The Steve Howe Album vs. Voyage of the Acolyte
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Topic: The Steve Howe Album vs. Voyage of the Acolyte
Posted By: iancat87
Subject: The Steve Howe Album vs. Voyage of the Acolyte
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 08:05
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Not so much "which guitarist do you prefer" but instead "who has the better solo record." Frankly, I'm torn. I tend to veer more towards Acolyte because it sounds like Nobuo Uematsu borrowed heavily from the album for composing Final Fantasy VII. ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 08:08
| I rarely reach for Acolyte anymore. Great LP but it somehow "off" for me. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 08:09
GTR 
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 09:25
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I love both these guys, but Acolyte is easily the better album. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 10:18
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No contest ; Steve Hackett. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 10:21
SHOTS FIRED ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
Wanorak wrote:Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 10:23
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Voyage of the Acolyte is a true classic - the lost Genesis album in many ways. I love Steve Howe's guitar work and his albums too, but Steve Hackett romps home here. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 11:02
Yes. I like both albums, but Voyage is the better one.
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Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 11:35
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I'm a little surprised that Acolyte is running away with it here. ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 12:10
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Very different, both essential. ------------- |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 12:43
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Voyage is a 5 star album. The Steve Howe Album is an album. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 12:45
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^ That sums it up succinctly. :) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 12:46
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It's tough to compare the two albums; Acolyte sounds more like a "proper" prog rock album, whereas The Steve Howe Album seems like more of an opportunity for Howe to experiment with different guitars and genres. A fun listen in my opinion, but there isn't a lot of substantial material on it. Acolyte could pass as "the lost Genesis album", but I don't think Howe's album could be "the lost Yes album"... maybe Fish Out Of Water could pass for that if anything. I'd have to pick Acolyte, even though I enjoy both. ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 12:54
Yeah I mean, I wouldn't think of Howe's record as a "lost Yes album" either, it's just an album. Acolyte has a much more drawn out concept with the tarot thing, sure, and it has that reputation of being "the lost Genesis album," but it's not like Hackett was intending it to be one. He left that band on his own accord, and on good terms from my understanding. So as far as polling for these two records, I just wanted folks to compare the two albums for what they are—albums. (And I enjoy both of them too, but I do believe Acolyte to be all around better.) ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
Posted By: ForestFriend
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 12:58
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Yeah, I guess it's a strange way of judging a solo album, although I think the important thing is that Hackett's feels like it could fit in with the important prog albums (Genesis or not), while Howe's doesn't. ------------- https://borealkinship.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My prog band - Boreal Kinship |
Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 13:09
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^I agree. ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 13:29
| Voyage of the Acolyte for me. I guess it would be interesting to put it against Fish out of Water too. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 13:51
| The Steve Howe album is very good and one of the best Yes solo albums from the 70's(along with FOOW, OOSH, M&LOKA&TKOTRT and SWOH8). However, I prefer VOTA since that's just the best thing that sounds like Genesis not by Genesis. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 13:55
For the most part I agree. Voyage sounds more like a unified band effort that one might mistake for an actual band rather than a solo album where as TSHA has solo written all over it for the reasons you mentioned. That being said I find it to be a very interesting album nonetheless and a bit more solid over all than "beginnings" which seems to lose the plot at some point with meandering pseudo classical chamber music.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 13:57
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Hackett ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 14:36
That would be a more square draw. I think that's been a poll before. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 15:59
how about putting up "Beginnings" against "Fish Out of Water", "Ramshackled", "Olias of Sunhillow", "The Six Wives of Henry VIII", "Feels Good to Me" and "The Story of I"? -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 16:31
You mean http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93403&KW=Solo" rel="nofollow - like this? ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 16:52
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Ha...I recall that thread now.... LOL ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 17:06
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Voyage ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: freyacat
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 17:08
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The common thread, of course, is that each is the guitarist of a major progressive rock band. What makes these albums difficult to compare is that The Steve Howe Album is a player's album, showcasing Steve's many different interests and styles. Voyage of the Acolyte is a composer's album, a unified statement of organized songs. I voted for Voyage of the Acolyte, but I much prefer Steve's recent live performances of this material, rather than listening to the actual album. The original LP was mixed poorly, in my opinion, and tends to grate on the ears. ------------- sad creature nailed upon the coloured door of time |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 20:31
Yup---as great as Howe is ---his solo stuff were great bits that could go into part of a Yes song---Hackett is a better song writer and always has been
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 20:43
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David Gilmour's first solo album is better than either. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 09 2018 at 21:06
