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Topic: How Our Top 25 Studio Albums Change Day After Day
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Subject: How Our Top 25 Studio Albums Change Day After Day
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 13:54
In this thread, which I hope lasts very long, I invite who is interested to write his ranking of the 25 best studio albums of all time. 

1) Live albums or compilations or proto-prog or prog-related albums are not allowed. 
We stick to the rules of the Top Studios Of All-Time of Progarchives. 

2) I Invite who is interested to meditate on their ranking, and to write the first 25 titles, according to our tastes, that change day after day, listening after listening. 
If it's possible, I invite you to write the first 25 albums, but, if you prefer, even less or more. [editing]

3) This ranking is intended to compare the rankings of each of us and see how they change with time, since in the future perhaps some absolute masterpiece of the progressive rock will arrive (we hope!) and impose itsef in the top 25 of our ranking. Moreover, by expanding our listenings, we can add masterpieces from the past that we don't know at present or have not yet listened well. 
In fact, it's clear that everyone of us at the present have not yet listened well to some masterpiece, which could, with the time, enter the Top 25 in place of another. For example, I have not yet listened in a "scientific" way much of the Canterbury Scene (Soft Machine, Gong), of Pink Floyd, of Frank Zappa, of Henry Cow, of Rush, of Art Zoyd etc. I know most of the albums of these artists, and many others, but I have not yet evaluete them. I write reviews also in order to get to a "scientific" ranking. It could also happen that some of the first titles that we now put in our first ranking, over time, we like less, and leave the ranking in a month, or a year. Anything can happen, although, I believe, each of us will have some absolute certainties on various albums or artists. 

4) Finally, I invite who wants to join this thread to discuss his choices, his changes in the rankings, and make observations about the choices of others. Let's make sure this thread is not just a list, but a stimulus to confrontation. 

Good Top 25!


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"Happiness is real only when shared"



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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:18
Sorry but I'm way too lazy for this kind of stuff nowadays.

In fact, there's only two things in life that really interest me:

1. Titties
2. and Beer.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:47
My personal ranking, 03/21/2019, Spring Is Here!

Rating 9,75/10
1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
2) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
3) The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill

Rating 9,5/10
4) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
5) In The Court Of... - King Crimson
6) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill
7) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator

Rating 9,25/10
8) Red - King Crimson
9) Music In A Doll's House - Family
10) Animals - Pink Floyd
11) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
12) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
13) Lorca - Tim Buckley
14) H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator
15) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 
16) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
17) Aqualung - Jethro Tull
18) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
19) Islands - King Crimson
20) Fearless - Family
21) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
22) For Your Pleasure - Roxy Music
23) Quatermass - Quatermass
24) Collage - Le Orme
25) Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis. 


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 14:56
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Sorry but I'm way too lazy for this kind of stuff nowadays.

In fact, there's only two things in life that really interest me:

1. Titties
2. and Beer.

Yes, I understand, I like titties, beer and... prog! Smile

I realize I expressed myself badly in English, and then I corrected the presentation message, which could be interpreted as a way to involve everyone in this thread. Now I wrote that I invite those interested, not all, to write his ranking - and, if you prefer, even less than 25 titles.


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 21 2019 at 19:00
^ Do not pay attention mate...the closer the weekend, the sillier most of my posts become.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 00:46
I can't do "best", but these are all five star out of five albums in my books. I would rather not rank them, but some of my favourites include (in no particular order -- I'm used to doing artist first):

Magma - Kobaia
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Art Zoyd - Génération sans futur
Zanov - Green Ray
Igor Wakhevitch - Docteur Faust
Franco Leprino - Integrati ... Disintegrati
Comus - First Utterance
Cos - Viva Boma
Soft Machine - Third
Jean-Claude Vannier - L'Enfant Assasin des Mouches
Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer
Dom - Edge of Time
Herbie Hancock - Crossings
Miles Davis - Big Fun
Eddie Henderson - Realisation
Julian Priester - Love, Love
Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising
Hellebore - Il y a des Jours
Anna Sjalv - Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara
Dun - Eros
Area - Caution Radiation Area
CLivage - Mixtus Orbis
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage
Rahmann - Rahmann
Vortex - Les Cycles de Thanatos
Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
Picchio dal Pozzo - self-titled
Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri
Lard Free - Unnamed
Can - Soundtracks
Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste
Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You
Embryo - Embryo's Rache

I'll stop there.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 01:22
1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP
2) Close To The Edge - Yes
3) Red - King Crimson
4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd
5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis
6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child
8) PG1 - Peter Gabriel
9) Moving Pictures - Rush
10) Animals - Pink Floyd
11) Foxtrot - Genesis
12) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant
13) Ever - IQ
14) Danger Money - UK
15) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
16) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis
17) Time To Turn - Eloy
18) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman
19) Weather Systems - Anathema
20) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer
21) UK - UK
22) Relayer - Yes
23) Force Majeure - Tangerine Dream
24) The Wake - IQ
25) Veni Vidi Vici - Par Lindh Project

.. so predictably nearly all 70's ( that will never change) , 3 from the 80's , one from the 90's , 2 from the 00's and one from the current decade.  I will never venture that far from symphonic prog but there it is. Also not much in the way of non UK artists and nothing at all in a foreign language. I am not adventurous at all but that is my personality.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 03:16
^Compared to Logan you may not come across as all that adventurous. I guess you are still more musically adventurous than about 99% of mankind, so still in the top 1 out of 100% which isn't too bad. 

Anyway, although I'm not really able to contribute I think the concept is interesting enough for me to check out if and how other members "best" will change.


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 12:36
Sally Oldfield - Water Bearer
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
Alan Sorrenti - Aria
Klaus Schulze - Timewind
Anglagard - Hybris
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink
Octobre - Les Nouvelles Terres
Talking Heads - Remain in Light
Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All
Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans
Ange - Au-delà du Délire
Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin
Kate Bush - The Dreaming
Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge
Harmonium - Les Cinq Saisons
David Sylvian - Approaching Silence



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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 13:42
I did 30. My choices are pretty mainstream compared to most people on the site but here it is. 
 (lots of Yes, Rush, Genesis, Pink Floyd , Crimson & Zappa.)

1. Moving Pictures – Rush
2. The Yes Album – Yes
3. Close to the Edge - Yes
4. Elegant Gypsy – Al Di Meola
5. Trick of the Tail – Genesis
6. Over-Nite Sensation- Frank Zappa
7. Animals – Pink Floyd
8. In Abstencia - Porcupine Tree
9. Scheherazade And Other Stories - Renaissance
10. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis
11. Permanent Waves - Rush
12. Dark side of the Moon – Pink Floyd
13. Power Windows - Rush
14. Going for the One - Yes
15. Blow by Blow – Jeff Beck
16 Selling England By The Pound - Genesis
17. Counterparts - Rush
18. Fragile – Yes
19. Larks Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson
20. Wish you Were Here – Pink Floyd
21.Hemispheres - Rush
22. Liquid Tension Experiment – (First album)
23. Red - King Crimson
24 .Drama - Yes
25. One Size Fits All - Frank Zappa
26. Misplaced Childhood-Marillion
27. Duke - Genesis 
28. Signals - Rush 
29. Apostrophe – Frank Zappa
30. Starless & Bible Black - King Crimson


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 16:36
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I can't do "best", but these are all five star out of five albums in my books. I would rather not rank them, but some of my favourites include (in no particular order -- I'm used to doing artist first):

Magma - Kobaia
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Art Zoyd - Génération sans futur
Zanov - Green Ray
Igor Wakhevitch - Docteur Faust
Franco Leprino - Integrati ... Disintegrati
Comus - First Utterance
Cos - Viva Boma
Soft Machine - Third
Jean-Claude Vannier - L'Enfant Assasin des Mouches
Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer
Dom - Edge of Time
Herbie Hancock - Crossings
Miles Davis - Big Fun
Eddie Henderson - Realisation
Julian Priester - Love, Love
Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising
Hellebore - Il y a des Jours
Anna Sjalv - Tredje - Tussilago Fanfara
Dun - Eros
Area - Caution Radiation Area
CLivage - Mixtus Orbis
Eskaton - 4 Visions
Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage
Rahmann - Rahmann
Vortex - Les Cycles de Thanatos
Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
Picchio dal Pozzo - self-titled
Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri
Lard Free - Unnamed
Can - Soundtracks
Gentle Giant - Acquiring the Taste
Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You
Embryo - Embryo's Rache

I'll stop there.

