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VdGG - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other

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Topic: VdGG - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other
Posted By: Logan
Subject: VdGG - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 16:21
So, another Van der Graaf Generator poll. I'm going with "Darkness".

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"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views..." (Doctor Who "The Face of Evil" 1977).



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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 16:28
Yes! Another VDGG thread; I'm not the only one this week LOL Clap

Darkness gets my vote.


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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 16:49
Brutal choice.  I love all of them about equally, but I'll have to go with White Hammer.  Every time I hear Hugh's church organ coupled with those lyrics I feel like I'm back in 1486 seeing it happen.  And that ending section...VDGG invented death/doom metal and didn't need distorted guitars Evil Smile


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 16:57
Tough choice. 

Ill go with White Hammer today, but could of easly been Darkness or After The Flood 


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Posted By: Kempokid
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 17:37
Darkness has such a great saxophone element to it, I'd probably go with that


Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 19:17
Super tough, but After the Flood is epic and apocalyptic, getting my vote. Love this album.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 20:41
When I decided to get into VDGG, I ordered their best rated albums all at once, without having heard their music previously. The first album I put was this, and of course the first track was Darkness. If it hadn't been for this being the first song I heard from them, I might have given up with them all too soon, but I really loved this song and it was the hook I needed to keep on listening to the band until it clicked. It remains one of my favourites from the band.


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 02:57
This was a tough choice, but I decided to give my vote to After the Flood.
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 08:34
Very hard to choose, and after a lot of thinking, I'll go with After the Flood, but I love the whole album.


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 11:13
Just listened to the album (once again) on headphones last night and want to say Nic Potter's bass lines are a huge reason this album is so great (his playing on "Refugees" is especially brilliant).  I know there's a recent thread about most underappreciated guitarists, but if there was a similar thread for bassists I'd put Nic at the top...and Hugh at the top of most underappreciated keyboardists Wink

Pawn Hearts is my fave VDGG album, but followed very closely by The Least...both amazing albums.



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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 15:35
White Hammer 🔨


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 19:55
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Just listened to the album (once again) on headphones last night and want to say Nic Potter's bass lines are a huge reason this album is so great (his playing on "Refugees" is especially brilliant).  I know there's a recent thread about most underappreciated guitarists, but if there was a similar thread for bassists I'd put Nic at the top...and Hugh at the top of most underappreciated keyboardists Wink

Pawn Hearts is my fave VDGG album, but followed very closely by The Least...both amazing albums.



Indeed I wish Nic Potter would have stayed with the band longer. His bass playing really sounds beautiful on this album, and is missed in the later albums.


Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 20:11
Very Tough choice.

Voted After The Flood


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 27 2019 at 09:37
Hmmm Darkness, Hammer and Flood...all brilliant.

but it has to be Refugees.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: January 27 2019 at 13:18
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Just listened to the album (once again) on headphones last night and want to say Nic Potter's bass lines are a huge reason this album is so great (his playing on "Refugees" is especially brilliant).  I know there's a recent thread about most underappreciated guitarists, but if there was a similar thread for bassists I'd put Nic at the top...and Hugh at the top of most underappreciated keyboardists Wink

Pawn Hearts is my fave VDGG album, but followed very closely by The Least...both amazing albums.



Indeed I wish Nic Potter would have stayed with the band longer. His bass playing really sounds beautiful on this album, and is missed in the later albums.


I'm torn on this...I love Nic's style on the 1st 3 albums, but I can't argue with perfection as Pawn Hearts (my fave VDGG album, not to mention fave prog album of all time) credits Hugh on bass guitar.  Too bad there isn't an alternate universe where Nic stayed with the band and played on Pawn Hearts, I'd love to hear how different it would have turned out Wink 

According to his wiki page Nic left during the recording of H to He after playing on Killer, Emperor & Lost.  Hugh took over bass guitar on the rest of the album and played the bass parts on bass pedals for the tour.


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 27 2019 at 16:31
Hugh’s organ work is second to none on this outing - a mighty Farfisa.


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: January 27 2019 at 16:36
I've never heard this album. I've only ever heard H to He, Pawn Hearts and Godbluff.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: January 27 2019 at 23:53
Darkness (11/11) is incredible in its eerie, slowly building, kind of floating progression. I think it share similarities with Plague... + while I don't think Peter Hammill wrote really memorable lyrics before 1973/1974 this is among his best from his "teen angst" years (I find his youthful Emo-doom & gloom of 1969-1971 enjoyable for what it is though).


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 28 2019 at 04:15
Malleus M. just over 11/11.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: January 28 2019 at 19:06
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

(I find his youthful Emo-doom & gloom of 1969-1971 enjoyable for what it is though).

I always refer to PH as the Master of Disaster Wink


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 28 2019 at 21:55
slight edge to White Hammer over Darkness (11/11)

good album..  and to these ears far more enjoyable and listenable than most all of their later albums where they well earned their moniker as the fathers of mediocre prog.


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 09:15
(their later albums) just as interesting musically but much more intense emotionally, definitely not for the faint-hearted.

Even now you need to be reminded
that La Belle Dame is without mercy.

The lady with her skin so white
you never did quite catch her name
now she holds you in the night
and she'll never let go again,
she'll never let go again!

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 10:14
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

slight edge to White Hammer over Darkness (11/11)

good album..  and to these ears far more enjoyable and listenable than most all of their later albums where they well earned their moniker as the fathers of mediocre prog.


While I cannot find/ hear fault in H to He... or Pawn Hearts (the other two of what I consider to be a classic trilogy) and truly love those albums, The Least We Can Do... is my favourite VdGG album. It is rather more restrained than subsequent albums, and I like the variety of songs on it (it has eclectic qualities that appeal to me). Some might well consider it to be a more mediocre album than subsequent ones as it might be seen to be more subdued, and less out-there (it was an adventurous album for VdGG, especially historically-speaking).

Is that a moniker you made up? I would be wont to think that Genesis, and Yes, would be much more likely to hold the "fathers of mediocre" prog title really, in the way I would approach it, due to the influence on other bands. I guess if I were to choose one as the father of non-mediocre Prog, then I might go with Magma even if it has influenced some mediocre acts.

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"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views..." (Doctor Who "The Face of Evil" 1977).


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 11:25
Think he refers to Godbluff, Still Life and World record.

That claim makes absolutely no sense to me but to each his own metaphor.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 17:16
White Hammer.

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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 18:24
After the Flood all the way.  This is VDGG almost at their finest!


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Posted By: HAL 9000
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 06:57
"White Hammer" with the insane final section - outstanding!


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 13 2019 at 18:45
Out of My Book is very nice and deserves a vote... despite the fact that actually Darkness is the best.
I never got Refugees though, could very happily live without that.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 13 2019 at 18:50
White Hammer is definitely my favorite this week.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 13 2019 at 21:35
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Out of My Book is very nice and deserves a vote... despite the fact that actually Darkness is the best.
I never got Refugees though, could very happily live without that.
Refugees is a beautiful track - the longer version.


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 16 2019 at 06:54
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

So, another Van der Graaf Generator poll. I'm going with "Darkness".
 

Thumbs Up


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