The Soft Machine vs. The Aerosol Grey Machine
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Topic: The Soft Machine vs. The Aerosol Grey Machine
Posted By: Logan
Subject: The Soft Machine vs. The Aerosol Grey Machine
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 11:47
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Welcome my friends, welcome to the machine, the Man-Machine one might add. I'm keeping this short, if sweet, that may be debatable. Anyhow, which of the debuts (even if that is debatable) in the poll do you enjoy the most? I like both, but The Soft Machine is my preference. EDIT: Even in short posts I still manage typos. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 11:50
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That's a very nice and interesting match, and I have to think about it for a while. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 12:01
| Very close, but my vote goes to The Soft Machine. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 12:13
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Both pretty good. Aerosol ------------- |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 12:39
| Vdgg for me |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 13:26
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Like both, but my vote's gotta go the Softs. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 14:28
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VdGG ------------- "Happiness is real only when shared" |
Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 14:34
| I love VdGG, but for me it isn't close. Soft Machine is utterly iconic. One of my 10 favorite albums of all time. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: February 17 2019 at 23:07
| Difficult to go past the Soft Machine, but both good. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 18 2019 at 00:23
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I rarely listen to any of these but I like them. Its not original to consider both to peak artistically a little later. As a full album Aerosol isn't all that but the highlights are wonderful and it does show great promise. The Soft Machine however is hugely successful at being the loose, free spirited, unpretentious and fun jazzed psychrock-band they were in 1968. As different as the Softs were in 68, 69 and 70 - I never get the feeling of "transitional albums". So as indifferent to "but is it prog?" - a nice protoprog debut up against a swinging sixties psychedelic-classic the latter gets my vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 18 2019 at 01:45
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VDGG ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: February 18 2019 at 09:09
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I read what other's have said. And this will probably make people mad, but I never liked Peter Hammill's voice. I also revere Soft Machine as one of the founders of Canterbury, Jazz/Rock/Prog hybrid music I have grown to love so much. Beyond a doubt, Soft Machine gets my vote. Not even a contest here. ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 18 2019 at 09:38
This. The VdGG album sounds like a step on the way to something great, whereas the Soft Machine album is already a full character on its own. That said, a few tracks on Aerosol are really great.
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Saperlipopette! wrote:Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: February 18 2019 at 10:04
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Probably Soft Machine, for the very same reasons that Saperlipopette mentioned, not to mentioned of the very best "organ trio" albums. Aerosol is also nice. Not quite as good as their later albums, but a good start, nonetheless. ------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 18 2019 at 10:27
It shouldn't make people mad, especially as you spelled his name right and you don't sound like you're insulting those who enjoy his vocals or using hyperbole to express your feelings (so many haters spell his name wrong). I used to say that Hammill's hammy vocals make me ill, which would usually get a clappy from someone despite not being very witty.  I disliked Hammill's "histrionics" as I saw it, and some of his more overt theatricality, but still loved songs such as "House With No Door", "Refugeees" and "Out of My Book" early on. His vocals grew on me over time, but it took some time, and I wouldn't expect it to grow on others (with some the problem is about his most shouty parts, with others it's the whole package). I have suggested to some who have expressed utter contempt, ridicule and hatred towards VdGG (of which i would not include you based on such a post at all) because of Hammill's vocals to stick to the instrumentals such as Theme One, Boleas Panic, Vulcan Meld. Double Bass, and in keeping with this topic, "Black Smoke Yen" (not that such a but 1 minute and 18 seconds piece of music would sway people). Anyway, while I enjoy VdGG with and without vocals, and I like the debut considerably, Soft Machine's debut is certainly stronger and more "already there" for me. Third is my favourite Soft Machine album followed by the second. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: February 18 2019 at 12:42
| Whereas the best Soft Machine albums (in my opinion) were the first 3 or 4 (+ their live radio recordings from 70-71), VDGG did their best work a bit later on, in the 72-76 period. Their first album is good, but not nearly as good as their later work. The first Soft Machine album really has a lot of soul. |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 21:28
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Soft Machine ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 16 2019 at 06:48
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The Soft Machine ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 17 2023 at 03:37
| Soft Machine |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 17 2023 at 04:27
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I've gone for VDGG, but I really should keep persevering with SM as at present, I can only do them in small doses... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 17 2023 at 05:06
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The Soft Machine ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: August 17 2023 at 06:24
| Another vote for Soft Machine. |