Logan, you are a mine of rare treasures to discover... I sign your list.
Magma and Comus should enter my top 25 ranking: I must finish to evaluate them...
Art Zoyd, Soft Machine, Gong, Amon Duul, Can could.


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 22 2019 at 17:08
Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

I did 30. My choices are pretty mainstream compared to most people on the site but here it is. 
 (lots of Yes, Rush, Genesis, Pink Floyd , Crimson & Zappa.)

1. Moving Pictures – Rush
2. The Yes Album – Yes
3. Close to the Edge - Yes
4. Elegant Gypsy – Al Di Meola
5. Trick of the Tail – Genesis
6. Over-Nite Sensation- Frank Zappa
7. Animals – Pink Floyd
8. In Abstencia - Porcupine Tree
9. Scheherazade And Other Stories - Renaissance
10. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis
11. Permanent Waves - Rush
12. Dark side of the Moon – Pink Floyd
13. Power Windows - Rush
14. Going for the One - Yes
15. Blow by Blow – Jeff Beck
16 Selling England By The Pound - Genesis
17. Counterparts - Rush
18. Fragile – Yes
19. Larks Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson
20. Wish you Were Here – Pink Floyd
21.Hemispheres - Rush
22. Liquid Tension Experiment – (First album)
23. Red - King Crimson
24 .Drama - Yes
25. One Size Fits All - Frank Zappa
26. Misplaced Childhood-Marillion
27. Duke - Genesis 
28. Signals - Rush 
29. Apostrophe – Frank Zappa
30. Starless & Bible Black - King Crimson

You love Yes, and Genesis, and KC... and Rush: I listen to their albums few times...
The Lamb could enter my Top 25. 


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: Jzrk
Date Posted: March 26 2019 at 20:45
Yes lists of top whatever can change or orders change in my mind quote a lot but the group remains intact mostly.
I wish Incould say I have some newer ones but no just the classics for the most part
1) Romantic Warrior Return To Forever
2) Elegant Gypsy Al Dimeola
3)Imanginary Voyage Jean Luc Ponty
4)BrainSalad Surgery ELP
5) Cross Collateral Passport
5)Aqualung Jethtro Tull
5) Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd
6) Close to The Edge Yes
7) DSOTM Pink Floyd
8) Land Of The Midnight Sun Al Dimeola
9) Thick as a brick Jethro Tull
10) Tarkus ELP
11) The Yes Album
12) Upon The Wings of Music JeannLuc Ponty
13) Spectrum Billy Cobham
14) Head Hunters Herbie Hancock
15) Jurassic Shift Ozric Tenticles
16) Herbie Mann Push Push
17) ELP EL P
18) Rush A Farewell To Kings
19) Rush Hemispheres
20) JethronTull Stand Up
21) Fragile Yes
22)Song For America Kansas
23) Leftoverature Kansas
24) Point of No Return Kansas
25) 2112 Rush
26) Masque Kansas
27) Cosmic Messanger JeannLuc Ponty
28) Hand Made Passport
29) Infinity Machine Passport
30) Stanley Clarke Stanley Clark
I know I am missing some


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 28 2019 at 16:42
Mmh. Well I do rankings and ratings but ultimately I think music is not there to be ranked and rated. I have my favourites fair enough. I have to admit that I did this long top 250 list in 2016 or so and whenever I am asked for a top 10 or top 25 or top 50 now I just look up that list, apart from occasionally checking whether some new album should enter. But then it takes a lot of time before I'd let a new album enter the top 25 or so, it has to prove itself over a long time. So my top 25 may hardly ever change but then this is not because I am so totally sure that that's the true ranking but rather because the act of ranking itself seems somewhat forced and unnatural and so having it done once I tend to use that result for a long time. Let's see whether I can mix things up a bit.

The top 10 though have to stand:
Holger Czukay - Movies
King Crimson - Discipline
Comsat Angels - Sleep No More
Kate Bush - The Dreaming
Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade
Astor Piazzolla - New Tango, Zero Hour
.O.Rang - Herd of Instinct
Sohrab - A Hidden Place
Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
Brian Eno and David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts

Five positions reserved for stuff that I don't have that long:
Pinkcourtesyphone - Description of Problem
Art Zoyd - Phase V
Dissidenten - Live in Europe
Pinback - Some Offcell Voices
Langham Research Centre - Tape Works Vol. 1

Five positions reserved for stuff that I have been listening to lately:
Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless
Joe Jackson - Blaze of Glory
Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis
Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon

Some more long term favourites:
Manfred Mann"s Earthband - Nightingales and Bombers
David Sylvian - Brilliant Trees
Startled Insects - Curse of the Pheromones
Barbara Morgenstern - The grass is always greener
Tied and Tickled Trio - Observing Systems
 


Posted By: VicRelayer
Date Posted: March 28 2019 at 20:40
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP
2) Close To The Edge - Yes
3) Red - King Crimson
4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd
5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis
6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child
8) PG1 - Peter Gabriel
9) Moving Pictures - Rush
10) Animals - Pink Floyd
11) Foxtrot - Genesis
12) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant
13) Ever - IQ
14) Danger Money - UK
15) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
16) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis
17) Time To Turn - Eloy
18) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman
19) Weather Systems - Anathema
20) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer
21) UK - UK
22) Relayer - Yes
23) Force Majeure - Tangerine Dream
24) The Wake - IQ
25) Veni Vidi Vici - Par Lindh Project

.. so predictably nearly all 70's ( that will never change) , 3 from the 80's , one from the 90's , 2 from the 00's and one from the current decade.  I will never venture that far from symphonic prog but there it is. Also not much in the way of non UK artists and nothing at all in a foreign language. I am not adventurous at all but that is my personality.

What a podium, three masterpieces!


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: March 28 2019 at 22:06
I didn't want to start a new topic so i'll ask this question here.

How in the world do the top 250 charts work?

The top 250 of all time is obviously different from the top 250 classic era charts,

however the ones on both lists appear in different orders. WHAT?!!!!

For example

Top 250

1 Close To The Edge
2 Selling England By The Pound
3 Thick As A Brick
4 Wish You Were Here

Top Classic Era 250

1 Close To The Edge
2 Selling England By The Pound
3 Wish You Were Here
4 Thick As A Brick

So why is this?

Well they have different QWR= numbers

Top 250 Close To The Edge has a QWR = 4.6498
But on Top Classic Era 250 QWR = 4.6293

Can anyone solve this mystery?

Same thing if you seach the top list of any particular subgenre.

AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!




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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 04 2019 at 07:33
This could be an interesting thread. I've made a list of my top 25 albums which has been a very worthwhile exercise, looking for those I enjoy all the way through without any tracks that spoil the work as a whole, and trying to get a bit of variety by not choosing too many from the same artist. I've stuck all these treasures on an iPod Nano to make a little collection of nothing but true masterpieces. Now I've come back to the thread though and realised a load of them are disqualified through not being listed as Progressive, and Tangerine Dream's Ricochet as officially a live album. I was surprised however to find Mort Garson classified as Progressive Electronic so maybe I just need to wait long enough until all my other artists appear on the site Wink. In the meantime though I guess it could be a good thing as it now allows me to add more to the list to get 25 qualifying albums. At the moment then my list is:

Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV
A.R. & Machines - Die Grune Reise
Art Bears - Winter Songs
Art Zoyd - Phase IV
Cluster - II
Deuter - Aum
Edgar Froese - Aqua 2005
Henry Cow - Western Culture
Magma - Kohntarkosz
Mort Garson - The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds
Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing
Soft Machine - Fifth
Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation
Tangerine Dream - What A Blast
Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors

Disqualified:
Godflesh - Songs Of Love And Hate
Gyorgy Ligeti - 1958-69
Krzysztof Penderecki - A Polish Requiem
Laibach - Kapital
Nico - The Marble Index
Poul Ruders - Solar Trilogy
Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
Young Gods - L'Eau Rouge
Young Gods - Music For Artificial Clouds

It looks like I can add another 9 then Big smile.



