This is "Mein" poll
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Topic: This is "Mein" poll
Posted By: Logan
Subject: This is "Mein" poll
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 17:44
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This ended up being quite the waste of time. I made a longer list, one there is fake, if you can think of others to mention, please do. A.R. & Machines "Ich bin dein Sänger, Du bist mein Lied" Aidan Baker "Mein Zwilling, Mein Verlorener" Cos "Mein Maschine Ist Schön" Deuter "Mein Geliebter Berührt Mich, Umarmt Mich Der Wind" Dornenreich "Innerwille ist mein Docht"/"Mein Publikum - Der Augenblick" Droban-Apherna "Das ist das leben, das ist die reich, mein Führer" Galahad "Mein Herz Brennt" Grobschnitt "Mein Lieben" Hitler's Moustache "Mein Kampf um Meinen Rotzigen Schnurrbart" Lacrimosa "Mein Zweites Herz" Mayfair "Schlage Mein Herz Schlage.." Metabolismus "Mein Abgehacktes Bein" Mizraab "Jaey Mein" Nick 'n Neil (Morse & D'Virgilio) "Mein kleiner grüner Kaktus" CzesŁaw Niemen "Nie Jesteś Moja (Du Bist Nicht Mein)" Overload "Saat Mein" Panzerballett "Mein Teil" Pierrot Lunaire "Mein Armer Italiener" Hans-Joachim Roedelius "Mein Freund Farouk" Sankt Otten "Mein Freund Aus Köln" Klaus Schulze "Echt ist mein Lieben, wahr sei auch mein Leid" Schwarzarbeit "Mein Spielplatz" Stern-Combo Meissen "Mein Herz Soll Ein Wasser Sein" Stormy Six "Mein Name Ist Troop" Sun City Girls "Duniya Mein Logon Ko" Asmus Tietchens "Mein Erstes Erlebnis" Ton Steine Scherben "Ich Will Nicht Werden Was Mein Alter Ist" or " Mein Name Ist Mensch" True Symphonic Rockestra "Das ist mein ganzes Herz" Ulenspiegel "Mein Michel, was willst du noch mehr" Witthuser and Westrupp "Nimm doch einen Joint, mein Freund" Thierry Zaboitzeff "Mein Augenstern" Frank Zappa "Du Bist Mein Sofa" (aka Sofa No. 2") Some ones of note: ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 18:38
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the title of the Deuter track is actually "Mein Geliebter Berührt Mich,
Umarmt Mich Der Wind"; you forgot the umlaut. and either the title of
the Droban-Apherna track (I don't know that band) is wrong or their
German is faulty; correct would be "Das ist das Leben, das ist das
Reich, mein Führer". the Cos title is also wrong or faulty German; correct would be "Meine Maschine ist schön", with an "e" behind "Mein". oh the difficulties of flexion in the German language! -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 18:58
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I'll go for Panzerballett's Rammstein cover. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 19:12
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Yah my sofa yah ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 00:19
I'm very non-German, rarely do I experience schadenfreude. ;) Nun, wir können nicht alle fließend Deutsch schreiben. Other than one fanciful title that plays on Spock's Beard in my OP, it's all been copy-pasted from PA (I used the search feature). Most of these tracks are not in my collection. My German is not up to wanting to attempt to type out all those titles by hand (just searching for and copy-pasting them took a long time). Even in English I make many mistakes as is when I don't copy-paste titles -- like accidentally typing Giant Genitals instead of Gentle Giant, which is an easy mistake to make when one's not altogether on the balls. The Belgian COS' Babel entry is in my collection, and it is listed as "Mein Maschine ist schön" on my album and at other sites I've looked at, including at https://www.babyblaue-seiten.de/index.php?albumId=4893&content=review&left=alpha&top=reviews&alpha=c" rel="nofollow - babyblaue-seiten.de . I do seem to recall you mentioning that about Cöß before, or could it be case of dejä vü? ;) ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
BaldJean wrote:Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 02:27
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Voted for the wrongly spelled (by the band, not Logan) Cos-track. Funnily I got ten mostly fantastic vintage Bollywood songs with Mein in the title ------------- 
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 02:57