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I was always disappointed in Gilmour's album......Hackett Voyage 1265 ratings 4.23, Gilmour 304 ratings 3.49. PA has spoken. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 01:06
| Voyage would have been a great Genesis album (and better than any post 80's Genesis album) so naturally Voyage is better than anything Steve could come up with (and more Prog than anything Steve comes up with as well). |
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 01:11
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 04:24
| easy choice - Hackett |
Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 04:34
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SH album by Steve Howe is easily my favorite from him. Voyage of the Acolyte, compared for example to three following albums of Steve Hackett, is my least favorite. But still Steve Hackett gets the vote by quite a margin. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trevorrabin/?chartstyle=basic10" rel="nofollow">  <a href="http://steveer.ic.cz" rel="nofollow" |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 05:42
| not trying to be bitchy here lol but strictly speaking Voyage is not a completely solo album as others co-wrote some of the songs with Hackett----Howe's album is all his I think. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 06:19
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Easy one - Voyage. Still a mainstay on my turntable. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 12:18
How much does this matter, though? Even if Howe wrote the entire album himself, this doesn't affect my feelings on which album I prefer. ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 16:55
So by that criteria Barry Manilllow, Barbara Streisand and the vast majority of individual pop artists to have their name on a record sleeves did not make solo albums. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 10 2018 at 22:06
of course not but Hackett did use guys in Genesis on his first solo album---he wrote all or most of the rest of his SOLO work---for most solo means these are my songs away from templet of said band---thats why Hackett left the band---for others like Squire he always said he needed a good collaborator like he had on Fish out of Water or Squackett ---his 2 most successful solo albums
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: May 11 2018 at 17:50
| Exactly because is far from YES music my vote is Steve Howe Album , but I agree : Voyage is a great album ! |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 12 2018 at 10:27
Actually, according to the record sleeve, there are two covers in Howe's album, "The Continental", written by Conran and Magdison, and "Concerto in D" which is an arrangement of Vivaldi's concerto.
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Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: May 14 2018 at 08:02
Still, even with the Genesis guys on Acolyte, it's still a solo album. It's an identity thing, the songwriting and band credits are secondary. Take Rod Stewart for example. He made some of the best music of his career with Faces, but still had Ron Wood, Ronnie Lane, Ian MacLagan, and Kenny Jones here and there on a couple of his SOLO records in the early to mid Seventies. The credits on Every Picture Tells a Story or Never A Dull Moment are almost the same as Acolyte in that it features some familiar musicians and writers interspersed with others. The point is, for both Howe and Hackett here, they were making/releasing records away from their respective groups. ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 14 2018 at 13:23
| ^ I just know a little bit of Rod Stewart's career, nor have I heard so many whole albums, but for me The Faces albums and his solo albums feel like the same... perhaps I should check the songs I have in my lists, see which ones are from one or the other, and check out writing credits and particular sounds from the other band members... |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 11:05
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Voyage of the Acolyte has some good moments, but it's actually best when it's looking forward to where Hackett would go in the future. I have never considered it a "missing Genesis album", and this album is now no longer in my collection. The Steve Howe Album receives my vote, and is one of his best.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 11:20
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Never really enjoyed Howe's solo stuff outside the Steve Howe Trio - that jazzy trio project built around Howe's guitar, Hammond organ and his son on drums. Wouldn't it be a gas if Bruford came out of retirement to whap the skins in a jazz trio with Howe and......Tony Kaye? Wakeman? Moraz? Reimagining Relayer in that format sounds like an "old man" way of reinvigorating the back catalog and maybe creating something new, eh? ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 11:27
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Steve Hackett's fantastic Voyage.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 12:02
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The Steve Howe album is way better IMHO. ------------- 
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 12:28
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It might have been better to have polls of albums from the same year: 1975 Steve Howe - Beginnings ----- vs.----- 1975 Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte 1979 The Steve Howe Album ----- vs.----- 1979 Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings Hackett would handily win both polls, I think.
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Posted By: Artik
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 12:43
| Of those two Hackett is better, but I much prefer Howe's Beginings so with this one my voting could be different |
Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 15:51
| You could have add Steve Hillage debut album, in that way it could have been an epic prog battle between the Steves. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 21 2021 at 16:48
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Poor Steve (Howe). ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 06:19
 ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 08:05
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No contest. Steve Hackett. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 11:13
I just listened to that soundtrack and could not find any similarity. Are you certain it is number VII? -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 11:24
Howe has a solo album!!!!?????  Why???-------------   
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 11:29
I agree .....Howe is a great player but an interesting songwriter he is not. Voyage is far far better than Howe's lp. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 11:50
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 12:04
He has many! Have a listen to Turbulence on YT. You'll like it! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Why???Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 22 2021 at 14:26
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Lieutenant_Lan
Date Posted: September 15 2021 at 09:04
| I love steve howe and i love his album. sue me |