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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 07:36
1. Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans
2. Genesis The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
3. Yes Fragile
4. Genesis Foxtrot
5. Yes Close To The Edge
6. Jethro Tull Thick As A Brick
7. ELP Brain Salad Surgery
8. King Crimson Larks' Tongues In Aspic
9. King Crimson Red
10. Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here
11. Neal Morse Sola Scriptura
12. Neal Morse Question Mark
13. Yes Relayer
14. Rush A Farewell To Kings
15. The Yes Album
16. Genesis A Trick Of The Tail
17. King Crimson In The Court Of The Crimson King
18. Genesis Nursery Cryme
19. Gentle Giant Free Hand
20. Rush 2112
21. Gentle Giant Octopus
22. Kansas Leftoverture
23. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever
24. Kansas Kansas
25. Todd Rundgren's Utopia 


Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 08:07
My 25 progressive studio albums then are:

Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV
A.R. & Machines - Die Grune Reise
Art Bears - Winter Songs
Art Zoyd - Phase IV
Cluster - II
Deuter - Aum
Dom - Edge Of Time
Dzyan - Electric Silence
Edgar Froese - Aqua 2005
Eiliff - Eiliff
Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning
Henry Cow - Western Culture
Magma - Kohntarkosz
Mort Garson - The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds
Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing
Soft Machine - Fifth
Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri
Tangerine Dream - Atem
Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Tangerine Dream - Quantum Gate
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon
Tangerine Dream - What A Blast
Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors

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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 08:47
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

1. Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans
2. Genesis The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
3. Yes Fragile
4. Genesis Foxtrot
5. Yes Close To The Edge
6. Jethro Tull Thick As A Brick
7. ELP Brain Salad Surgery
8. King Crimson Larks' Tongues In Aspic
9. King Crimson Red
10. Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here
11. Neal Morse Sola Scriptura
12. Neal Morse Question Mark
13. Yes Relayer
14. Rush A Farewell To Kings
15. The Yes Album
16. Genesis A Trick Of The Tail
17. King Crimson In The Court Of The Crimson King
18. Genesis Nursery Cryme
19. Gentle Giant Free Hand
20. Rush 2112
21. Gentle Giant Octopus
22. Kansas Leftoverture
23. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever
24. Kansas Kansas
25. Todd Rundgren's Utopia 


I have 13 of those in my collection, Gentle Giant, KC, Yes and Genesis. I quite like them but it seems you value great musical ability most whereas unusual invention, strange sounds and atmosphere make more of an impression on me. Maybe being a non-musician has some effect although some of the parts in my selection still sound amazingly difficult.

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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 09:09
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:


Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile


Oh I didn’t realise NiN was Progressive . I’ll give it a spin on YouTube.

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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 05 2019 at 09:40
^ Nice sounds but I’m finding the whole thing a bit of a downer. Still I lasted 25 minutes before putting the Young Gods Second Nature on instead.

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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 11 2019 at 16:34
After 100 reviews here is to you
my personal ranking;
Top 25 reviewed:

1) Sgt Pepper 9,5
2) Starsailor 9,5
3) In the Court Of... 9,5k

4) Musics in a Dolls House 9+
5) Roxy Music 9+
6) Gentle Giant    9+
7) Lorca 9+
8) Aqualung 9+

9) Islands 9
10) Fearless. 9
11) For Your Pleasure. 9
12) Quatermass 9
13) Collage 9
14) Mark Hollis 9
15) Tommy 9
16) Happy Sad 9
17) Felona e Sorona 9

18) Larks Tongues 9-
19) Close to the Edge 9-
20) Lizard 9-

21) Selling England 8,5
22) Hosianna Mantra 8,5
23) Valentyne Suite 8,5
24) Rubber Soul 8,5
25) Revolver 8,5


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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 12 2019 at 22:51
^ Interesting - you seem to have gone for the more musical music whereas I think it was Eno’s electronic noise on those Roxy Music albums that influenced me at an early age. And I love Tomorrow Never Knows and Family’s “Voyage”.

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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 04:27
Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Tangerine Dream - What A Blast
An ugly-looking 1999 Tangerine Dream-album taht I've never even heard of. Can it really be "desert island-great"? Guess I have to find out. 

Love The Zodiac-album. Ever heard this 1969-cover version of Aries? Far out enough in a Arthur Brown-way to be interesting I think.




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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 12:08
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Tangerine Dream - What A Blast
An
ugly-looking 1999 Tangerine Dream-album taht I've never even heard of. Can it
really be "desert island-great"? Guess I have to find out. 

Love The Zodiac-album. Ever heard this 1969-cover version of Aries? Far out enough in a Arthur Brown-way to be interesting I think.




Wow I never thought anyone would cover The Zodiac! That track is rather good and Arthurian . Ha - “Giants of Jazz Radio” webradio has just started playing “Fire” as I type!

What A Blast is a relatively new acquisition so the list could change. It wasn’t that easy though to find 25 prog albums I enjoyed every track of that much. It stands out from the other TD albums though, it’s much heavier, more dramatic and varied. I love the way “Dream Sculpture” starts all New Age choirs then jets scream over and thrash guitars start up. It’s very odd they gave the best material to some obscure film soundtrack. All the tracks are on YouTube individually if you look them up from Prog Archives or Voices In The Net. If you want to buy a copy do searches for both “What A Blast” and also “Architecture In Motion”.

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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 13 2019 at 20:59
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Sorry but I'm way too lazy for this kind of stuff nowadays.

In fact, there's only two things in life that really interest me:

1. Titties
2. and Beer.

.... and those are two new bands? You didn't introduce them!

Tongue


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 16:47
Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

^ Interesting - you seem to have gone for the more musical music whereas I think it was Eno’s electronic noise on those Roxy Music albums that influenced me at an early age. And I love Tomorrow Never Knows and Family’s “Voyage”.

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Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: April 19 2019 at 10:47
25. Luiz Gonzaga - A história do nordeste
24. The Beatles - Rubber Soul
23. Yusuf Lateef - Yusef Lateef's Detroit: Latitude 42° 30' Longitude 83°
22. James Brown - Hot Pants
21. Estrella Morente - Mi cante y un poema
20. Electric Masada - At the Mountains of Madness
19. Caetano Veloso - Caetano Veloso (1968)
18. Bohren und der Club of Gore - Sunset Mission
17. Elza Soares - A mulher do fim do mundo
16. Girls Aloud - Chemistry
15. Van Morrison - Veedon Fleece
14. Martinho da Vila - Canta canta minha gente
13. John Fahey - VI: Days Have Gone By
12. Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch
11. Alceu Valença - Espelho cristalino
10. Madonna - Ray of Light
9. João Gilberto - Chega de saudade
8. Fugazi - The Argument
7. Aaliyah - Aaliyah
6. Juçara Marçal e Kiko Dinucci - Padê
5. Chico Buarque - Construção
4. The Byrds - Sweetheart of the Rodeo
3. Beyoncé - Lemonade
2. Miles Davis - On the Corner
1. Jorge Ben - A Tábua de Esmeralda

United States of America: 11
Brazil: 9
England: 2
Ireland: 1
Spain: 1
Germany: 1

1950s: 2
1960s: 6
1970s: 6
1980s: Nope
1990s: 1
2000s: 8
2010s: 2


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 20 2019 at 00:07
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh, arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! 
  
Brain Cells Meltdown...I`ll Be Back?  


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 19:28
My personal ranking, 07/14/2019

Rating 9,75/10
1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
2) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
3) The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill

Rating 9,5/10
4) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
5) In The Court Of... - King Crimson
6) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill
7) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator

Rating 9,25/10
8) Red - King Crimson
9) Music In A Doll's House - Family
10) Animals - Pink Floyd
11) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
12) Comus - First Utterance
13) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
14) Lorca - Tim Buckley
15) H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator
16) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 
17) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
18) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
19) Islands - King Crimson
20) Fearless - Family
21) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull
23) Quatermass - Quatermass
24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music
25) Trespass - Genesis


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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 13 2019 at 22:18
^ I notice Genesis have crept in. Is that because you’ve just rated it?

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 06:39
No particular order.

Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn
King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic
Vezhlivy Otkaz - Gusi-Lebedi
Henry Cow - Western Culture
Knifeworld - The Unravelling
Pink Floyd - Animals
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Hatfield & The North - Rotters Club
Caravan - In The Land Of Grey & Pink
National Health - Of Queues & Cures
Radiohead - OK Computer
Roy Harper - Stormcock
Pikapika Teart - Moonberry
Cardiacs - Sing To God
Thinking Plague - Decline & Fall
Guapo - 5 Suns
PoiL - Brossaklitt
Cheer-Accident - Fear Draws Misfortune
Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor
CAN - Future Days
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Von Vite
VDGG - Pawn Hearts
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Of Natural History
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:09
great list IanClap and a much too early Beer but in my defense.. it is a f**king good witbier haha

I haven't done up a list in sometime ..  I'll post mine a bit later.  In driveby shooting mode right now


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:13
in alphabetic order (by artists), and as usual only one album per artist:

Amon Düül 2 - Tanz der Lemminge
Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel
Calvert, Robert - Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters
Can - Tago Mago
Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
Dzyan - Electric Silence
Eloy - Floating
Embryo - Rocksession
Froese, Edgar - Epsilon in Malaysian Pale
Genesis - Nursery Cryme (self-made edition including "Happy the Man" and "Twilight Alehouse")
Gong - You
Guru Guru - Känguru
Hammill, Peter - The Fall of the House of Usher (1999 version)
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time
High Tide - Sea Shanties
King Crimson - Lizard
Mother Gong - Fairy Tales
Nektar - Recycled
Pink Floyd - Meddle (would have liked to choose "Ummagumma" but I think it is excluded by your rules)
Popol Vuh - Affenstunde
Schulze, Klaus - Mirage
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon
Turner, Nik - Xitintoday
Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
Yes - Relayer

some of them will be on many people's list, others are not that well known ("Fairy Tales" or "Xitintoday", for example). as usual, this list might be different any other day


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:16
with a few notable exceptions LOL Love the list Jean and here..  have one too..  Beeras I'm about to finish the first of the day.