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a little German lesson: the flexion of "mein" Masculine Feminine Neuter Nominative: mein Mann meine Frau mein Kind Genitive: meines Mannes meiner Frau meines Kindes Dative: meinem Mann meiner Frau meinem Kind Accusative: meinen Mann meine Frau mein Kind example sentences: nominative: mein Mann / meine Frau / mein Kind liebt mich (my husband / my wife / my child loves me) genitive: das ist der Ring meines Mannes / meiner Frau / meines Kindes (this is the ring of my husband / my wife / my child) dative: ich gebe den Ring meinem Mann / meiner Frau / meinem Kind (I give the ring to my husband / my wife / my child) accusative: ich liebe meinen Mann / meine Frau / mein Kind (I love my husband / my wife / my child) the gender of "Maschine" strangely is female (die Maschine), so according to this chart it has to be "Meine Maschine ist schön" ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 06:09
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The Zaboitzeff one is brilliant! Some more German stuff that is neither prog nor anyone will care about here, however I like these: |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 06:37
this is actually prog-related, so of some interest to people here. Heinz Rudolf Kunze was the one who translated the 12 Peter Hammill songs that appear on his album "Offensichtlich Goldfisch" ("Apparently Goldfish") into German ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 06:43
Oh yes, and he also toured with Anyone's Daughter and is on at least one of their more recent albums. Oh, and he also had a smash hit in Germany titled "Dein ist mein ganzes Herz", which... well, I have chosen to post the other one...  PS: And I was in the audience when that live album was recorded.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 08:15
| Frank Zappa, followed by Klaus Chultze and Grobshnitt. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 10:59
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Regarding the language lesson, I appreciate the effort and I wasn't disagreeing with you, but I have enough problems with the English language, and I'm a copy-editor. COS got it wrong, ether intentionally or unintentionally. Here I'd rather not let such rules cramp my style, and think we might all have more fun if we let our hair down more, figuratively speaking. That said, while generally I'd rather discuss the music itself in the list, and ones off the list, and make bad jokes along the way, I do appreciate various digressions. Actually, I tend to appreciate most any sort of dialectic. Incidentally, my son is teaching himself German, and he would find that interesting. He's in French immersion, but has this dream of one day moving to Germany. By the way, I enjoyed those Lewian. I like quite a bit of post-punk, and that Geisterfahrer reminds me a bit of Bauhaus, Gary Numan/ Tubeway Army, and the Cure. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 16:55
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 18:38
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^ No love for Herr König Krimson's "21. Jahrhundert Schizöid Mein"? Okay, that's really pushing it, but everytime I see I feel like I need to try to make a joke.I voted for COS' "Mein Maschine ist Schön". I love COS, and Babel is an album that doesn't get as much love as Postaeolian Train Robbery and Viva Boma, but I love all three of those albums. Incidentally, when I do polls with many options, don't feel the need to check out or know much music by the list. I'm fine if people vote only knowing one or checking out few options when I have long lists. The only albums I own on the list are the Pierrot Lunaire, the COS, A.R. & Machines, CzesŁaw Niemen (which I intended to embed) and Thierry Zaboitzeff, I think. I wish I'd written down the albums names, since I have music by quite a few more acts on this list, but now cant't remember if others are on albums I own (as for Deuter, I do love D)... That Zappa is plenty of fun, especially with that live version, I think. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 06:56
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 08:44
| I only know the word "mein" because I sold an Eloy cd to a guy on ebay from Germany who I initially believed only spoke German. This was before I knew about google translations so I spoke to a guy at my church(I think his name was Ludwig) who was fluent in German and he helped me come up with something in response to what he wrote to me. It turns out the guy I sold the cd to spoke perfect English. Lol. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 13:17
I'm glad you really appreciate it now. Even the lowly-rated Swiß Chalet has some value to me.
