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Topic: 80s Cinema Fantastique
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 80s Cinema Fantastique
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 12:48
Just realised that I missed Alien off my last poll, I thought it was 1980. Aliens would count for this, but I don't like it nearly as much as Alien. Lots more that I would like to list, but these are some of my favourites. Multiple votes again enabled. Feel free to mention any others you like, but I request that you do mention some on the list, and vote in the poll with what is given.
I plan to do a 90s and 2000s, and then another over the decades with titles that I like and forgot to mention or ran out of space for.

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 13:26
Lots of good ones on the list, but Blade Runner and Videodrome are the ones I really care about.

Also:
- The Beyond
- Inferno
- Dr. Jekyll and His Women
- The Perils of Gwendoline in the Land of the Yik-Yak


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 13:36
I'd have to give it to The Thing.   It made a big impact in 1982 and showed what a smaller budget and some talented people could do.   Carpenter was writing and recording his own scores, for crying out loud.   Who does that?   The Fly also excellent but a bit more conventional than The Thing.   BTW I think Aliens not on the list is fine, I'd barely call it CineFant anyway.

I would include another John Carpenter favorite: Escape from New York




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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 14:50
Hardly a film up there that I don't like.....some favorites are....
Blade Runner
The Shining
Altered States
Dune
Excalibur


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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 14:57
 Had to vote Blade Runner but lots of good ones here including Road Warrior, The Shining, Excalibur, The Thing, 1984... 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 16:32
^^^ David I had meant to include Escape from New York, but I guess it escaped my mind as I was typing this up. Tron is another that I thought of -- yeah, kids movie, but I like it.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 16:46
wow.  Great list.

but for all the greats...including the mighty Blade Runner... one stands out.





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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 16:49
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'd have to give it to The Thing.   It made a big impact in 1982 and showed what a smaller budget and some talented people could do.   Carpenter was writing and recording his own scores, for crying out loud.   Who does that?   The Fly also excellent but a bit more conventional than The Thing.   BTW I think Aliens not on the list is fine, I'd barely call it CineFant anyway.

I would include another John Carpenter favorite: Escape from New York



The Thing was the bomb.... 


'you've got to be f**king kidding'...  classic scene man.  Top 5 alltimer in cinema history in my humble opinion.


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 16:52
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
The Empire Strikes Back
The Karate Kid
Stardust Memories


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 19 2018 at 17:58
Someone with a picture of Gort from The Day the Earth Stood Still can't find one film to comment on in this SF/ Fantasy/ Horror list? Just surprised.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 21 2018 at 10:11
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

wow. Great list.

but for all the greats...including the mighty Blade Runner... one stands out.






I really love Excalibur (and Carl Orff's Carmina Burana -- been one of my most played "classical" works).

Incidentally, I'm really surprised to see that Brazil has no votes, I thought that would be quite a popular film with forum members (has been at other sites I've belonged to).

And if like dwill you can't find any cinema of the fantastic films to like in my list, please do feel free to mention any others -- not that I've thought of Karate Kid in that way, and Stardust Memories not that much, although it's 8 qualities make me think it more suitable to such a list as mine. I'm always looking to potentially discover new-to-me things.

Regarding The Empire Strikes Back, while Star Wars has generally not resonated that much with me, I do like that film (Yoda especially appeals to me).

This is fun:





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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 03:58
I wish Hellraiser series focused more on the fantastical horror then how it evolved into a parody. I liked howbthe first two keptbit silple and i wished for lore build arround the cebobites

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 07:27
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

[QUOTE=micky] 

Incidentally, I'm really surprised to see that Brazil has no votes, I thought that would be quite a popular film with forum members (has been at other sites I've belonged to).




yeah but you did such a bangup list and if can only vote for one... and you have such narrow participation.  I love the movie, the point is, I love just about all of them. Hard to choose.. I went Excalibur, I could have gone for about 6 of them if I didn't phone it in and just vote Blade Runner which is the only one of those I would put in my alltime top 5 favorite movies. (#2 btw)


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 08:00
I could vote for most of em but decided to go with my current favourite in 'Altered States'. Such a big sucker for Ken Russell's work. It always amazes me how little his movies are shown on tv. I mean, we have several 'cultural channels' that often show artsy movies, yet he is largely overlooked. Scratch that, 'Altered States' was shown on our national tv station (we the people fund it;) not too long ago...past midnight of course, but yeah that is also why I am so big on the flick right now.
I love the novel and quite frankly extremely interesting take on how to involve acid in the story. As for the actual cinematic language used, the imagery, it is simply breathtaking...and still looks great today imo. The climatic 'the universe in a small room-scene' is beautiful.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 08:08
oh yeah Greg.. interesting choice there I meant to ask earlier.