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 07:27
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

with a few notable exceptions LOL Love the list Jean and here..  have one too..  Beeras I'm about to finish the first of the day.

yeah, I can imagine "Pawn Hearts" and "The Fall of the House of Usher" not to be to your liking. you belong to that bunch of infidels that refuse to accept that "Peter Hammill is God" Angry LOL (Friede and I actually saw a guy in a t-shirt with that inscription at a PH concert. when we talked to him he told us that he follows him from concert to concert all over the world)


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 08:19
Great list Jean, always good to see Captain Lockheed.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 11:59
probably hasn't changed much since the last ones done in various threads..

no particular order only in as they come to me.. which means in some half assed way.. they are in order

1.  Osanna - Palepoli.  by no means the greatest prog album ever done.. you have to be English to get that nod for great impact and influence.. but quality.. sh*t. they got little on the master of music themselves. The Italians. May not ever be in a grts prog album list but to these ears the best and most creative prog album ever done. It had it all.. and then some.  More creative than pretty much anything anyone did..and oh.. it f**kING ROCKS!!!

2. Yes - Tales  -  said enough about it

3a - Balletto di Bronzo - the single darkest, hardest and heaviest prog.. sh*t.. rock album ever done. Some have considered it the best prog album ever made. I wouldnt' go quite that far.. a bit too monochromatic to really consider it that.  But what really is not debatable it his hands down the best keyboard based rock album ever recorded.  

3b.  Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries -  toss copy of this into my casket before I go up in flames.. for I hear the beer tastes like piss in hell and I might as well have something great to listen to down there.  A truly spiritual listen.. was thefirst time I heard it. .still is today. 

5. Can - Soon over Babaluma -  Talk about an album crashing the Mick Fav album party over the last few years. While YS was a call to action for your balls, Sulle Corde for the heart... this one is for one's head.  

6. ADII - Yeti
7. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
8. Magma - Kobaia
9. Dungen - Tio Bitar
10. ELO - ELO2
11. Radiohead - OK Computer
12. Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra
13. Captain Beyond - S/T
14. UT Gret - Ancestor's Tale
15. Bo Hansson - Lord the Rings
16. Yes - Close to the Edge
17. PFM - Storia di un Minuto
18. BOC - Secret Treaties
19. Guapo - Elixers
20. Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 12:13
Nice list micky, on Balletto di Bronzo I'd call UZ - Heresie & Shub Niggurath - Les Mort Vont Vite are certainly darker & Electric Masada - At The Mountains Of Madness is certainly heavier. 

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 12:21
Thanks Ian!  

hmmmm....  how many people have you seen run screaming and cussing you for suggesting those albums to people. Like you I've spent a good many years kicking around prog forums and seeing how these new cats react to these albums as they discover them. Never really heard the kinds of reactions with those to those I can tell you.. I have seen many do so with YS.. that is why good reviewers.. the really good ones put a warning label on YS.  Never heard any particular need for that with those.  Heavy, dark? Sure they are.. but I think YS is considered and rightfully so to be the king of that.. by a good country mile... said best by myself.. it is 40 minutes of being beat over the head by a 2x4.. then having your head ripped completely off as a parting gift. It isn't just dark and heavy.. the intensity of it. It never really lets up for the whole album which is why I consider it a bit too monochromatic to be considered the best prog album ever made as some of the old school progheads have done.


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 12:34
Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

^ I notice Genesis have crept in. Is that because you’ve just rated it?


For now,  the new entries are Comus and Genesis with Trespass (I'm still evaluating The Lamb). 

This is a provisional list, I know that there are many albums that, when I listen to them well, will certainly take over from those who have taken 9. 

Art Zoyd, Can, Amon Duul, Soft Machine, Univers Zero, Magma etc could enter.


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Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 14 2019 at 21:48
^ This serious evaluation should keep you occupied for some time .

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 15 2019 at 08:06
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:



1.  Osanna - Palepoli.  by no means the greatest prog album ever done.. you have to be English to get that nod for great impact and influence.. but quality.. sh*t. they got little on the master of music themselves. The Italians. May not ever be in a grts prog album list but to these ears the best and most creative prog album ever done. It had it all.. and then some.  More creative than pretty much anything anyone did..and oh.. it f**kING ROCKS!!!

2. Yes - Tales  -  said enough about it

3a - Balletto di Bronzo - the single darkest, hardest and heaviest prog.. sh*t.. rock album ever done. Some have considered it the best prog album ever made. I wouldnt' go quite that far.. a bit too monochromatic to really consider it that.  But what really is not debatable it his hands down the best keyboard based rock album ever recorded.  

3b.  Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries -  toss copy of this into my casket before I go up in flames.. for I hear the beer tastes like piss in hell and I might as well have something great to listen to down there.  A truly spiritual listen.. was thefirst time I heard it. .still is today. 

5. Can - Soon over Babaluma -  Talk about an album crashing the Mick Fav album party over the last few years. While YS was a call to action for your balls, Sulle Corde for the heart... this one is for one's head.  

6. ADII - Yeti
7. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
8. Magma - Kobaia
9. Dungen - Tio Bitar
10. ELO - ELO2
11. Radiohead - OK Computer
12. Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra
13. Captain Beyond - S/T
14. UT Gret - Ancestor's Tale
15. Bo Hansson - Lord the Rings
16. Yes - Close to the Edge
17. PFM - Storia di un Minuto
18. BOC - Secret Treaties
19. Guapo - Elixers
20. Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza

Cool list, with Soon Over Babaluma the leading Can album (I thought I was the only one) and massively good stuff such as Battiato, Talk Talk, OK Computer, much of which doesn't make its way on many lists.
Then I never got into TFTO and love VDGG, so agreement always has to end somewhere when it comes to taste, I guess...


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 22:04
thanks.. and no man you ain't the only one with Soon Over Babaluma..  there are a few of us.  Personally I think it took the best of Tago Mago and Future Days and was the perfect culmination of what they had they messed around with earlier albums.  I think they realized it was well and perhaps wasn't really a suprise that after that album they made a marked stylsitic shift..  they hit perfection on that album.  I think that takes a bit of time and reflection spent with Can perhaps to realize.   I've been listening to them for years.. and it took years for that album to really click and perhaps to realize just what I was listening to.  

and yeah man.. tastes are tastes.. nothing to be done about that.  It is why I waged a long and bitter campaign, one of the few I actually lost, to not just have that list on the main page removed but also get rid of those stupid rating.. and in it's place and a more formal reasoned list of important and influential albums. A list to be done by the people who know more than just the groups they like. My thought was to have the genre teams and the collabs do it.  That job meant you had to listen to all kinds of stuff, not just what you like, and to be a collab... at least back in the day... you had to know your sh*t about prog, and music in general.


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 18:10
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

thanks.. and no man you ain't the only one with Soon Over Babaluma..  there are a few of us.  Personally I think it took the best of Tago Mago and Future Days and was the perfect culmination of what they had they messed around with earlier albums.  I think they realized it was well and perhaps wasn't really a suprise that after that album they made a marked stylsitic shift..  they hit perfection on that album.  I think that takes a bit of time and reflection spent with Can perhaps to realize.   I've been listening to them for years.. and it took years for that album to really click and perhaps to realize just what I was listening to.  

and yeah man.. tastes are tastes.. nothing to be done about that.  It is why I waged a long and bitter campaign, one of the few I actually lost, to not just have that list on the main page removed but also get rid of those stupid rating.. and in it's place and a more formal reasoned list of important and influential albums. A list to be done by the people who know more than just the groups they like. My thought was to have the genre teams and the collabs do it.  That job meant you had to listen to all kinds of stuff, not just what you like, and to be a collab... at least back in the day... you had to know your sh*t about prog, and music in general.
Very interesting list. Number one Palepoli, wow. Three Italians in the top 5. I should show your list to ome Italian journal or siteof prog. But even for me it's not easy to find Italians albums in the top 20. Sure not Pfm Or Banco. Osanna Balketto di Bronzo and Area aremost interesting for me. .
Then, in your list King Crimson and VDGg are absents. For me it's not possible, I consider Hammill and Wyatt the most gifted artist of prog. And Frip is close.
 
