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Topic: Clash of the Highest-Rated King Crimson Albums
Posted By: Scorpius
Subject: Clash of the Highest-Rated King Crimson Albums
Date Posted: August 06 2018 at 21:27
Due to the popularity of the other two polls i created with this format ive decided to do another, this time with KC. for me, red beats all these out, with larks right behind, and the rest right behind that.

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 06 2018 at 21:34
I can't honestly say I prefer one over the other, except for Discipline (great album, but a little behind from the others in this list). It all depends on what I'm in the mood for, since all are different in this way, so I would give it a tie.


Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: August 06 2018 at 22:14
Hard to choose. I would say Court and Red are equally good and better than the other ones.


Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: August 06 2018 at 22:36
In the Court of the Crimson King is one of the greatest albums of all time.

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 00:15
In the Court for me (I believe it will win). I think it will be Red, but Providence weaks other very strong entity. No bad song in Court.
 
Really love all the Crimson seventies albums, others not bad too, but just don´t achieve the greatness of those seventies albums.


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 02:23
RED today. Lark is one of the best album ever...! but today is a RED day for me...


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 02:25
Of these: Itchycock, though it is not my overall favourite KC album. It hard to tell which is better: Red, LTiA or Lizard, but I favour all three of these over Discipline.

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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 02:30
Red > Court > Larks > Lizard > Discipline. The first two are practically level-pegging though.

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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 05:36
Can't choose. It could be either Red, In the Court, or Larks' on any given day...

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 05:42
No vote. Depends on my mood . . .


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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 06:02
Originally posted by DarkTower DarkTower wrote:

Hard to choose. I would say Court and Red are equally good and better than the other ones.
Exactly.

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 06:26
LTiA > Red > Court > Lizard > Discipline

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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 08:30
LTIA followed by Red


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 08:45
1) ITCOTCK (on many days, I'd put Lizard at #1 & Court at #2...today Court get's the vote)
2) Lizard (took a long time to fully appreciate this album...now it's the one I listen to the most)
3) Larks (much prefer the '74 live versions of these songs)
4) Red (Providence is a boat anchor...should have chosen one of the better '74 improvs like "The Golden Walnut" or "Is There Life Out There?"
5) Discipline has it's moments, but is far behind the rest...


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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 09:18
In the Court


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 09:20
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I can't honestly say I prefer one over the other, except for Discipline (great album, but a little behind from the others in this list). It all depends on what I'm in the mood for, since all are different in this way, so I would give it a tie.
That's exactly how I feel about these.

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Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 09:21
Larks
Discipline
Court
Lizard
Red



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 09:55
Lizard
Larks & Court
Red
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Discipline
 
 


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 10:43
As always with KC album polls: Red

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 10:49
ITCOTCK.....will always be my personal favorite by KC (probably the album that set me on the prog path in spring of 1970., even though overall Red and LTIA are 'better' albums .



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 11:05
They're all great but Discipline for me always was more than just an excellent album; when it came out it was a revelation; MY sound, MY music, MY kind of album. It may have something to do with the fact that it hit me at the right time, aged 14 or 15 when just building up a proper taste of my own, but anyway, this album (and to a slightly lesser extent the rest of the early 80s trilogy) has never failed to move me and chances are it never will (I'm very curious how it'll be listen to this at the age of 80 or so).


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 11:19
ITCOTCK and then Red.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 12:09
My preference depends on my mood, but right now this is my ranking:

1. Lizard
2. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
3. Red
4. In the Court of the Crimson King
5. Discipline

Come to think of it, while I voted Lizard, I most feel like playing Red right now as it's been a while since I last listened to it.   Lizard and Islands have received the most play-time from me over the last few years.

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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 13:00
1- LTiA
2- Lizard
3- ItCotCK
4- Red
5- Discipline

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 14:59
Whew, tough poll. Red is my fave Wetton KC record. But Discipline has too few votes, so I'm throwing one there. I LOVE the '80s KC 4tet of Belew, Bruford, Fripp, Levin.

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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 15:49
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

They're all great but Discipline for me always was more than just an excellent album; when it came out it was a revelation; MY sound, MY music, MY kind of album. It may have something to do with the fact that it hit me at the right time, aged 14 or 15 when just building up a proper taste of my own, but anyway, this album (and to a slightly lesser extent the rest of the early 80s trilogy) has never failed to move me and chances are it never will (I'm very curious how it'll be listen to this at the age of 80 or so).

It's pretty much how I'd describe my experience with, er, Yes' 90125, but Discipline isn't far. Every time I get back to Elephant Talk... Frame by Frame... MMMMMMMHHH

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Providence is a boat anchor

Hwwshhhh... !

All I can do to "defend" is describe my trip on it :

Gentling in a large underground dark hall (violin...), then some unexpected metal squeaks (Bruford having fun with rubbing cymbals [EDIT actually that's what me might have expected for rendering metallic moods but only at 3'36 isn't it]), like someone use steel doors or steering wheels [and bike spokes hita a decelerating rythm by a stick light element]. Bass larsen [+guitar harmonic resonances]= quickly melting metal, suggesting the hall might be a kind of furnace, violin imitates voice tones similar to Jack Nicholson calling Danny in Shining = some agile malevolent entity; afterthat it's like being a prey surrounded by  chasers digging galleries swelling all around corridors. One must have borrowed a vehicle because at 6'51 it feels like a plane quick turn like  https://youtu.be/3pvzA6-tSqE?t=64 ( thrillng carrousel feel ) but pilot in a critical situation with wounds of boiling bleed, before 7'20 the vehicle lands in a secure place.