Road Warrior? over Mad Max.   Nah...  Mad Max was a vastly superior movie. Nothing in that movie touched the opening sequenze and the Nightrider. Plus it had great characters and a real story.  Good times... me and my old college roomate watched that one time and decided to head out to the back roads and tried to recreate the chase scene.   I lost, and nearly my life as my Firebird (or me) were unable to navigate a 15mph turn at 85 mph. 

youth? Loved it, as long was lucky enough to survive it.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 10:22
Agree, Micky. Definitely not Road Warrior over Mad Max, while I like both, Mad Max is a much more powerful film. The reason why Mad Max is not in this list is because it came out in 1979, and the reason why Mad Max is not on my "Some 60s/70s Speculative/Science Fiction films" list is because there was so much that I like from that period that I simply ran out of space (upset I missed Alien on that list, though, I had remembered it coming out in 1980 rather than 1979).

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 10:49
ahh.. yeah.. that makes sense. Carry on sir!!!

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 10:54
I'm just glad to see the Mad Max respect. It's a much deeper and more meaningful film than the sequel, but the sequel is still beautiful to look at in its way, and can be poignant and fun (I do like the cinematography and still care about characters in Road Warrior). On another note, all this recent conversation is getting me addicted to the board again -- I better watch out. I saw The Road Warrior first, but then when I went to live in Australia for some time, various people told me that I must watch the original as it's a superior film.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 08:41
A bit surprised that no one voted for The Hunger....since Bowie had a part in it.....very stylish vampire film.
I missed it on the list but went back and voted just now.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 12:27
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I could vote for most of em but decided to go with my current favourite in 'Altered States'. Such a big sucker for Ken Russell's work. It always amazes me how little his movies are shown on tv. I mean, we have several 'cultural channels' that often show artsy movies, yet he is largely overlooked. Scratch that, 'Altered States' was shown on our national tv station (we the people fund it;) not too long ago...past midnight of course, but yeah that is also why I am so big on the flick right now.
I love the novel and quite frankly extremely interesting take on how to involve acid in the story. As for the actual cinematic language used, the imagery, it is simply breathtaking...and still looks great today imo. The climatic 'the universe in a small room-scene' is beautiful.

It does have some very good moments, and some scary ones as well.   Bob Balaban perfectly cast as William Hurt's assistant, and the very sexy Blair Brown (with a nude scene even!).   The film is dated both in look and in cultural significance (the use of isolation chambers, Indian tribalism, and hallucinogens, etc.), but does still hold up.   Though it screams for a good remake.



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 12:45
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

A bit surprised that no one voted for The Hunger....since Bowie had a part in it.....very stylish vampire film.
I missed it on the list but went back and voted just now.


It's my brother's favourite film, and is very stylish indeed. Fans of Bauhaus would like it too. I've mentioned it any various forums over the years, and you're the first person that I can remember commenting it, so I'm one happy camper. I think that it's both an underknown and it's a seriously underrated film. Of course some like it because of an erotic scene with Susan Sarandon and Catherine Deneuve.

Just remembered another vampire film that I really like from the 80s, which is a terrific black comedy called Vampire's Kiss with Nicholas Cage.

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Time to do a Vampire films list - lol.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 15:17
oh I so LOOOOOOOOve vampire flicks... bring 'em on Greg

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 15:55
Haha, maybe I will. At least I'll learn about cool ones not on the list -- course Nosferatu, the amazing Christopher Lee will be well-represented, and Fearless Vampire Killers, plus mainstream ones like The Lost Boys, as well as lesser-known ones such as Let the Right One In.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 17:48
Just caught Count Yorga,Vampire, a classic '70s cult schlocker

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 18:04
I've heard of that, it's going on on my wish list. I love a slice of 70s cult schlock.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 23 2018 at 23:11
Time Bandits -> Poltergeist -> Re-Animator...

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 07 2020 at 18:40
Since Blade Runner got mentioned in my 60s/70s poll, thought I'd revive this. This was part of a series that I did for various cinema fantastique decades.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 07 2020 at 21:33
I would definitely include "Momo" based on a book by Michael Ende (who wrote "The Neverending Story") in the list, but I doubt many have seen it. Here a scene from it (unfortunately in German).



The guy with the cigar is an agent of the Time Savings Bank. These agents are not human; they live only on the time they steal from human beings which they convert into cigars they smoke. Momo, a little girl, stands up against them. The movie has John Huston, Armin Mller-Stahl and Mario Adorf in it. The title character is played by the charming Radost Bokel with these incredibly huge eyes.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 08 2020 at 08:10
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Haha, maybe I will. At least I'll learn about cool ones not on the list -- course Nosferatu, the amazing Christopher Lee will be well-represented, and Fearless Vampire Killers, plus mainstream ones like The Lost Boys, as well as lesser-known ones such as Let the Right One In.