Then, last but not least, you are right, there should be a top 50 or a to 100 liat of albums madefrom collaborators andreviers of the sute.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 19 2019 at 19:37
it is about tastes man.. sure if this were a list of albums I'd consider great. You know.. what that list could have been and should have been of course VDGG and KC would rank highly. Not many can or do.. but to me is quite easy to separate my tastes from my objective view of albums.  I riffed on this notion once, it is all about the context of the album which is can be a fairly well done objective and factual evaluation of the album rather than the purely subjective view of how the music connects with you personally. Which is why we have such ouf of place contextually album in that top album on the site. They look out of place.. because they are if one views it a certain way. Albums can be viewed objectively. But it takes some functioning grey matter and quite a bit of overall and broad based knowledge of prog..and music in general. Other than the old 'I know what I like that dominates much of the reviews, discussions and the very members we have here in large part.

Part of why I wanted to remove ratings was the inconsistency of it. Some like myself.. rated albums based on a objective scale. Most throw 5 stars at an album they like and that is that.  No problem with that.. but it isn't exactly what the whole ratings system was intended to do..... or specifically worded to convey. Thus you go reviews like my infamous DT review that was voted the single greatest PA's review ever done.. god almighty did I stir up a sh*t storm. Went all the way to the admin team to decide whether to delete it but at least they were smart enough to see what I was doing... a poke in the eye at the system and its failings.

Objectively. Sure. That is what me and my guys were doing on another prog site before I got drafted to come work over here. Guess we were doing good work haha. But subjectively I may think the Wetton years among the most overrated and over ballyhood of all prog streaks.. perhaps only topped by Ian's Ego.. I mean 70's Jethro Dull.. and VDGG. Many love them.. but there are quite a few and I'm firmly with them that think they are the single best poster child for the very thing that ill'd prog more than anything.. prog for prog's sake.. where the notions of prog .. the trapping of it don't augment or complement creativity.. they serve as a substitute for it.

that said.. like the stubborn ass that I am.. I only did 20. .not 25..   there is a album from each I love enough to perhaps have put in a top 25. Discipline which IMO was far and AWAY the best and most progressive album they did.. and H to He which was the one album I think one can point to where VDGG actually hit the mark instead of missing it. I love that album.


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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: July 19 2019 at 21:22
I used to make lists like this but rarely do now.  Just too many favorites out there and I don't have the patience to come up with 25 and them swap some out every day.


Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 20 2019 at 09:45
Micky is right. I can see now I’m more interested in “the purely subjective view of how the music connects with you personally” and finding what I like for which the site has indeed been extremely helpful, so am going to drop out and leave the reviewing and rating to the experts. Most of the Tangerine Dream I’m listening to now isn’t prog anyway so it doesn’t really make any sense to review it.

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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: July 25 2019 at 14:37
Originally posted by 2dogs 2dogs wrote:

Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

1. Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans
2. Genesis The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
3. Yes Fragile
4. Genesis Foxtrot
5. Yes Close To The Edge
6. Jethro Tull Thick As A Brick
7. ELP Brain Salad Surgery
8. King Crimson Larks' Tongues In Aspic
9. King Crimson Red
10. Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here
11. Neal Morse Sola Scriptura
12. Neal Morse Question Mark
13. Yes Relayer
14. Rush A Farewell To Kings
15. The Yes Album
16. Genesis A Trick Of The Tail
17. King Crimson In The Court Of The Crimson King
18. Genesis Nursery Cryme
19. Gentle Giant Free Hand
20. Rush 2112
21. Gentle Giant Octopus
22. Kansas Leftoverture
23. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever
24. Kansas Kansas
25. Todd Rundgren's Utopia 


I have 13 of those in my collection, Gentle Giant, KC, Yes and Genesis. I quite like them but it seems you value great musical ability most whereas unusual invention, strange sounds and atmosphere make more of an impression on me. Maybe being a non-musician has some effect although some of the parts in my selection still sound amazingly difficult.

Your list is (mostly) over my head - although I do love me some Amon Duul 2!!!


Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 25 2019 at 22:57
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Your list is (mostly) over my head - although I do love me some Amon Duul 2!!!


Sorry, I got carried away finding 25 in my own collection, I’m not sufficiently focused on progressive rock to do this properly. Your list seems more what the OP was looking for.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 28 2019 at 16:42

Rating 10
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 
2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
3) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator


Rating 9,75/10
4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt


Rating 9,5/10
5) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
6) In The Court Of... - King Crimson
7) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill
8) Red - King Crimson
9) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill


Rating 9,25/10
10) Music In A Doll's House - Family
11) Animals - Pink Floyd
12) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
13) First Utterance - Comus
14) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
15) Lorca - Tim Buckley
16) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 
17) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
18) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
19) Islands - King Crimson
20) Fearless - Family
21) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull
23) Quatermass - Quatermass
24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music
25) Trespass - Genesis


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 28 2019 at 17:17
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

it is about tastes man.. sure if this were a list of albums I'd consider great. You know.. what that list could have been and should have been of course VDGG and KC would rank highly. Not many can or do.. but to me is quite easy to separate my tastes from my objective view of albums.  I riffed on this notion once, it is all about the context of the album which is can be a fairly well done objective and factual evaluation of the album rather than the purely subjective view of how the music connects with you personally. Which is why we have such ouf of place contextually album in that top album on the site. They look out of place.. because they are if one views it a certain way. Albums can be viewed objectively. But it takes some functioning grey matter and quite a bit of overall and broad based knowledge of prog..and music in general. Other than the old 'I know what I like that dominates much of the reviews, discussions and the very members we have here in large part.

Part of why I wanted to remove ratings was the inconsistency of it. Some like myself.. rated albums based on a objective scale. Most throw 5 stars at an album they like and that is that.  No problem with that.. but it isn't exactly what the whole ratings system was intended to do..... or specifically worded to convey.....

Objectively. Sure. That is what me and my guys were doing on another prog site before I got drafted to come work over here. Guess we were doing good work haha. But subjectively I may think the Wetton years among the most overrated and over ballyhood of all prog streaks.. perhaps only topped by Ian's Ego.. I mean 70's Jethro Dull.. and VDGG. Many love them.. but there are quite a few and I'm firmly with them that think they are the single best poster child for the very thing that ill'd prog more than anything.. prog for prog's sake.. where the notions of prog .. the trapping of it don't augment or complement creativity.. they serve as a substitute for it.

that said.. like the stubborn ass that I am.. I only did 20. .not 25..   there is a album from each I love enough to perhaps have put in a top 25. Discipline which IMO was far and AWAY the best and most progressive album they did.. and H to He which was the one album I think one can point to where VDGG actually hit the mark instead of missing it. I love that album.

I think itìs not easy to separate the music you like from the music you consider great. In some cases, I love listening to certain records while considering them not great, because they give me relax or emotions that I am looking for at that moment. Often they are records that I listen to with ease, which do not require me a great intellectual commitment. Yes, for example, I listen to them often and easily, and I talk about their three golden albums: Yes Album - Fragile - Close to the Edge. I can say that I like to listen to them, and it relaxes me, it intrigues me the sound and their virtuosity, but I consider them an easy music, almost easy listening within prog, basically the matrix of their sound is pop. So they dont reach five stars in my personal ranking. 

Instead I give 5 stars to Buckely's Starsailor but I don't listen often to it: I have to be in the mood to do it. It seems to me more difficult music. Pawn Hearts is equally difficult, while The Least We Can Do is easier because it has more linear songs... and yet both make me always want to listen to them and make me literally enjoy, I feel pleasure listening to them, an enjoyment both emotional strong (which I do not have with Yes, apart from feeling serenity and cheerfulness) and if I have to evaluate them, as I have done these days, my rating is 10, because I have convinced myself that they put together greatness of composition and arrangement and execution with emotional and intellectual involvement. All this in a word I call beauty. 

