Starless& Bible Black vs Animals
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Topic: Starless& Bible Black vs Animals
Posted By: Argo2112
Subject: Starless& Bible Black vs Animals
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 12:45
Two great albums to choose from, Go!
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 12:47
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 13:53
Again, another close one, but I went with Animals this time as it is a favorite of mine from PF, where SaBB is great, but not among the greatest from KC
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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 14:06
Not a huge PF fan. They're never quite proggy enough for me, so Starless & B B gets my vote
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 14:28
Both equally so obviously I can't vote. :P
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 14:47
Starless...........never cared much for Animals, though it seems to make many here wet their pants.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 15:05
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 15:08
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 15:12
Animals. Not the slightest sign of contest.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 15:25
Animals by a long shot. Fracture is a fantastic song though.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 15:45
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 15:57
I don't like Animals. Guess which one got my vote...
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 19:31
Starless & Bible Black. I don't like Animals at all.
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 20:05
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 21:20
Animals very easily. I don't think that any Crimson album could beat that one on my apreciation.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 23:13
PF
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 23:15
PF never beats KC unless the PF album is Meddle and the KC album is one of the first 4.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 01:31
Animals on this one.
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Posted By: thwok
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 04:55
Not even a tough choice. Pink Floyd stopped innovating after Dark Side. It's about the same time Waters started taking over and the band turned to crap. ANIMALS is one of their most overrated imho.
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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 05:55
SBB...
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Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 07:17
Animals. One of the best from PF
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 11:27
Oink . .
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: July 17 2019 at 13:06
Animals for me
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 00:54
Animals.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 01:04
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 05:12
Animals by faaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 07:13
Starless and Bible Black for me. Animals exhibits too much anger, tension, and frustration within the band, about the music industry, and about the world in general. It was Roger Waters belly-aching about everything.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 09:31
Two great ones but I had to go with KC.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 10:40
wiz_d_kidd wrote:
Starless and Bible Black for me. Animals exhibits too much anger, tension, and frustration within the band, about the music industry, and about the world in general. It was Roger Waters belly-aching about everything.
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Couldn't agree more and Waters 'complained' his way to a huge bank account.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 11:39
Animals is my least-favorite Floyd album of the Rog era.
So, Starless on this one.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 18 2019 at 23:10
dr wu23 wrote:
wiz_d_kidd wrote:
Starless and Bible Black for me. Animals exhibits too much anger, tension, and frustration within the band, about the music industry, and about the world in general. It was Roger Waters belly-aching about everything.
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Couldn't agree more and Waters 'complained' his way to a huge bank account. |
Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player.
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: July 20 2019 at 08:19
iluvmarillion wrote:
Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player. |
Ringo Starr is worth more than Roger Waters which shows, by your logic, that an average drummer and mediocre songwriter is worth more than a good lyricist.
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: July 20 2019 at 09:02
Why not more love for Starless and Bible Black generally? For me it is the one and only KC album that captures the flavor and sense of their en mass group improvisations.
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: July 20 2019 at 10:18
HackettFan wrote:
Why not more love for Starless and Bible Black generally? For me it is the one and only KC album that captures the flavor and sense of their en mass group improvisations.
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I wonder that, too. From the great improv piece "We'll Let You Know" highlighting Wetton's bass play, to the confoundingly complex cross-picking of Fripp on "Fracture", there are so wonderful musical moments. One of my all time favorite albums.
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: July 21 2019 at 15:54
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 24 2019 at 01:23
wiz_d_kidd wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player. |
Ringo Starr is worth more than Roger Waters which shows, by your logic, that an average drummer and mediocre songwriter is worth more than a good lyricist.
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For starters, Ringo Starr is more than an average drummer and secondly, if Pete Best had kept his job with the Beatles, he'd be worth more than Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters put together today.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 07:52
Animals easily.
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Posted By: Howard the Duck
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 08:26
Definitely Starless - how could you not vote for Fracture!
Animals is one of my least favorite Floyd albums, aside from Sheep.
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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 13:17
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 13:22
iluvmarillion wrote:
Roger Waters is now worth twice as much as Dave Gilmour which shows that a good lyricist is worth more than a good guitar player. |
Waters has been touring the world for years now. Remember at the time of The Wall they were all close to broke. Then again what is the difference between 100 million or 200? 
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 14:18
Both are great, but I went with SBB. It has some of the most amazing work of the KC canon...."Fracture" being my favorite.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 15:15
Not even close, animals. Seriously, how could someone in the right mind vote starless
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 25 2019 at 13:54
I got into Starless' at the drop of a hat. Still can't say that about Animals. Such a let-down after the previous two.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 26 2019 at 14:16
Never cared for Animals....imo a classic example of an overrated lp. Starless for the win.
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Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: August 30 2019 at 03:04
I'm unable to vote in any polls for some reason. I was wondering whether it was because I had to get a new account.
Originally I was just 'Braka', but at some point a few months ago I got logged out, my password didn't work, and I never received an email when going through the lost password protocol. Hence 'Braka1'. I don't remember whether I had to go through a 'can't vote' period the first time around.
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 30 2019 at 04:03
Starless is crap apart from night watchman and Deceiver. The rest just filler
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Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: August 30 2019 at 06:58
dr prog wrote:
Starless is crap apart from night watchman and Deceiver. The rest just filler |
Well since I can't vote in this poll, I suppose I can at least give an opinion. 'Starless' is my favourite KC album after 'Court'. I agree it's a bit scattershot in terms of source material, but not in terms of quality. Also love 'Trio' even if David Cross - in both this and 'Night Watch' is leaning heavily on Vaughn Williams, e.g. 'The Lark Ascending'.
'Animals' used to be one of my favourite Floyd albums but I've grown less fond of it. Still it's a tough call between the two. I think if I could only have one, it'd be 'Starless'.
In hindsight I think 'Animals' is where Waters' political harangues (he's like a prog Jello Biafra) started to make Floyd seem like a backing band.
Incidentally I mostly agree with Waters' politics; I just don't find it as lyrically moving as his ruminations about mortality and life in general.
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