Ceux Du Dehors is all-time favorite album.

Toss up between UZ and KC for me.

I'll go te former this time. 

Oh god help me, too hard, Discipline, Drama, Duke, Defector, basically any record that started with 'D' .   Not to mention the two greatest Rush albums, like ever, dude.

voted Drama mostly because Crimson was taking a bit from David Byrne.   Otherwise, Discipline all the way, thing blew my and every other musician's mind.

Now that's a list! 

Unless I can vote for everything, I can't vote. LOL

'80-81 are two crazy, intense years for prog, metal, AND jazz-fusion. Really. Tangerine Dream, Saga, Gamma, Twelfth Night, Al Di Meola, etc., also released some of their best material in that small window.

In your top ten?

What metal do you like from that year? Those years I should have said.

Slipped through the cracks(and my mind) otherwise I would have mentioned it.

Votes UZ (would voted for Art Zoyd) too of course and have pretty much all those mentioned among my favorites + for me there's also

The Residents - Mark of the Mole
The John Renbourn Group - The Enchanted Garden
Fabio Frizzi - L'aldilà
Kraftwerk - Computerwelt

ELO - Time

Rahmann - Rahmann

Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget
Noa - Noa

Moving Pictures gets my vote. 

Some others:

Camel - Nude

Saga - Worlds Apart

Eider Stellaire I

#1, top of the heap.

Torn between Yes and either of the Rush albums.

Went with Drama for today's mood.

Prog:

Peter Hammill: Black Box

Peter Gabriel: III

(I like them more than Discipline or Rush's two album, which anyway are very good)

Rock:

Springsteen - The River

Clash - Sandinista

Dire Straits - Making Movies

Lennon - Double Fantasy

Italian Songwriters:

- Bennato - Sono solo Canzonette

also really like  'A'   by JT

Angel Witch – Angel Witch (1980) 

Black Sabbath – Heaven and Hell (1980); Mob Rules (1981)

Blue Oyster Cult – Cultosaurus Erectus (1980); Fire of Unknown Origin (1981)

Def Leppard – High 'N Dry (1981)

Judas Priest – Point of Entry (1981)

Motorhead – Ace of Spades (1980)

Praying Mantis – Time Tells No Lies (1981)

Saxon – Denim and Leather (1981)

Thin Lizzy – Chinatown (1980); Renegade (1981)

Tygers of Pan Tang – Spellbound (1981)

Van Halen – Fair Warning (1981)

I'm editing this post later after I remember something I forgot, lol.

Yes, I second this.

Interesting that you left off a few rather obvious ones. In particular I'm referring to killers and the same titled debut by Iron Maiden and British Steel by Judas Priest. Also, the first two Ozzy solo albums. Good list though(despite the fact I don't consider BOC or VH to be metal) and I'm not familiar with all of them so I'll keep those in mind.

the one and only.. the single greatest speaker blowing album ever..  Micky tested .. Micky approved...

A list that most of us have never listened to? Instead of voting for our same favorites every day?

And I third it ... this is an excellent album and then some!

You know it... though I admit I'm a bigger Diary fan.   God what a run he had with Randy, one of the best metal acts ever.

two great ones, do you have the AngelWitch remasters? 

verslibre wrote: There's at least three.I'm edit this post later after I remember something I forgot, lol.

Raven  Rock until You Drop

^ Sure--  I mean I don't think there's much doubt Diary was "better" in the sense that it was more developed musically and had a better mix, but that debut is absolutely classic.   They practically saved metal.

Done.   I'll meet you in downtown Portland, best eating & drinking city west of N'Orleans.

saved metal? how or from what? 

Erectus has some heavy tunes, as does Fair Warning. But they're not "metal" like Priest or Maiden, no. Speaking of, the reason I didn't mention those others, like Ozzy's first two, is because I don't rank them as most do. I far prefer Dio-Sabbath, and IMO Maiden got better after PoM and then peaked with SiT and 7Soa7S. 

But yes, I should have put Point of Entry in there. That's a classic. And while they didn't come out till '82 and '83, respectively, Mama's Boys' Plug It In and Savage's Loose 'N Lethal each deserve mention.

Just the Sanctuary edition.  

Raven  Rock until You Drop

 

Nice! I need to hear more by these guys. I have Raw Tracks. 