An artwork is beautiful or ugly, with all the nuances in between. An aesthetic judgment of an artwork must be based on beauty. Now, you say an objective judgment instead. What is objective judgment? I dont know... but if I think, the only one I can consider objective is beauty. If you judge the quality of an artwork  which is perhaps what you call greatnessm maybe you judge the beauty. Or you judge the historical importance of a work, and this does not always go hand in hand with beauty, you can see it in architecture, in painting, literature, in cinema: some works that have represented fundamental steps in those arts and that are remembered by many, they are historically imploded but not beautiful, while some that are considered beautiful, often only by connoisseurs, or by the minority of people, are not so important historically. 

In my reviews I try to evaluate the quality of an album, that is its beauty, and to do so I look at many things including emotions, but they are subjective to some extent. I think we have to start from the beauty in making a ranking, to make sure that the history of the prog remembers above all the most beautiful works, not the most historically important ones, because in some cases you should have the courage to say that a certain work, famous, at the time innovative, at the test of time, today we consider it yes important but not so beautiful.



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 28 2019 at 20:23
f**k NO brother it ain't easy to do, perhaps you really have to be hardwired for way of thinking... nor is it particularly common.  The site in its early needed those types to build this site and put effort into getting them.  I got found toiling away on another prog site by Ivan and while even then we were at each others throats for disagreeing about everything but the color of the sky but to his credit he obviously saw that I wasn't merely a fan of music or worse.. specific groups or style, I knew music at a fairly formidable level and could evaluate it and break it down and judge it objectively without regards to my particular tastes.

And once I came over here.. both Raff and I who were among the first genre team members met doing this work for Ivan but soon immediately branched out from Ivan's particular specialty (nah nah na nah nah I won her LOL)and started what proved to be a vast reworking and reordering of a large section of the database. To do that we needed help and we watced carefully the 'gen pop' as it were and those we saw that had the knowledge to do what we had to do.. and of course the temperment to deal with two very type A individuals and we did select, promote and work with some of the damn finest collabs this site ever had.  It is not easy man.. but I do harken back to something I once wrote in a review.  A good summation of that kind of thought..

'Sometimes art can connect with its audience... and sometimes it doesn't. The true mark of a connoisseur of art is appreciating the effort, even when the attempt leaves you baffled or colder than hell.'


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: July 29 2019 at 18:39
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Thus you go reviews like my infamous DT review that was voted the single greatest PA's review ever done.. god almighty did I stir up a sh*t storm. Went all the way to the admin team to decide whether to delete it but at least they were smart enough to see what I was doing... a poke in the eye at the system and its failings.

Objectively. Sure. That is what me and my guys were doing on another prog site before I got drafted to come work over here. Guess we were doing good work haha. 



Guess you are talking about your review on Dream Theater, this one:
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=117496
My question is: in your opinion, from an objective point of view, what should be the rating of that album? 


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 03 2019 at 13:47
Rating 10/10
 
1) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator
1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator


4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
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Rating 9,5/10
5) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
6) In The Court Of... - King Crimson
7) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill
8) Red - King Crimson
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Rating 9,25/10
9) Music In A Doll's House - Family
10)  Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill
11) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
12) First Utterance - Comus
13) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
14) Lorca - Tim Buckley
15) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 
16) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
17) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd 
18) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
19) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
20) Islands - King Crimson
21) Fearless - Family
22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull
23) Quatermass - Quatermass
24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music
25) Trespass - Genesis


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 03 2019 at 14:35
My list, in alpha order, 1/artist

Bacamarte - Depois Do Fim
Camel - Mirage
Dream Theater - Images and Words
Echolyn - As the World
Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Fates Warning - Parallels
Genesis - Foxtrot
Gentle Giant - Three Friends
Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte
Haken - Affinity
Allan Holdsworth - Metal Fatigue
Itoiz - Ezekiel
Jethro Tull - Aqualung 
Kansas - Leftoverture
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Lord Only - Fear and Trembling
Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
Rush - Moving Pictures
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
Soft Machine - Third
Spock's Beard - The Light
Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever
U.K. - U.K.
Yes - Close to the Edge

I got it down to 26 fairly easily, but had a really rough time making that last cut.  The last cut was Steve Hillage - Fish Rising.  


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: October 03 2019 at 21:23
Selling England by the Pound
MDK
Brain Salad Surgery
Mirage
The Yes Album
Thick as a Brick
In The Land of Grey and Pink
Silent Knight
Foxtrot
One Size Fits All
Fragile
In a Glass House
For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
A Trick of the Tail
Time Honoured Ghosts
The Grand Wazoo
The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other
Kobaia
Three Friends
Tales from Topographic Oceans
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Trilogy
Hot Rats
Relayer
Pawn Hearts
The Power and The Glory
Focus 3








Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: October 04 2019 at 07:26
Hi,

This is really hard for me ... and I won't even try it ... basically, it would not be in my collection if I did not love it, and that means my numbers would be 1500 LP's and 2500 CD's ... and I started with "imports" in 1971 and 1972 to give you an idea how far, and was into the TD/KS schools before just about anyone else ... with everything that was put out ... some of which are still in my top list, if I had one ... 

I just don't see choosing one Popol Vuh album over another. Or a KS album over another. Or a TD album over another ... not to mention that the CD's I can't get from KS (Works)  1 and 2), also has some of the prettiest stuff that will NEVER GET RELEASED ... and make some albums seem "overdone" and "over cooked", by comparison!

There's just too much ... and I can not choose, although I can easily tell you that the band I come back to the most is ... yeah, you know it ... Amon Duul 2. Yeah, that's right ... the one that only a handful of folks considered ... in this thread. 

IF, you count the number of "famous" bands, and their commerciality and selling appeal through the media, everyone's list here would look miserable and sad. It's just too much fame and fortune for this thread for me to enjoy properly!


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Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 10:40

King Crimson Lizard

King Crimson Larks' Tongues in Aspic

Genesis  The Lamb

Jethro Tull Minstrel in the Gallery

Gentle Gaint In A Glass House

Peter Gabriel  II

The Mars Volta The Bedlam In Goliath

Brian Eno/David Byrne My Life in the Bush of Ghosts

Return To Forever Romantic Warrior

Il Balletto Di Bronzo Ys

Zappa Apostrophe

Robet Fripp Exposure

Bill Bruford Feels Good To Me

Brian Eno Another Green World

Fripp, Gunn, Rieflin The Repercussions Of Angelic Behavior

Gong Angel's Egg

Jethro Tull Thick as a Brick

Floyd Ummagumma

Ulver The Marriage Of Heaven & Hell

Pink Floyd Animals

Far East Family Band The Cave Down to the Earth

Tool 10.000 days

Porcupine Tree Deadwing

Dredg The Pariah, The Parrot, The Delusion

Manfred Mann's Earth Band Solar Fire




Remain In Light would have made it if the "rules" was different. 


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 14:43
Alright well i'm gonna try to think of my top 25, this might just kill me, but I'll do my best:

10/10
1: Foxtrot - Genesis 
2: Animals - Pink Floyd 
3: From Silence to Somewhere - Wobbler
4: Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson

9.5/10
5: Moonmadness - Camel
6: Hand. Cannot. Erase. - Steven Wilson
7: Selling England by the Pound - Genesis
8: Mirage - Camel
9: Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
10: Nursery Cryme - Genesis
11: Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd

Ok this is as far as I can get, there's too many albums I love and I cant possibly rank them


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 14:23
New ranking:


Rating 10
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 
2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator


Rating 9,75/10
5) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill


Rating 9,5/10
6) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson
8) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
9) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
10) Red - King Crimson
11) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill


Rating 9,25/10
12) Music In A Doll's House - Family
13) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
14) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
15) First Utterance - Comus
16) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
17) Lorca - Tim Buckley
18) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area 
19) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
20) Islands - King Crimson
21) Fearless - Family
22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull
23) Quatermass - Quatermass
24) For Your Pleasure- Roxy Music
25) Trespass - Genesis

Day after day, albums rated "9" disappear.


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 16:16
Have you already rated Laughing Stock or can it still get in?


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 16 2020 at 18:13
My next review will be on Laughing Stock.

I'm undecided between 8,5 or 9-, as final evaluation. So, it won't get in my top 25.