Maybe you find that kind of trip (pre-)teenage or silly or something. 


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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 16:52
I would have put 'Starless and Bible Black' and 'In the Wake of Poseidon' in there.


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 17:33
Originally posted by jayem jayem wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Providence is a boat anchor

Hwwshhhh... !

All I can do to "defend" is describe my trip on it : 

Gentling in a large underground dark hall (violin...), then some unexpected metal squeaks (bruford having fun with rubbing cymbals), like someone use steel doors or steering wheels. Bass larsen = quickly melting metal, suggesting the hall might be a kind of furnace, violin imitates voice tones similar to Jack Nicholson calling Danny in Shining = some agile malevolent entity; afterthat it's like being a prey surrounded by  chasers digging galleries swelling all around corridors. One must have borrowed a vehicle because at 6'51 it feels like a plane quick turn like  https://youtu.be/3pvzA6-tSqE?t=64 ( thrillng carrousel feel ) but pilot in a critical situation with wounds of boiling bleed, before 7'20 the vehicle lands in a secure place.

Maybe you find that kind of trip (pre-)teenage or silly or something. 

Not silly at all!  The fact that you've listened to Providence enough to create such great images from the piece is quite impressive Clap  

My point was that I prefer several of the other '74 tour improv's much more Wink


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 18:15
I like some of the songs on all these albums but to be honest Discipline and the 80's line up interested me the most---they reinvented themselves in the 80's  in a truly prog way without going commercial like Yes.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 19:38
Red is at the top and gets the vote.  If "Thrak" was on the list, it would be a close 2nd, but it all depends on the day.  After that it's:
 
LTiA
ItCotCK
Discipline
Lizard
 
But that order depends on the day too.  So hard to choose the best from my favorite band.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 07 2018 at 21:37
Court for me, though for me the contest is between that one, Larks Tongues, and Red. I guess the only one that can get near that trio of album from them would be The Power to Believe.


Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: August 08 2018 at 06:39
Definitely for me:
 
Red
Larks
ITCOTCK
Discipline
Lizard
 
I regard Lizard as a very good album, but not on the same level as the other four


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Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: August 08 2018 at 09:39
For me, it's a virtual tie among all of them except for Court.  I went with Lizard only because it deserves more love in this poll.


Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: August 08 2018 at 11:26
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

I like some of the songs on all these albums but to be honest Discipline and the 80's line up interested me the most---they reinvented themselves in the 80's  in a truly prog way without going commercial like Yes.
 
You're absolutely spot on with this comment, and it's why Discipline ranks for me as one of their four best albums


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Posted By: For Nobody's Bush
Date Posted: August 08 2018 at 18:16
Wow, I must be some sort of KC minority. Starless would be 1st, followed by Larks, then Lizard/Wake/Islands, then Red. The Thraks and Vrooms I cannot differentiate from but they are all great, too. And don't forget The Power To Believe. Anything left out is worth a listen, also.


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: August 08 2018 at 20:57
It may be cliche, but I went with Court.  But really, how does one decide.  This is an incredible lineup.   I'm always hearing something new each time I listen to any of these albums.  It often seems that I often change my mind and the one I think is the best is the one I'm listening to at that moment.  


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: August 09 2018 at 08:22
Larks' Tongues In Aspic!!!

For sure.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 10 2018 at 06:53
I like Court and Red (Starless is my fave KC song period) but Lizard has a special vibe to it that makes it stand out from other albums. To me it's got a sorta fairytale-ish feel with Tippett's smeary piano, the horns and everything. Oh and I love the title suite. Jon Anderson's la la la's, the Bolero jazz section and the soulful battle sequence are done with such elegance and tastefulness.

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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: August 13 2018 at 09:19
All five are great and at some point they have been my favorite. I'll give Discipline some love today. 

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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: August 13 2018 at 11:19
In the Court for me

then either  Red  or  LTIA


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 15:59
Lizard 

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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: August 14 2018 at 18:18
All 4/5 stars albums, but it's Lizard just over Larks for me.


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: September 02 2018 at 21:49
Larks' Tongues in Aspic

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 03 2018 at 08:57
Red is probably my overall favourite, but these albums are all so different, and some days I'd much rather listen to Lizard or ITWOP. Depends on the mood.

I' guess I'll vote Red.

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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: September 04 2018 at 06:03
Going with Red, but Larks is not far behind

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Posted By: lostrom
Date Posted: September 05 2018 at 20:24
Islands is my favourite but of those, Red

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Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: September 15 2018 at 07:06
Lizard man... But I dont know if I wouldnt have picked starless and bible instead. But anyways pretty much what I think is the essence of what I love about prog.


Posted By: David64T
Date Posted: September 17 2018 at 03:50
Itchy for me - now running most appropriately at a 3 way tie...

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 20 2018 at 02:28
These are all essentially my top KC choices...but I have to give it to Lark's Tongue.

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 20 2018 at 21:35
Lark's Tongues in Aspic

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Posted By: CristauxFeur
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 20:57
ITCOCK because I prefer Symphonic Prog to Experimental prog but the others are also great.

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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 31 2018 at 10:59
How did I not see this thread back in August? It's RED, baby! It goes to show how much talent this version of Crimso' had in its collective little finger.

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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 31 2018 at 11:05
Lizard, as usual.


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 20 2020 at 12:31
Red

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