2. Discipline

3. Duke

Some favourites from 1980

Bauhaus - In The Flat Field 

Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell

Bruce - The River

Cabaret Voltaire - Three Mantras

DAF - Die Kleinen Und Die Bösen

Dire Straits - Making Movies

Fad Gadget - Fireside Favourites

Gary Numan - Telekon

Japan - Gentlemen Take Polaroids

Gerry Rafferty - Snakes and Ladders

Gillan - Glory Road

Girlschool - Demolition

Hazel O'Connor - Breaking Glass

John Foxx - Metamatic

Justin Hayward - Night Flight

Madness - Absolutely

Magnum - Marauder

OMD - OMD; - Organisation

Ozzy - Blizzard of Ozz

Mike Batt - Waves

Motorhead - Ace of Spades

Neil - Hawks & Doves

Pretenders - Pretenders

Saxon - Wheels of Steel; - Strong Arm of the Law 

Simple Minds- Empires And Dance

Siouxsie And The Banshees - Kaleidoscope

Squeeze - Argybargy

The Cure - Boys Don't Cry;  - Seventeen Seconds 

The Damned - The Black Album

The Human League - Travelogue

The Undertones - Hypnotised

Tygers of Pan Tang - Wild Cat

U2 - Boy

Ultravox - Vienna 

Visage - Visage

Whitesnake - Ready an' Willing

XTC - Black Sea

 

Some favourites from 1981

Accept - Breaker

Anvil - Hard n Heavy

Bauhaus - Mask

Cabaret Voltaire - Red Mecca

Clannad - Fuaim

Classix Nouveaux - Night People

DAF - Alles ist Gut; - Gold und Liebe

Depeche Mode - Speak & Spell

Duran Duran - Duran Duran

Girlschool - Hit and Run

Hazel O'Connor - Cover Plus

Heaven 17 - Penthouse & Pavement

Icehouse - Icehouse

Japan - Tin Drum

John Foxx - The Garden

Kraftwerk - Computer World

Lene Lovich - New Toy

Lustans Lakejer - Lustans Lakejer; - Uppdrag i Geneve

Toyah - Anthem

Ultravox - Rage in Eden

U2 - October

Whitesnake - Come An' Get It

Xmal Deutschland - Schwarze Welt

 1. Moving Pictures

 2. Drama

 3 Permanent Waves

 4. Duke

 5. Discipline 

 The rest

Well, I didn't think you were going for a complete list of NWOBH or metal in general. Obviously there's lot's of good ones out there. Isn't PoE by Priest rated rather low usually? Do you prefer it over British Steel or SfV? Oops, I guess we are talking 80/81 here. As for IM NotB is usually rated as their best or PoM. I guess you don't follow the consensus which is good. It's always good to make up your own mind about things. 

Voted Other. My choice would have been Remain in Light by Talking Heads.

But I really like Scary Monsters and Discipline too.

Other favourites:

The Clash: Sandinista

The Police: Zenyatta Mondatta

David Byrne and Brian Eno: My Life In the Bush of Ghosts

C.V. Jørgensen: Tidens tern (Danish "lyric rock")

With Scary Monsters, Duke and Permanent Waves very close behind.

verslibre wrote: Atavachron wrote: verslibre wrote: Angel Witch – Angel Witch (1980) Van Halen – Fair Warning (1981) two great ones, do you have the AngelWitch remasters? Just the Sanctuary edition.  Raven  Rock until You Drop Nice! I need to hear more by these guys. I have Raw Tracks.

They were a rough bunch, very raw sound, not progressive like the Witch or Maiden.  But a great band of bros.

Really? Well, here is the listing for the ratings of the first several JP albums from the rate your music website:

Rockarolla -3.11

Sad Wings of Destiny -3.92

Sin After Sin -3.73

Stained Class – 3.90

Killing Machine -3.68

British Steel -3.73

Point of Entry – 3.12

Screaming for Vengeance – 3.91

Defenders of the Faith -3.90

And from metal music archives:

Rocka Rolla – 3.57

Sad Wings of Destiny – 4.47

Sin After Sin – 3.90

Stained Class - 4.10

Killing Machine – 3.86

British Steel – 3.96

Point of Entry – 2.97

Screaming For Vengeance -4.16

Defenders of the Faith -4.02

As you can see "Point of Entry" is one of their lower rated and regarded albums. I know some people like it but the consensus shows it's not one of their better ones. British Steel is rated higher. So I guess BS has use for others and not you and so much for PoE being highly regarded. ;) 

I agree with you!