Hi,

Micky ... you gotta see THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS ... it is a satire and fun film to see, but there are a couple of things in it that are sooooooooo Polanski in his films ... the camera use ... and when you get to the ballroom sequence, let me know! 

He did it again in ROSEMARY'S BABY in one shot (towards the end with the foot part of the bed visible through the door and nothing else ... and EVERYONE in the theater turned their heads to see what was on the other side of the door! No kidding! And then, one of his incredible bits ... not exactly pretty, but very effective and well done ... in TESS, the rape is done on a handheld camera and the rapist is the camera in this case! A very tough visual for most audiences.

For more "camera" stuff, make sure you see VISIONS OF LIGHT which is about cinematographers and how they talk about their craft and DIRECTORS ... you will find some amazing bits there that really show what a director is all about!


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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 09:39
Most of these are favorites of mine. But I ended up giving the nod to Blade Runner, Videodrome, The Thing, The Fly, Altered States and Robocop


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 10:25
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

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Road Warrior? over Mad Max.   Nah...  Mad Max was a vastly superior movie. Nothing in that movie touched the opening sequence and the Nightrider.
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Hi,

Sadly, the 2nd film obviously had a budget that the first did not. And the results make the 2nd film look much better and stronger and it showed on screen and the results in movie theaters.

It is a difficult story to be able to connect the two films, and I kinda wish that it had not been so, but all of a sudden it's not really a revenge film as much as it is a survival film ... and for my tastes the survival part was more important and better for a story which made it bigger all around, than just an individual situation amidst a much bigger mess of a world they were in.


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 11:17
I think Paul Verhoeven's 1983 movie "De vierde man" ("The Fourth Man") should be on the list. here an English language trailer:


I like the original Dutch trailer much better:




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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 12:00
Ah, so many good options...

I'll cast my vote for Hellraiser, as it hasn't received one yet.

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Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 12:08
Hmm. Multiple votes are allowed. Anyway, for no particular reason I'll not avail myself of the opportunity.

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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 12:45
A few really good ones here and I'll be honest, I really love Blade Runner and fully expect it to sweep the lot, but my absolute favourite movie of all time is The Shinning. As much as I wish Kubrick had done a 4 hour extravaganza to really capture all the nuance of the book, I could watch it every day and never tire of it.

Side Note:  
I just watched a trailer for a redo of The Stand. I'll certainly give it a go but again, it's hard to beat the 1994 TV miniseries. A perfect casting for every part.


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 12:51
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

A few really good ones here and I'll be honest, I really love Blade Runner and fully expect it to sweep the lot, but my absolute favourite movie of all time is The Shinning. As much as I wish Kubrick had done a 4 hour extravaganza to really capture all the nuance of the book, I could watch it every day and never tire of it.

Side Note:  
I just a trailer for a redo of The Stand. I'll certainly give it a go but again, it's hard to beat the 1994 TV miniseries. A perfect casting for every part.

"Blade Runner" is in my opinion totally overrated. Yes, the dying scene of Rutger Hauer is awesome, but the rest was a disappointment when you read the novel it is based on ("Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" by Philip K. Dick).


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 13:23
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

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"Blade Runner" is in my opinion totally overrated. Yes, the dying scene of Rutger Hauer is awesome, but the rest was a disappointment when you read the novel it is based on ("Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" by Philip K. Dick).

Hi,

I have not yet read the book and it is on my list of things to get.

In general, though, I'm not sure that any Science Fiction book has EVER been done right in movies. Probably too many elements that make it different. 

The one I would like see done in film, is the one that will never get done, probably because of the freedom when it came to sex within the story ... it's the only GROK film that would be worth doing, but I think the idea is something that scares too many people and in an over populated society, this will likely be a bigger problem than the romantic notion in the novel. GROK all that, yet?

Likewise, Sir Arthur C. Clarke is not satisfying on screen either. And at least one novel would be a massive problem with many religious institutions when the "overlords" are described as something similar to our notions of what devils are!

Ray Bradbury was interesting and his one novel that Truffaut did came out OK, but still had issues with the story. I have to re-read the book and watch the movie again to define these comments better as these were a part of my first days reviewing films.


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 13:50
^ I had read "Stranger In A Strange Land" had apparently been tapped by some Hollywood producer. Possibly for a multi part release. i won't hold my breath, I only have about 20-25 years left.

Then there's "Rendezvous with Rama"


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