Funny anecdote. This is different, but I used to teach in Japan, and over here in Vancouver, BC I have been embarrassed when I would try to speak to people in Japanese and they would insist on responding back to me in English. In Japan I was popular with strangers wanting to practice their English with me. They'd come up to me, go out of their ways to direct me, invite me to bars, to bed sometimes to be honest, I liked that (being a stranger in a strange land has its advantages) How I miss those days.... I might say that I learnt of "mein" because of Hitler's "Mein Kampf (not a fan of it of course, but it's interesting from a historical perspective), but my parents who had lived in Germany for some years used German when they didn't want the kids to understand (in that way, and because of a good German friend, I picked up some rudimentary German when young). I did learn at a young age that it's better not to reference Mein Kampf when you meet a German, and even saying something like "Ich bin ein Berliner" is generally best not dropped when you meet Germans, unless perhaps you are discussing JFK. I am guilty of so many faux pas. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 13:55
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A "Berliner" actually is a German pastry with a sugar icing and a jelly filling. Here a picture:  So it is no wonder people don't like to be called that. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 14:06
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 14:06
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Oh, and this pastry is what Germans call an "Amerikaner" ("American").  ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 15:10
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^I'll eat 'em! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 12:26
"All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin, and therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words I am a German pastry" (not quite JFK).  It would be worse to say it to someone who is pudgy (I've heard overweight people called doughnuts). Since John F. Kennedy was born in Massachusetts, it might have been better to say, "Ich bin ein Boston Cream" for that famous speech. I think we, or maybe it was with Jean, had this discussion before, but whether that was a gaffe or not has been debated. As you have a keen interest in history as well as an interest in linguistics, here are some articles on it. https://www.thelocal.de/20130626/50515" rel="nofollow - https://www.thelocal.de/20130626/50515 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-does-everybody-think-jfk-said-im-jelly-donut-180963779/" rel="nofollow - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-does-everybody-think-jfk-said-im-jelly-donut-180963779/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/08/the-real-meaning-of-ich-bin-ein-berliner/309500/" rel="nofollow - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/08/the-real-meaning-of-ich-bin-ein-berliner/309500/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-hole-truth/" rel="nofollow - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-hole-truth/
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 13:19
American English is not that well defined and neither do they teach grammar in school. Here all lingo and this and that goes ... and it is one thing that really makes communication difficult, because no one really knows what anyone is saying. I have issues, for example, saying things somewhat in my Portuguese original language, which has 24 verb tenses, and I use the imperatives, it throws people off really bad. I could not vote on this stuff ... haven't heard most of it, though I have some of the stuff. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 17:16
Sensitivities are tiring at times... mention Mein Kampf night and day in my company and have fun declaring yourself a Berliner!
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 17:27
just imagine how funny it would have been had he said "Ich bin ein Amerikaner, und ich bin ein Berliner"
------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 13 2019 at 04:07
 Now that would have been truly deliciously laughable. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: June 13 2019 at 05:40
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I will just have a chow mein.Por favor. ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 13 2019 at 05:53
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^ Hands off, that chow is mein. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: July 02 2019 at 06:59
No problem.It's got too many umlauts on it anyway. :) In poll ,I take other. Klaus Mein(e) and Scorpions.  ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 02 2019 at 18:44
Not German, but born in Germany, I'd like to add Bernard Szajner's Visions of Dune inspired by Herbert, not Von Karajan ! I listen to that album a lot these days 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 02 2019 at 19:04
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Zarah Leander - Mein Leben für die Liebe, jawohl! ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: July 03 2019 at 01:29
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In defense of JFK: He hold his speech in Berlin the only town in Germany where the pastry Berliner is called Pfannkuchen instead. Of course everyewhere else in Germany a Pfannkuchen is a Pancake but in Berlin it's called a Eierkuchen. So JFK did everything right (I'm a Pfannkuchen :-) )
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