And then, after all, the beauty of Prog Polls is to compare only SOME (not ALL) groups or album.

Yeah, but it's a different story when some people list every album from this time period regardless of whether it is prog or not. I don't feel like I should have to explain that this is a poll for prog bands but unfortunately I felt the need to edit the title to reflect that. Just being on a prog forum(ie not non prog) on a prog site isn't good enough I guess. 

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: As you can see "Point of Entry" is one of their lower rated and regarded albums. I know some people like it but the consensus shows it's not one of their better ones. British Steel is rated higher. So I guess BS has use for others and not you and so much for PoE being highly regarded. ;)

From personal experience (3+ decades), PoE is regarded as "classic Priest" and is one of their best albums. For example, if you go look at Amazon's page for the 2014 CD reissue (not other editions, vinyl or box sets), you'll see 86% of the user reviews have it at 4- and 5- stars. That's based on roughly 150 ratings/reviews, more than twice as many on MMA.

If you look at the reviews on MMA, some guys rate it lower because some songs charted, and one guys feels it's more "hard rock" than "heavy metal." Subjective, of course. I'm sure "Don't Go" turned some fans off, too. I see Trane gave it a low rating, too, which is funny because he generally doesn't seem to like metal. 

I wasn't aware you were trying to turn this into some kind of competition. JP aren't even in my favorite 50 metal bands, to be honest. I like many other bands ahead of them.

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Yeah, I could have listed the Police, the Cure, U2 and others but there's only one problem with that. Who can figure out what it would be? Hint. What is the name of this forum not to mention website? :P

 

I can help you with one band. File U2 under "crapola"! 

some examples

Eloy : Colours and Planets

Anyone's Daughter: s/t

Pererin: Teithgan

Camel:  I can see your house from here and Nude

Runrig: Recovery

Clannad:  Fuaim

Mike Oldfield: QE2

Moving Hearts: s/t

Novalis - Augenblicke

No, just disagreeing with you about what is considered popular for JP. British Steel had two of their biggest hits in "living after midnight" and "breaking the law" as well as "united" which is a very good song. As I pointed out it's rated higher than PoE on those two sites. PoE AGAIN is not considered one of their better albums from that time period. How many other sites do I have to pull up. You don't get it. It's rated and ranked lower than BS despite what you said on BOTH sites! Not at the very bottom but towards the bottom here: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/judas-priest-albums-ranked/ Toward the middle of the pack here. https://www.loudersound.com/features/every-judas-priest-album-ranked-from-worst-to-best Number 24 on this list. Ok, on this list it's ranked 9 which isn't too bad but look what number one is. :P https://metalnation.com/ranking-judas-priest-first-to-worst-the-studio-albums/

But it's cool though. Relayer is probably my favorite Yes album even though it's usually ranked fourth or fifth by fans.

One of the best and most important bands from the past 35 years or so. Saw them last year and they were great. 

I'm sure there's something we can agree on. Maybe.  

I can see your house from here was 79. Camel didn't release an album in 80. Nude was in 81 though so I could have included that but it slipped through the cracks.

It's okay for you to disagree. If everyone agreed, the world would be a boring place.

When I said "I have little use for," that wasn't for you, that meant ME. I don't care for that album overall, and "Living After Midnight" and "Breaking the Law" bore me. If you also think Rotten Tomatoes is the ultimate guide to "good" and "bad" cinema, that further proves how misleading ratings sites can be (especially when you're looking at sites with ratings entered by fewer than 500 people worldwide, lol).

By ALL means, pull up more sites. It won't change my opinion(s). 

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: One of the best and most important bands from the past 35 years or so.

 

Where album sales are concerned, sure. 

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: I edited my above post to add more lists of Judas Priest albums. Check them out(especially if you want to continue arguing). :)

 

I guess that's where you became confused. I was never "arguing." 

