR was actually based on the middle part of Schizoid Man.
I didn't know - Cool! I can hear it (in my head).

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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 23:26
Heart of the Sunrise

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: March 24 2018 at 01:40
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

^Plenty of jarring bits in Schizoid Man......but then I think that was intended.
;)


At least it's consistent.


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: March 24 2018 at 03:06
I prefer Yes. Not much love for the first KC.


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 24 2018 at 14:53
I understand "Schizoid"'s significance, historically, but "Heart of the Sunrise" is one of my absolute favorite songs ever made. Can't vote against it...

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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: March 25 2018 at 14:54
I can't choose between those two master pieces



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