Talk Talk: 8-
It's my Life 7,5
The Colour of Spring 8+
Spirit of Eden 9,5
Laughing Stock 8,5 or 9-
Mark Hollis 9




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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 17 2020 at 04:39
Here´s mine at the moment:
1. Wigwam: Fairyport
2. Pink Floyd: Atom Heart Mother
3. King Crimson: In the Court of the Crimson King
4. Jethro Tull: Thick As a Brick
5. Family: Music In a Dolls House
6. Traffic: Mr. Fantasy
7. Yes: Fragile
8. Genesis: the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
9. Magma: Magma (aka Kobaia)
10. Faust: Faust IV
11. Can: Tago-Mago
12. Comus: First Utterance
13. Caravan: In the Land Of Grey And Pink
14. Haikara: Geafar
15. Tasavallan Presidentti: Lambert Land
16. Colosseum: Valentyne Suite
17. Amon Düül II: Tanz Der Lemminge
18. Mike Oldfield: Tubular Bells
19. Roy Harper: Stormcock
20: Kevin Ayers: the Confessions Of Dr. Dream And Other Stories
21. Rush: Hemispheres
22. Hawkwind: Warrior On the Edge Of Time
23. Procol Harum: Shine On Brightly
24. Moody Blues: In Search Of Lost Chord
25. Absoluuttinen Nollapiste: Pisara ja Lammas 2


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 17 2020 at 08:35
I made this a couple of months ago using http://www.neverendingchartrendering.org/ate" rel="nofollow - this template . Not all of it is prog and it's probably no longer 100% accurate anymore either but I think it still gives an accurate representation of my musical taste:



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 18 2020 at 11:16
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Have you already rated Laughing Stock or can it still get in?


Here my review  http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 18 2020 at 15:42
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Have you already rated Laughing Stock or can it still get in?
Here my review  http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858

Interesting, this is obviously a well thought through review that you wrote after many mindful listenings. Still to me Laughing Stock feels closer and warmer (you call it cold) than Spirit of Eden. Runeii is so comforting and peaceful. And After The Flood has always featured among my ten best songs of all time, just because besides all the experimental and unusual sounds that even this song has, it is a rock of reliability in these otherwise unpredictable waters. As a Can fan I surely can appreciate a steady hypnotic rhythm. But of course we know that music appreciation is subjective... In a way it illustrates how giving numerical marks cannot do the art justice. I couldn't argue any other marking, but to me this album is beyond marking... but of course I'm not criticising you, I play that game myself...


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 19 2020 at 15:09
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Have you already rated Laughing Stock or can it still get in?
Here my review  http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2307858

Interesting, this is obviously a well thought through review that you wrote after many mindful listenings. Still to me Laughing Stock feels closer and warmer (you call it cold) than Spirit of Eden. Runeii is so comforting and peaceful. And After The Flood has always featured among my ten best songs of all time, just because besides all the experimental and unusual sounds that even this song has, it is a rock of reliability in these otherwise unpredictable waters. As a Can fan I surely can appreciate a steady hypnotic rhythm. But of course we know that music appreciation is subjective... In a way it illustrates how giving numerical marks cannot do the art justice. I couldn't argue any other marking, but to me this album is beyond marking... but of course I'm not criticising you, I play that game myself...

I've seen your chart, and in fact Laughing Stock is in your main Top 10.

Then, you have written various Top 10, with O' Rang, Mark Hollis and even The Colour of Spring, you like Talk Talk very much, more than me... but I can understand your feeling, because we are talking about a great artist (Hollis) and his voice is full of emotions, so you can feel it hot.

I prefer Spirit of Eden but I can understand who prefers Laughing Stock or Mark Hollis' solo album.

But I dont see Can in your rankings.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 19 2020 at 15:38
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:



But I dont see Can in your rankings.

Well, that's probably another case of how incapable ratings and rankings are to capture the essence of art and music. At the end of the day there are a number of albums that are so special and important to me in their own ways that in fact no album should be ranked above them, but there are more than ten of these. That said, all Can albums except maybe Future Days (which is their most consistent, but as a whole doesn't grab me as much as their best stuff does) have their highs and relative lows that don't draw me in that much. So if I rank albums, these appear not quite at the top, but this doesn't take away from the fact that they're the number one band for me, which is not governed that much by individual albums but rather by their overall approach, range, and influence, including the later solo work not only by Czukay. Just to illustrate, Unlimited Edition has lots of stuff that I don't love that much individually, but at the same time it is such a feast of experimentation, playfulness and surprises that it contributes big time to my overall appreciation of the band, despite the fact that as an album to listen to from beginning to end no way I'd rate this 5 stars.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 28 2020 at 19:06
New ranking:


Rating 10
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 
2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator


Rating 9,75/10
5) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill
6) In The Court Of... - King Crimson


Rating 9,5/10
7) Arbeit Mach Frei - Area
8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
9) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
10) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
11) Red - King Crimson
12) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill


Rating 9,25/10
13) Music In A Doll's House - Family
14) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
15) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
16) First Utterance - Comus
17) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
18) Lorca - Tim Buckley
19) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
20) Islands - King Crimson
21) Fearless - Family
22) Aqualung - Jetho Tull
23) Trespass - Genesis
24) Faust - Faust
25) Quatermass - Quatermass




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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 25 2020 at 07:28
New ranking:


Rating 10
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 
2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator


Rating 9,75/10
5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area
6) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill
7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson


Rating 9,5/10
8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
9) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
10) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
11) Red - King Crimson
12) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill


Rating 9,25/10
13) Music In A Doll's House - Family
14) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
15) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
16) First Utterance - Comus
17) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
18) Lorca - Tim Buckley
19) Maledetti - Area
20) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
21) Islands - King Crimson
22) Fearless - Family
23) Aqualung - Jetho Tull
24) Trespass - Genesis
25) Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band







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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 16:43
New ranking:


Rating 10
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 
2) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
3) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
4) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator


Rating 9,75/10
5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area
6) Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill
7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson


Rating 9,5/10
8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
9) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
10) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
11) Red - King Crimson
12) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill


Rating 9,25/10
13) Music In A Doll's House - Family
14) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
15) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
16) First Utterance - Comus
17) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
18) Lorca - Tim Buckley
19) PFM - Storia di Un Minuto
20) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
21) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin
22) Maledetti - Area
23) Tori Amos - Under The Pink

Rating 9/10
24) Islands - King Crimson
25) Fearless - Family




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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 18:01
I am currently in a Zeuhl phase, so I rank Zeuhl albums very high


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 19:15
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I am currently in a Zeuhl phase, so I rank Zeuhl albums very high

Which Zeuhl albums do you love?


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 21:37
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I am currently in a Zeuhl phase, so I rank Zeuhl albums very high

Which Zeuhl albums do you love?

I think I'm on my way into this genre as we speak!


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Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 22:00
My faves change a lot, especially being on this site and reading everyone's fantastic song/album lists all the time.
As of 31st December 2020, it would have to be:

North Sea Radio Orchestra - I A Moon
Cardiacs - Sing to God
Cardiacs - Heaven born and ever bright
Genesis - Trick of the tail 
Ekseption - Trinity

VDGG - Pawn Hearts
Gentle Giant - Free Hand
Gentle Giant - The power and the glory
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother

National Health - Of Queues and Cures
Renaissance - Ashes are Burning
Atomic Rooster - Death Walks behind you
Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Jethro Tull - Heavy Horses





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atomic feedback scream.


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 23:07
Maybe I'm too generous with 5 star ratings because I could easily name 25 five star rating albums. I think I could also go up to 100 5 star rating albums. What I can't really do is name my top 25 favourite albums because depending on the day or week the order would change and some albums would move into my top 25 and some albums would move out of my top 25. Certain albums however will never move out of my top 25. They include:
Yes: TFTO, Close To The Edge
Pink Floyd: DSOTM, WYWH, PATGOD
Genesis: SEBTP, Foxtrot, TOTT, Duke
King Crimson: LTIA, Red
Jethro Tull: APP
The Doors: Strange Days
Split Enz: Mental Notes
Marillion: SFAJT, Marbles, This Strange Engine
The Flower Kings: Stardust We Are



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 17:28
New ranking:


Rating 10/10
1) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 
1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt


Rating 9,75/10
5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area


Rating 9,5/10
6) The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill
7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson
8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
9) Red - King Crimson
10) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill
11) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
12) In Praise of Learning - Henry Cow


Rating 9,25/10
13) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
14) Music In A Doll's House - Family
15) Lorca - Tim Buckley
16) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
17) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
18) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
19) Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band
20) Darwin - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
21) Storia di un Minuto - PFM
22) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
23) First Utterance - Comus
24) Stormy Six - Macchina Maccheronica
25) Maledetti - Area




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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 21:41
Here's my list favorite albums by favorite bands, and prog essentials (definitely not in order). Even decades in, there's so much out there to explore:

Gentle Giant - In a Glass House / Three Friends
Steve Hacket - Voyage of the Acolyte
Ian Gillan Band - Scarabus
Fireballet - Night on Bald Mountain
PFM - Chocolate Kings
Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three
Genesis - Selling England By the Pound
Esta - Mediterranean Crossroads
Yes - Close to the Edge
Dixie Dregs - What If
Family - Songs From a Doll's House
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time
Marillion - Clutching at Straws
Audience - Audience
Uriah Heep - Salisbury
Curved Air - Second Album
Earth & Fire - Song of the Marching Children
Renaissance - Novella
Strawbs - Hero and Heroine
Moody Blues - To Our Children's Children's Children
Procol Harum - Grand Hotel
Camel - Mirage
Air - Moon Safari
Robert Fripp - Exposure
Toyah - Ophelia's Dream
Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy
Phil Manzanera - Firebird V11
Bo Hansson - Magician's Hat
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn
Roland Bocquet - Paradia
Francois Breant - Sons Optique
Samla Mammas Manna - Klossa Knapitatet
Pat Metheny Group - Imaginary Day


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 03:39
Originally posted by Boojieboy Boojieboy wrote:

I'm not sure I understand this post, but will aim to list my favorite albums by favorite bands, and prog essentials:

Gentle Giant - In a Glass House
Ian Gillan Band - Scarabus
Fireballet - Night on Bald Mountain
PFM - Chocolate Kings
Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three
Genesis - Selling England By the Pound
Esta - Caribbean Crossroads
Yes - Close to the Edge
Dixie Dregs - What If
Family - Songs From a Doll's House
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time
Marillion - Clutching at Straws
Audience - Audience
Uriah Heep - Salisbury
Curved Air - Second Album
Earth & Fire - Song of the Marching Children
Renaissance - Novella
Strawbs - Hero and Heroine
Moody Blues - To Our Children's Children's Children
Procol Harum - Grand Hotel
Steve Hacket - Voyage of the Acolyte
Camel - Mirage
Air - Moon Safari
Fred Frith - Cheap at Half the Price
Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy
Roxy Music - Country Life
Phil Manzanera - Firebird V11
Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn
Roland Bocquet - Paradia
Francois Breant - Sons Optique
Samla Mammas Manna - Klossa Knapitatet
The Mothers of Invention - Uncle Meat
Pat Metheny Group - Imaginary Day






Thanks

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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 08:42
New ranking:


Rating 10/10
1) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van Der Graaf Generator
1) From H to He Who Am The Only One - Van Der Graaf Generator 
1) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
4) Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt


Rating 9,75/10
5) Arbeit Macht Frei - Area


Rating 9,5/10
6) The Silent Corner and The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill
7) In The Court Of... - King Crimson
8) Starsailor - Tim Buckley
9) Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories
10) Red - King Crimson
11) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill
12) Spirit Of Eden - Talk Talk
13) In Praise of Learning - Henry Cow


Rating 9,25/10
14) Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
15) Music In A Doll's House - Family
16) Lorca - Tim Buckley
17) Roxy Music - Roxy Music
18) Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
19) Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
20) Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band
21) Darwin - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
22) Storia di un Minuto - PFM
23) Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant
24) First Utterance - Comus
25) Stormy Six - Macchina Maccheronica


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"Happiness is real only when shared"


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 03:23
Old list:-
1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP
2) Close To The Edge - Yes
3) Red - King Crimson
4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd
5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis
6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child
8) PG1 - Peter Gabriel
9) Moving Pictures - Rush
10) Animals - Pink Floyd
11) Foxtrot - Genesis
12) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant
13) Ever - IQ
14) Danger Money - UK
15) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
16) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis
17) Time To Turn - Eloy
18) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman
19) Weather Systems - Anathema
20) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer
21) UK - UK
22) Relayer - Yes
23) Force Majeure - Tangerine Dream
24) The Wake - IQ
25) Veni Vidi Vici - Par Lindh Project

that was my my list back 2 years ago . Now I would put in Far Corner - Risk , Big Big Train - Folklore and All Traps On Earth instead of the bottom 3 but would include another seventies album instead of Relayer , PFM - Per Un Amico. In fact I would bump that very high.

Amended list:-
1) Brain Salad Surgery - ELP
2) Close To The Edge - Yes
3) Red - King Crimson
4) Wish you Were Here - Pink Floyd
5) A Trick of the Tail - Genesis
6) Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator
7) 666 - Aphrodite's Child
8) PFM - Per Un Amico
9) PG1 - Peter Gabriel
10) Moving Pictures - Rush
11) Animals - Pink Floyd
12) Foxtrot - Genesis
13) The Power and The Glory - Gentle Giant
14) Ever - IQ
15) Danger Money - UK
16) Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
17) Heaven and Hell - Vangelis
18) Time To Turn - Eloy
19) Six Wives Of Henry VIII - Rick Wakeman
20) Weather Systems - Anathema
21) The Inconsolable Secret - Glass Hammer
22) UK - UK
23) All Traps On Earth - A Drop of Light
24) Far Corner - Risk
25) Big Big Train - Folklore




Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 07:39
Guess I missed this one when you started it 2 1/2 years ago, Lorenzo. But I did notice you used the word "best" in your Original Post, which, in my opinion connotes a different set of criterion than "favorite". And, since you used your own (PA-based) metric system to generate the (ever-evolving) list, I can understand how you reached your list of "best" prog (according to PA standards) studio albums of all-time. With this in mind, this is what I've come up with ... today:

1. Magma Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh

2. Yes Relayer

3. Bent Knee Shiny Eyed Babies

4. Yes Close to the Edge

5. King Crimson In The Court of The Crimson King

6. Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon

7. Il Balletto di Bronzo Ys

8. Area Crac!

9. Flairck Gevecht met de Engel

10. All Traps on Earth A Drop of Light

11. Homunculus Res Limiti all’eguaglianza della parte con il tutto

12. Eskaton 4 Visions

13. Seven Impale City of the Sun

14. Koenji Hyakkei Angherr Shisspa

15. Harmonium Si on avait besoin d’une cinqième saison

16. Supertramp Crime of The Century

17. Genesis The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway

18. UK UK

19. PFM Per un amico

20. Nil Nil Novo Sub sole

21. Todd Rundgren’s Utopia Adventures in Utopia

22. Maudlin of The Well Part the Second

23. Return to Forever Romantic Warrior

24. Riverside Second Life Syndrome

25. Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds of Fire




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https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 11:23
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Guess I missed this one when you started it 2 1/2 years ago, Lorenzo. But I did notice you used the word "best" in your Original Post, which, in my opinion connotes a different set of criterion than "favorite". And, since you used your own (PA-based) metric system to generate the (ever-evolving) list, I can understand how you reached your list of "best" prog (according to PA standards) studio albums of all-time. With this in mind, this is what I've come up with ... today:

1. Magma Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh

2. Yes Relayer

3. Bent Knee Shiny Eyed Babies

4. Yes Close to the Edge

5. King Crimson In The Court of The Crimson King

6. Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon

7. Il Balletto di Bronzo Ys

8. Area Crac!

9. Flairck Gevecht met de Engel

10. All Traps on Earth A Drop of Light

11. Homunculus Res Limiti all’eguaglianza della parte con il tutto

12. Eskaton 4 Visions

13. Seven Impale City of the Sun

14. Koenji Hyakkei Angherr Shisspa

15. Harmonium Si on avait besoin d’une cinqième saison

16. Supertramp Crime of The Century

17. Genesis The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway

18. UK UK

19. PFM Per un amico

20. Nil Nil Novo Sub sole

21. Todd Rundgren’s Utopia Adventures in Utopia

22. Maudlin of The Well Part the Second

23. Return to Forever Romantic Warrior

24. Riverside Second Life Syndrome

25. Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds of Fire



Thanks, Drew!

In your list there are some albums I've never heard.

Now they are in the list of my next listenings.




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Posted By: Magog2112
Date Posted: August 01 2023 at 09:49
Here are my top 25 studio albums today:

1. Marillion - Brave
2. The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
3. Echolyn - As the World
4. Genesis - Foxtrot
5. Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
6. Marillion - Marbles
7. The Flower Kings - Paradox Hotel
8. Pendragon - Not of This World
9. Echolyn - Echolyn
10. Arena - The Visitor
11. The Flower Kings - Flower Power
12. Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element, Pt. I
13. Genesis - Selling England By the Pound
14. Marbles - Afraid of Sunlight
15. Galahad - Following Ghosts
16. Arena - Contagion
17. Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane
18. Kate Bush - Aerial
19. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
20. Yes - Going for the One
21. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
22. Brian Eno - Another Green World
23. Galahad - Empires Never Last
24. Echolyn - Suffocating the Bloom
25. Phideaux - Infernal



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