I like some pop music. Not big into pop over all but some bands I think are good. U2 are one of the founders of alternative rock imo. They aren't one of my very, very favorite bands but I like them a lot. I'll admit part of it might have to do with my age. I was a teenager when they started to get really huge and decided to see what the fuss was about. I became a fan. I also like other bands from that era such as REM and Def Leppard. So sue me. :P 

Yeah, they had huge album sales too but more importantly huge concert attendances. They hold the record for largest stadium single band shows. Sure some stuff that is really super popular is crap but I happen to think U2 are a good band. Not prog though. I'm not someone who equates prog with only bands they like. :P 

Then you aren't doing it right.  

Same here. We're both fortysomethings, then. I simply don't like how U2 became the totem for "Irish rock" at the expense of Thin Lizzy and Horslips.

Most people here don't do that, either. 

Things are obviously black-and-white with you. I stated my opinions. But for argument's sake, you could pull up 100 sites to assert your prognosis that British Steel is a "better" album than Point of Entry, and it won't diminish the latter's status as "classic Priest" one iota, nor will it make your assessment of the former any less subjective. 

I guess we are. I'll be pushing 50 pretty soon too(if I'm technically not already). We both possibly got into prog at a really weird time too(the 80's). How many other people first heard Larks tongues in Aspic when their neighbors were probably listening to Wham and Madonna or Licensed to Ill. :P  
 

And that's not arguing? It's classic era Priest but so is British Steel. Maybe in your opinion British Steel isn't "classic priest" but all those websites with ratings and rankings prove otherwise. 

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: I guess we are. I'll be pushing 50 pretty soon too(if I'm technically not already). We both possibly got into prog at a really weird time too(the 80's). How many other people first heard Larks tongues in Aspic when their neighbors were probably listening to Wham and Madonna or Licensed to Ill. :P

 

I'll see your Crimson and raise you a Tangerine Dream, who I knew only via a film soundtrack (The Keep), their relevance as a progressive band only becoming apparent through meeting a guy in high school who was a fresh transfer from a few states away. I went to a rather large high school, and I wager fewer than 1% of the student body probably knew who or what a "Tangerine Dream" was. But we sure as hell tried to educate everyone.

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: And that's not arguing? It's classic era Priest but so is British Steel. Maybe in your opinion British Steel isn't "classic priest" but all those websites with ratings and rankings prove otherwise.

 

I never said that. 

Ok, fair enough. You did say you didn't like it though. That's cool. 90125 isn't my favorite Yes record even though it's the one that got me into them in the first place. We all have our favorites and yes it would be boring if we all liked the same thing. Nothing to fight about. 

Affirmative. Now who's not "arguing right"? 

Again, ditto. But it's held up a lot better than Talk, believe me.  

That's pretty low. You could be right. However, TD did a lot of soundtrack stuff in the 80's and even got a mention in a SNL skit. Also, when I went to to a festival in the late 80's that featured Springsteen, Sting and Peter Gabriel I distinctly remember seeing an attendee there wearing a Tangerine Dream t shirt. I was well into this stuff by then and that's something that you don't forget.  

Not to me. I actually prefer talk(if mainly for Endless Dream). Then again I don't see it as a genuine Yes album in some ways. It should have been a Cinema album but once they got Jon on board they couldn't call it anything else. 

Yes, even I have to take a break from arguing. ;) I don't argue for the sake of arguing. Only when I disagree with someone. :P 

No doubt he attended the '88 Tower Theater gig in Philly. 

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/vitn_concerts.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/vitn_concerts.htm

Could be. It was in 88 so you could be right. There were prog fans around back then but most people didn't know the underground stuff. I read rock books and found magazines that had listings for prog catalogs so I probably discovered stuff that many prog fans didn't know about until the internet. Also, I remember seeing a guy wearing a Fripp or League of Gentleman t shirt at a Al Dimeola and John Mclaughlin concert in 1989 in NYC and in 95 when I saw King Crimson at the Tower I saw a guy wearing an Ozric Tentacles t shirt. So there's always been people who find the "good stuff."

Pre-Net, I had to rely on word of mouth, Wayside Music's catalog and the UK zine Audion, along with the odd mention or review in mags like Keyboard and Musician. The latter had the funniest, and shortest, review I've ever seen; it was for Big Generator — "Just say no."

How come you never bump any of my old polls?